Hard Drive Statistics: Statistics from BackBlaze, based on 97,600 drives. https://www.backblaze.com/blog/2018-hard-drive-failire-rates/...

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Statistics from BackBlaze, based on 97,600 drives.

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/2018-hard-drive-failire-rates/

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

That's one of the reasons I use them for remote backup. They seem to have an intent interest in hardware.
--Bob

jerryc41 wrote:

Statistics from BackBlaze, based on 97,600 drives.

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/2018-hard-drive-failire-rates/

RatGMAN Loc: SE Pennsylvania

rmalarz wrote:

That's one of the reasons I use them for remote backup. They seem to have an intent interest in hardware.
--Bob

Would you buy a used 4TB HGST from a reputable source?

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

No, but what has that got to do with the subject at hand?

BTW, I did purchase 3 brand new 2TB HGST drives and am quite pleased with them. That decision was based on Back Blazes assessment of drives.
--Bob

RatGMAN wrote:

Would you buy a used 4TB HGST from a reputable source?

RatGMAN Loc: SE Pennsylvania

rmalarz wrote:

No, but what has that got to do with the subject at hand?

BTW, I did purchase 3 brand new 2TB HGST drives and am quite pleased with them. That decision was based on Back Blazes assessment of drives.
--Bob

What I think it has to do with the subject at hand is - the HGST drives are the best performing in the tests. If they cleaned on of those drives and offered it to you a discount you wouldn't buy it from them?

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

As I wrote earlier, No.

However, I'm still puzzled by your question.
--Bob

RatGMAN wrote:

What I think it has to do with the subject at hand is - the HGST drives are the best performing in the tests. If they cleaned on of those drives and offered it to you a discount you wouldn't buy it from them?

RatGMAN Loc: SE Pennsylvania

rmalarz wrote:

As I wrote earlier, No.

However, I'm still puzzled by your question.
--Bob

That makes us even - I'm puzzled by your answer. Have you never purchased anything used - home, car, camera, lens, tripod, cooking equipment, computer, tablet? Anything? I have, and I've rarely been disappointed with the decision and, with the exception of one thing I can recall, a baseball bat that my son did not like, I'd do it all again. I think I've saved significant dollars over buying new for those items.

Why your aversion?

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

I've purchased quite a few things that were used. My two most recent cameras were used. Several before that were used. Hard drives are a different item. I don't buy used hard drives. Too much risk of failures. Sure a new one can fail right out of the box. But that is a rarity. If a car, camera, computer fail, that's one thing. If a hard drive fails, that's loss of data, applications, and OS.

I have one drive that is years old and telling me it's having problems. A new drive is in the order queue. Drives are along the lines of buying second hand underwear. Just not something I care to do.
--Bob

RatGMAN wrote:

That makes us even - I'm puzzled by your answer. Have you never purchased anything used - home, car, camera, lens, tripod, cooking equipment, computer, tablet? Anything? I have, and I've rarely been disappointed with the decision and, with the exception of one thing I can recall, a baseball bat that my son did not like, I'd do it all again. I think I've saved significant dollars over buying new for those items.

Why your aversion?

SonyBug

RatGMAN wrote:

What I think it has to do with the subject at hand is - the HGST drives are the best performing in the tests. If they cleaned on of those drives and offered it to you a discount you wouldn't buy it from them?

The zero failure of the HGST drives was only after 9 (that is "nine") days of use. As the report says, let's wait to see what happens after time!

NewBEE161 Loc: Olney, Maryland

Jerry, thanks for the article!

df61743 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX

I've had two 10TB HGST Deskstar drives in RAID1 configuration for about 6 months, in a Synology DS418 NAS. So far, flawless operation.

For what it's worth, HGST is a Western Digital brand. B&H is showing all their HGST Deskstar drives as being discontinued and no longer available. Does anyone know why?

TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA

df61743 wrote:

I've had two 10TB HGST Deskstar drives in RAID1 configuration for about 6 months, in a Synology DS418 NAS. So far, flawless operation.

For what it's worth, HGST is a Western Digital brand. B&H is showing all their HGST Deskstar drives as being discontinued and no longer available. Does anyone know why?

Originally, HGST, Inc. was a merger of HDD technologies of IBM and Hitachi. It was eventually bought by WD. An agreement with China required that HGST and WD were to be separately branded. That agreement has expired so there is no longer a reason to continue the separate branding.

df61743 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX

TheShoe wrote:

Originally, HGST, Inc. was a merger of HDD technologies of IBM and Hitachi. It was eventually bought by WD. An agreement with China required that HGST and WD were to be separately branded. That agreement has expired so there is no longer a reason to continue the separate branding.

Yeah, I did a little snooping and had found that info. It looks like WD is consolidating their products to help reduce confusion. It looks like WD Gold drives are being phased out by the end of 2018 as well. The WD choice now, that would replace the HGST drive, appears to be the Red Pro.

Dick

rcarol

rmalarz wrote:

I've purchased quite a few things that were used. ... (show quote)

To add to Bob's comments, there is no way of knowing what abuse a used hard drive may have had. With cameras and lenses, abuse will show up as wear and tear. Not necessarily so with a hard drive. It may have been in an environment that was not properly ventilated. It may have been mishandled or dropped.