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Oct 19, 2018 20:00:40   #
JimBart Loc: Western Michigan
 
I am currently contemplating purchasing a Tamron/Sigma 150 - 600 telephoto lens to use along with my Sigma 28 - 300mm 3.5-6.3D lens (from film Nikon 6006 camera); a Nikon 55-300 4.5-6.3 GED kit lens and a Nikon 18 -140 3.5-5.6 GED kit lens on a Nikon D7100.
Discussions with the local Camera shop personnel are leading me to believe that a 2X or 4X extender when placed on the current lenses and used with the current camera would give me a much better range, more versatility, at no change in picture quality. They also mentioned that the cost would be significantly much cheaper.
I was always led to believe that a longer telephoto lens is better than using extenders and that the quality of picture is significantly better.
I don't know who or what to believe anymore and would like some help as this is my last camera but I would like more reach but with good pictures.
Can anyone be of assistance and help me out?
Thanks a bunch

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Oct 19, 2018 20:04:46   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Extenders will not function on all lenses. Did the camera shop personnel mention that?

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Oct 19, 2018 20:13:05   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
I use the 1.4 and the 2x extenders on my 70-200. The 1.4 seems just bit soft at times, barely noticeable. The 2x is a bit softer. I keep the 1.4 extender on the lens about 95 percent of the time. I am pleased with both. If you can afford the telephoto get it plus the extender for the telephoto.

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Oct 19, 2018 20:15:57   #
sloscheider Loc: Minnesota
 
I’ve seen some great images come from a friend using a 2x and an 80-210 2.8 she looses two stops of light though so can’t always use it and maintain a reasonable ISO

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Oct 19, 2018 21:11:22   #
starlifter Loc: Towson, MD
 
I would go no larger than a 1.4 convertor and with the same name as the lens. I have a no name 2x convertor and am less than excited with the results I get. I have a sigma 150-600C which gives great results. I am reluctant to use The no name convertor on that as it may jepordize the electonics the sigma.

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Oct 19, 2018 22:26:12   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
JimBart wrote:
I am currently contemplating purchasing a Tamron/Sigma 150 - 600 telephoto lens to use along with my Sigma 28 - 300mm 3.5-6.3D lens (from film Nikon 6006 camera); a Nikon 55-300 4.5-6.3 GED kit lens and a Nikon 18 -140 3.5-5.6 GED kit lens on a Nikon D7100.
Discussions with the local Camera shop personnel are leading me to believe that a 2X or 4X extender when placed on the current lenses and used with the current camera would give me a much better range, more versatility, at no change in picture quality. They also mentioned that the cost would be significantly much cheaper.
I was always led to believe that a longer telephoto lens is better than using extenders and that the quality of picture is significantly better.
I don't know who or what to believe anymore and would like some help as this is my last camera but I would like more reach but with good pictures.
Can anyone be of assistance and help me out?
Thanks a bunch
I am currently contemplating purchasing a Tamron/S... (show quote)

You should check your camera manual for the minimum aperture your camera can retain auto focus. With a D7100, you're probably going to be disappointed trying to extend a lens that has an aperture smaller than f/5.6 before adding an extender. If your camera shop is trying to help, take your camera down there and test their ideas before buying anything. Trying renting so you can practice and analyze the image results on your computer, keeping in mind what your camera manual says about auto focus and f/5.6.

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Oct 19, 2018 23:03:31   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
JimBart wrote:
I am currently contemplating purchasing a Tamron/Sigma 150 - 600 telephoto lens to use along with my Sigma 28 - 300mm 3.5-6.3D lens (from film Nikon 6006 camera); a Nikon 55-300 4.5-6.3 GED kit lens and a Nikon 18 -140 3.5-5.6 GED kit lens on a Nikon D7100.
Discussions with the local Camera shop personnel are leading me to believe that a 2X or 4X extender when placed on the current lenses and used with the current camera would give me a much better range, more versatility, at no change in picture quality. They also mentioned that the cost would be significantly much cheaper.
I was always led to believe that a longer telephoto lens is better than using extenders and that the quality of picture is significantly better.
I don't know who or what to believe anymore and would like some help as this is my last camera but I would like more reach but with good pictures.
Can anyone be of assistance and help me out?
Thanks a bunch
I am currently contemplating purchasing a Tamron/S... (show quote)


I would find another shop to buy your gear from and get advice.

There is no 4X extender, and they are TELE extenders, intended to work on relatively fast telephoto lenses, and a few select short range zooms, like the 70-200 and the 200-400. Some third party lens mfgrs make a 1.4 for their 150-600, but results are not amazing. The Tamron G2 and the Sigma Sport are quite sharp, but when your max aperture is only F6.3, adding a 1.4X TC will make that F9 or so - and many cameras have a problem autofocusing, and if they do manage to autofocus at all, the lens will hunt in all but the brightest, most contrasty light.

There are only a few ciircumstances where a teleconverter added to a lens provides excellent results - with the Nikkor 200mm F2, Nikkor 400mm F2.8, 300mm F2.8 and the new Nikkor 70-200 F2.8 FL - these are amazingly sharp and fast lenses and they work well with 1.4x and in some cases 1.7x and 2.0x teleconverters.

You are almost always better off with a lens that is not used with a TC.

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Oct 20, 2018 06:45:45   #
sergio
 
I have no doubt that a telezoom will be better. An extender makes focusing harder and instead of F.6.3 your lens will become F.7 -8. When I do birds I am using the Tamron 150-600 sometime with a 1.4 extender. The mentioning of a 4x extender makes me believe that somebody is cheating.

