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Oct 22, 2018 09:06:54   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Just posted online: Ulster County, NY is banning the use of plastic bags by stores as of July 15, 2019. Customers should supply their own bags or pay five cents for paper. Smart move.

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Oct 22, 2018 09:12:45   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Not really as that means more trees will need to be cut down to supply the paper and trees remove CO2 from the air... Better to use reusable fabric bags... Our local Aldi stores sell bags if needed and they set out (as does Sam's) the empty boxes that the goods come in for people to reuse...
jerryc41 wrote:
Just posted online: Ulster County, NY is banning the use of plastic bags by stores as of July 15, 2019. Customers should supply their own bags or pay five cents for paper. Smart move.

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Oct 22, 2018 09:20:28   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
Thanks for the warning

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Oct 22, 2018 09:38:12   #
Chris F. Loc: San Francisco
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Just posted online: Ulster County, NY is banning the use of plastic bags by stores as of July 15, 2019. Customers should supply their own bags or pay five cents for paper. Smart move.


Hi Jerry, it’s not bad once you get used to it and remember to bring your cloth bags. We have a large assortment that we keep in our cars. Much of the Bay Area and of course San Francisco have been doing this for many years now.

Chris

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Oct 22, 2018 09:54:28   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
Actually we keep insulated bags in the cars most of the time to get cold stuff home, and quite often heavier bags for carting things in to the house as the plastic bags are kind of weak, now the paper bags we get around here are kind of prone to tearing, we have gotten a lot of cloth / heavy plastic shopping bags at the Photo Show and use them, advertise a lot of camera stores and Canon, Nikon bags don't work as well.

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Oct 22, 2018 10:42:16   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
We do the same with the insulated bags... I have a lot of reusable Hospital totes as well...
bobmcculloch wrote:
Actually we keep insulated bags in the cars most of the time to get cold stuff home, and quite often heavier bags for carting things in to the house as the plastic bags are kind of weak, now the paper bags we get around here are kind of prone to tearing, we have gotten a lot of cloth / heavy plastic shopping bags at the Photo Show and use them, advertise a lot of camera stores and Canon, Nikon bags don't work as well.

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Oct 22, 2018 10:43:30   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Not really as that means more trees will need to be cut down to supply the paper and trees remove CO2 from the air... Better to use reusable fabric bags... Our local Aldi stores sell bags if needed and they set out (as does Sam's) the empty boxes that the goods come in for people to reuse...


I like Aldi, and I like those durable bags they sell. I keep them in the car.

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Oct 22, 2018 10:45:02   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
A lot of restaurants around here have gone back to the old style paper straws as well...

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Oct 22, 2018 11:46:02   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
The real problem is that we treat everything as disposable, it's not just shopping bags, between new features on things and the cost of repairs it doesn't pay to repair things, take proper care of your things and you get bypassed by technology, it's cheaper to buy a new microwave than to fix one that does not work, same with vacuum cleaners, I could think of a couple of other things in a few minutes too.

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Oct 22, 2018 11:48:01   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Look at cameras... Same thing. Older film rigs are still usable decades later. Not so much for Digital rigs...
bobmcculloch wrote:
The real problem is that we treat everything as disposable, it's not just shopping bags, between new features on things and the cost of repairs it doesn't pay to repair things, take proper care of your things and you get bypassed by technology, it's cheaper to buy a new microwave than to fix one that does not work, same with vacuum cleaners, I could think of a couple of other things in a few minutes too.

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Oct 22, 2018 11:50:52   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Look at cameras... Same thing. Older film rigs are still usable decades later. Not so much for Digital rigs...


Older digital still works but technology moves and we want the NEW stuff, even if we don't need it, it's called GAS, I fight it all the time.

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Oct 22, 2018 11:55:37   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Yeah, my older (D300) DSLR is still fine & my son uses my old D70s I gave him, but my old Nikon F2 (which is a lot older) still works...I doubt that this digital stuff will last that long. My first digital point & shoot has already bit the dust...
bobmcculloch wrote:
Older digital still works but technology moves and we want the NEW stuff, even if we don't need it, it's called GAS, I fight it all the time.

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Oct 22, 2018 13:50:08   #
G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK
 
It is not the recycling of plastic that is the problem - it is the destruction of plastic as waste that is the problem.

You will have seen the amount of plastic on beaches and floating in the oceans on TV. You will have read about the amount of micro plastic in food and fish etc.

Why does perishable goods like sugar , flour, some margarine etc come in paper wrapping yet hardware like screws and nails comes in plastic blister packs you cannot open?

We should ban the unnecessary use of plastic rather than fiddle about over having to pay for a bag to carry goods from a shop.

We should demand a 'refundable deposit', be put on by retailers, on all packaging that serves no purpose other than to make it easy/consistent to handle and machine packable.

Maybe then the kids could earn some pocket money 'picking it up' and taking it back to the shop - like we could as kids.

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Oct 22, 2018 17:03:31   #
Beowulf Loc: Aquidneck Island, RI
 
I have read a couple of handy hint articles that remind users of reusable cloth shopping bags to launder them frequently, as there may be cross contamination from foodstuffs. Think in terms of raw produce, fresh meat liquids, etc.

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Oct 22, 2018 17:15:45   #
Soul Dr. Loc: Beautiful Shenandoah Valley
 
Beowulf wrote:
I have read a couple of handy hint articles that remind users of reusable cloth shopping bags to launder them frequently, as there may be cross contamination from foodstuffs. Think in terms of raw produce, fresh meat liquids, etc.


Not only that, these bags are also a haven for bacteria. They have been tested to prove this.

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