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Oct 15, 2018 11:24:53   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
Currently need to upgrade my ASUS laptop computer and older Samsung monitor since they're no longer capable/processing or handing the large hi-res files in PP....thinking video card might be the limiting factor or culprit. Asking Hoggers what are the minimum requirements in a computer I would need for PP; primarily RAM, a Video Card, Integrated, non-integrated video cards? An all in one or desktop? If I purchase a base PC, CHG CANON has already recommended the Dell - UltraSharp U2415 24" IPS LED HD Monitor which will save $$ for other resources. Will still keep the ASUS laptop for traveling and Social Media use, just need something more capable.

I won't mention I get little help from the bots at Best Buy or any other local Big Box store when asking about specs.....oops, yes I will mention it.

I use older copies of stand alone Adobe Lightroom and PS Elements (15) and Luminar. This is Not required for professional use. Thanks and appreciate any comments and/or recommendations.

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Oct 15, 2018 12:00:38   #
Ratskinner Loc: Copalis Beach WA
 
I recently purchased a ViewSonic 28" monitor for $ 180.00 from Amazon. 5 years insurance for less than $6.00. I have used it every
day since 12/2017 with outstanding results. The colors are vibrant and accurate. Great for viewing before printing.

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Oct 15, 2018 12:56:28   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
Ratskinner wrote:
I recently purchased a ViewSonic 28" monitor for $ 180.00 from Amazon. 5 years insurance for less than $6.00. I have used it every
day since 12/2017 with outstanding results. The colors are vibrant and accurate. Great for viewing before printing.


Thanks Ratskinner, will definitely look into that

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Oct 15, 2018 13:10:20   #
G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK
 
The minimum recommended spec for the software you use will be on their respective websites.
If you do not need the computer to 'do' massive runs of work (batch processing etc) then having more hardware than necessary only makes sense to those that like faster cars and live in urban areas. (go make a cup of tea instead)
I cannot see the difference between my old PC with a graphics card and my new pc with 'on board' graphics. I do not Game....so refresh rate is not an issue.

Remember to research non photographic software that you use also....Some programme's are more resource needy than others.

Have fun

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Oct 15, 2018 13:21:33   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
G Brown wrote:
The minimum recommended spec for the software you use will be on their respective websites.
If you do not need the computer to 'do' massive runs of work (batch processing etc) then having more hardware than necessary only makes sense to those that like faster cars and live in urban areas. (go make a cup of tea instead)
I cannot see the difference between my old PC with a graphics card and my new pc with 'on board' graphics. I do not Game....so refresh rate is not an issue.

Remember to research non photographic software that you use also....Some programme's are more resource needy than others.

Have fun
The minimum recommended spec for the software you ... (show quote)


I keep getting more & more error codes on my Samsung monitor and it appears my 'integrated' graphic card is not up to the task for the PP software, and since its an older ASUS 13" laptop and maxed out, I most likely need to upgrade to a stand alone and take this one out of PP service. I don't game at all....Cheers

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Oct 15, 2018 13:51:28   #
Photocraig
 
Hi Blaster,
I'm a rudimentary Lightroom and rare PhotoShop user. I shoot RAW and use LR sliders, adjust White Balance, Brightness. Whites and Blacks and dehaze. I crop, darken edges a little and apply lens corrections, and alignment tools to "square up" any tilting my already tilted brain applies to my captures. I didn't even mention PhotoShop. I get along nicely with an i5 Processor PC with 12 MB Memory and 1 TB disk drive--$600 at COSTCO 2 years ago. My monitor is a 24" ips Asus Monitor--$139 at Amazon. Works for me. I'm in the market for a laptop which I would want to be an i5 processor, 8-16MB Memory and 500-Gb-1 TB disk. In my, alleged workflow, I doubt I'd be calling on the laptop to do much PP, beyond what I already do.
C

The thing to remember is that there is a continual feature/function and sloppy coding growth, as in bloat, in software development. As Applications evolve they grow in size and capability---and add trivialities that make the insider users and power users smile and drool. While you or I may not stress an app doesn't mean that we can stay on a barebones platform because the extra weight of the nice to have luxury features that the front line users think of as "must haves" add weight that requires systems resources just to run. That's another way of saying while I might just need an i3 or i5, I'll probably look to find an affordable i7 processor when I replace my desktop (since by then everybody will be using i9's) just because our friendly software vendors will fill their wares with so much bloat, that can't be configured OUT, that I'll need all the juice I can muster just to run the basic app, even though I don't tax it too much.

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Oct 15, 2018 14:47:01   #
PeterBergh
 
G Brown wrote:
The minimum recommended spec for the software you use will be on their respective websites. ...


Remember that the minimum recommended configuration is just that: minimum. If you want your software to run well, you need to have a configuration that's considerably more powerful than the minimum. Of course, how much more powerful depends on the software. A good rule of thumb is to double the minimum; e.g., if the minimum RAM is 4 MB, you should have at least 8 MB and, preferably, 16 MB.

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Oct 15, 2018 20:12:42   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
PeterBergh wrote:
Remember that the minimum recommended configuration is just that: minimum. If you want your software to run well, you need to have a configuration that's considerably more powerful than the minimum. Of course, how much more powerful depends on the software. A good rule of thumb is to double the minimum; e.g., if the minimum RAM is 4 MB, you should have at least 8 MB and, preferably, 16 MB.