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Oct 20, 2018 07:12:49   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
My reaction to your post is that it is time to find another camera store...


JimBart wrote:
I am currently contemplating purchasing a Tamron/Sigma 150 - 600 telephoto lens to use along with my Sigma 28 - 300mm 3.5-6.3D lens (from film Nikon 6006 camera); a Nikon 55-300 4.5-6.3 GED kit lens and a Nikon 18 -140 3.5-5.6 GED kit lens on a Nikon D7100.
Discussions with the local Camera shop personnel are leading me to believe that a 2X or 4X extender when placed on the current lenses and used with the current camera would give me a much better range, more versatility, at no change in picture quality. They also mentioned that the cost would be significantly much cheaper.
I was always led to believe that a longer telephoto lens is better than using extenders and that the quality of picture is significantly better.
I don't know who or what to believe anymore and would like some help as this is my last camera but I would like more reach but with good pictures.
Can anyone be of assistance and help me out?
Thanks a bunch
I am currently contemplating purchasing a Tamron/S... (show quote)

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Oct 20, 2018 07:26:29   #
Largobob
 
If I received advice like that, I would search for another camera store.

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Oct 20, 2018 07:36:37   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
I agree with the negative comments: they are good advice. Unless you are photographic static objects, you will get very frustrated trying to focus.

However, another frustrating thing about using the Sigma or Tamron 150-600 is this. These lenses are likely to be much sharper than what you already have. In my case, that sharpness eventually led me to replace those kit lenses with good glass. I appreciate the speed and sharpness of the better lenses. I have the Sigma C version and though slightly less sharp than the S, it is a terrific lens. One might quibble about the sharpness but you cannot argue about the difference in weight.

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Oct 20, 2018 07:46:54   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Most decisions like this are really about money. You know a new lens would be better than sticking a "magnifying glass" between the camera and your lens, but is it worth spending $800 or more? Chances are, if you buy the lens, you won't regret not getting the TC.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/News/News-Post.aspx?News=15236
http://www.kruger-2-kalahari.com/tamron-vs-sigma-150-600.html
http://photo.net/equipment/150-600_lenses
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/latest/articles/tamron-vs-sigma-150-600mm-the-7-key-differences-48183
https://photographylife.com/nikon-200-500mm-vs-tamron-150-600mm-vs-sigma-150-600mm-c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLXocpM5xno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_msTFAmwWY

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Oct 20, 2018 08:07:02   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
JimBart wrote:
I am currently contemplating purchasing a Tamron/Sigma 150 - 600 telephoto lens to use along with my Sigma 28 - 300mm 3.5-6.3D lens (from film Nikon 6006 camera); a Nikon 55-300 4.5-6.3 GED kit lens and a Nikon 18 -140 3.5-5.6 GED kit lens on a Nikon D7100.
Discussions with the local Camera shop personnel are leading me to believe that a 2X or 4X extender when placed on the current lenses and used with the current camera would give me a much better range, more versatility, at no change in picture quality. They also mentioned that the cost would be significantly much cheaper.
I was always led to believe that a longer telephoto lens is better than using extenders and that the quality of picture is significantly better.
I don't know who or what to believe anymore and would like some help as this is my last camera but I would like more reach but with good pictures.
Can anyone be of assistance and help me out?
Thanks a bunch
I am currently contemplating purchasing a Tamron/S... (show quote)


There has not been an extender made that IMPROVES image quality. In fact, just the opposite happens. I would like to suggest you seriously consider one of the least expensive, BEST telephoto's on the market today, the Nikon 200-500 f5.6. I have this lens and it is very, very good. Please read the reviews of this lens and many many of the folks here at UHH have it and like it a lot. I sold my 200-400 f4 and 300 2.8 after I saw what I was getting with this lens. It is outstanding. Please give it a look.

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Oct 20, 2018 08:21:29   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
billnikon wrote:
There has not been an extender made that IMPROVES image quality. In fact, just the opposite happens. I would like to suggest you seriously consider one of the least expensive, BEST telephoto's on the market today, the Nikon 200-500 f5.6. I have this lens and it is very, very good. Please read the reviews of this lens and many many of the folks here at UHH have it and like it a lot. I sold my 200-400 f4 and 300 2.8 after I saw what I was getting with this lens. It is outstanding. Please give it a look.
There has not been an extender made that IMPROVES ... (show quote)


Agree!

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Oct 20, 2018 09:25:25   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
JimBart wrote:
I am currently contemplating purchasing a Tamron/Sigma 150 - 600 telephoto lens to use along with my Sigma 28 - 300mm 3.5-6.3D lens (from film Nikon 6006 camera); a Nikon 55-300 4.5-6.3 GED kit lens and a Nikon 18 -140 3.5-5.6 GED kit lens on a Nikon D7100.
Discussions with the local Camera shop personnel are leading me to believe that a 2X or 4X extender when placed on the current lenses and used with the current camera would give me a much better range, more versatility, at no change in picture quality. They also mentioned that the cost would be significantly much cheaper.
I was always led to believe that a longer telephoto lens is better than using extenders and that the quality of picture is significantly better.
I don't know who or what to believe anymore and would like some help as this is my last camera but I would like more reach but with good pictures.
Can anyone be of assistance and help me out?
Thanks a bunch
I am currently contemplating purchasing a Tamron/S... (show quote)


A bigger LENS is what you seek. I suggest the Nikon 200-500 over others for Nikon shooters. The BIG question is:are you ready and able to carry and manage such a lens ??

If money matters, I would suggest the older/used Sigma 100-300 f4 with a 1.4X TC - a GREAT combo !

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