So true, Maximum RAM seems to be the key....thanks

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Oct 15, 2018 20:16:21   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
Photocraig wrote:
Hi Blaster,
I'm a rudimentary Lightroom and rare PhotoShop user. I shoot RAW and use LR sliders, adjust White Balance, Brightness. Whites and Blacks and dehaze. I crop, darken edges a little and apply lens corrections, and alignment tools to "square up" any tilting my already tilted brain applies to my captures. I didn't even mention PhotoShop. I get along nicely with an i5 Processor PC with 12 MB Memory and 1 TB disk drive--$600 at COSTCO 2 years ago. My monitor is a 24" ips Asus Monitor--$139 at Amazon. Works for me. I'm in the market for a laptop which I would want to be an i5 processor, 8-16MB Memory and 500-Gb-1 TB disk. In my, alleged workflow, I doubt I'd be calling on the laptop to do much PP, beyond what I already do.
C

The thing to remember is that there is a continual feature/function and sloppy coding growth, as in bloat, in software development. As Applications evolve they grow in size and capability---and add trivialities that make the insider users and power users smile and drool. While you or I may not stress an app doesn't mean that we can stay on a barebones platform because the extra weight of the nice to have luxury features that the front line users think of as "must haves" add weight that requires systems resources just to run. That's another way of saying while I might just need an i3 or i5, I'll probably look to find an affordable i7 processor when I replace my desktop (since by then everybody will be using i9's) just because our friendly software vendors will fill their wares with so much bloat, that can't be configured OUT, that I'll need all the juice I can muster just to run the basic app, even though I don't tax it too much.
Hi Blaster, br I'm a rudimentary Lightroom and rar... (show quote)


Bloat? Of course, how could software companies stay in business if not for upgrades and bloat.....This will be strictly for photo processing not used in any other capacity for other related requirements and I plan on keeping software to a minimum....thanks Photocraig

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Oct 15, 2018 20:17:03   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
G Brown wrote:
The minimum recommended spec for the software you use will be on their respective websites.
If you do not need the computer to 'do' massive runs of work (batch processing etc) then having more hardware than necessary only makes sense to those that like faster cars and live in urban areas. (go make a cup of tea instead)
I cannot see the difference between my old PC with a graphics card and my new pc with 'on board' graphics. I do not Game....so refresh rate is not an issue.

Remember to research non photographic software that you use also....Some programme's are more resource needy than others.

Have fun
The minimum recommended spec for the software you ... (show quote)


Computers and me are not what you would call 'Fun'....

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Oct 16, 2018 08:50:22   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Laptops for photo processing -
https://makeawebsitehub.com/best-laptops-for-photo-editing/
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/167185-best-laptops-for-photo-editing
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2017/sep/07/which-is-the-best-laptop-for-photo-editing
http://www.techradar.com/news/photography-video-capture/cameras/best-laptops-for-image-editing-2016-1329234
https://laptopunderbudget.com/best-laptops-for-photo-editing/

Processor -
http://gizmodo.com/dont-waste-money-on-intels-top-processor-1791426602
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2404674,00.asp
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/intel-core-i5-vs-i7/
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/intel-core-i9-vs-i7-vs-i5-cpu/
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/intel-core-i5-vs-i7/
http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/core-i5-vs-i7
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/210703-intel-core-i5-vs-core-i7-which-processor-should-you-buy

Memory -
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/how-much-ram-does-your-p
c-need-probably-less-than-you-think/
http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-much-ram-does-your-pc-need/

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Oct 16, 2018 09:12:29   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 


Thanks Jerry, really appreciate the links, will be using them. Also guessing most of the newer graphics cards today have the minimum requirements to handle the PP programs such as Adobe and others where stand alone or integrated

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Oct 16, 2018 20:07:25   #
david vt Loc: Vermont
 
There have been 50 threads on this in the last 6 or so months. Lots of good discussion. Suggest you do a search as it may help with lots of the details

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Oct 16, 2018 20:13:41   #
azi Loc: Columbia, Marylamd
 
How much RAM do you have? You should have at least 8g and even better 16g. I have a rather elderly Asus Zenbook but it does have 16g RAM along with a third generation i7 processor. For photo/video I plug an Asus 28 inch monitor. I run the Adobe pro web suite and have never had any trouble with photoshop or my video and sound processors. I suspect you might need more RAM

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Oct 16, 2018 20:45:12   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
azi wrote:
How much RAM do you have? You should have at least 8g and even better 16g. I have a rather elderly Asus Zenbook but it does have 16g RAM along with a third generation i7 processor. For photo/video I plug an Asus 28 inch monitor. I run the Adobe pro web suite and have never had any trouble with photoshop or my video and sound processors. I suspect you might need more RAM


Maxed put at 8G on Ram on the MB....I thought about buying a used Gamer (ASUS or ACER) with 16G of Ram. Or just purchase a PC Box with i7 & the appropriate RAM and graphics card. As I said before it will be strictly used for photos, processed primarily at home while my ASUS laptop will still be my travel computer, so light. Thanks azi, appreciate the comments/recommendations....Cheers

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