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Oct 11, 2018 17:06:28   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Actually
ISO is an acronym: International Standards Organization it replaced ASA (American Standards Association)
Both are simply reflecting the organisation name that creates standards. They are not limited to photography (Just in case)
ISO ### (as a photographic standard - sensitivity to light) today is a bit of a joke but nevermind that.


I knew you'd jump in ... with the wrong answer. It's actually the name they chose for the organization. The acronym would have been IOS. But most folks probably think the same as you.

"Because 'International Organization for Standardization' would have different acronyms in different languages (IOS in English, OIN in French for Organisation internationale de normalisation), our founders decided to give it the short form ISO. ISO is derived from the Greek isos, meaning equal. Whatever the country, whatever the language, we are always ISO.

https://www.iso.org/home.html

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Oct 11, 2018 17:12:22   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Bill_de wrote:
"Because 'International Organization for Standardization' would have different acronyms in different languages (IOS in English, OIN in French for Organisation internationale de normalisation), our founders decided to give it the short form ISO. ISO is derived from the Greek isos, meaning equal. Whatever the country, whatever the language, we are always ISO.--
I remember this from another main forum topic awhile back. Of course I couldn't find it using our search function. Did you know that only one page of search results is shown, regardless of how many topics may fit? I asked Admin about it; he is aware

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Oct 11, 2018 17:23:21   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I remember this from another main forum topic awhile back. Of course I couldn't find it using our search function. Did you know that only one page of search results is shown, regardless of how many topics may fit? I asked Admin about it; he is aware


I remember looking it up many years ago after a conversation {with live people, not on the net}about America losing some of it's prestige. Somebody brought up the change from ASA to Iso, but nobody knew what it was.

I never got more than a page when searching what should have many results. I guessed it was a limit, but wasn't sure.

Luckily we are tough and can work through it.

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Oct 11, 2018 17:32:21   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Bill_de wrote:
Luckily we are tough and can work through it.
Ah ha, one benefit of dealing with trolls!

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Oct 11, 2018 19:02:43   #
SFarchitect
 
So as long as we diverge into grammar -- is "news" singular or plural? -- "Are there any news today?"

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Oct 11, 2018 19:07:00   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
SFarchitect wrote:
So as long as we diverge into grammar -- is "news" singular or plural? -- "Are there any news today?"
From 2012, so maybe has changed:

News is the aggregate of all the reports of the day; therefore it's uncountable, singular. Merriam-Webster online describes the word as “noun plural but singular in construction.” So it takes verbs in singular form: Is there any news?

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Oct 11, 2018 19:11:51   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I remember this from another main forum topic awhile back. Of course I couldn't find it using our search function. Did you know that only one page of search results is shown, regardless of how many topics may fit? I asked Admin about it; he is aware


Oh goody.

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Oct 11, 2018 19:21:31   #
WJShaheen Loc: Gold Canyon, AZ
 
SFarchitect wrote:
So as long as we diverge into grammar -- is "news" singular or plural? -- "Are there any news today?"


The data say "yes". 😁

Bill

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Oct 11, 2018 19:40:26   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
jerryc41 wrote:
"Raw" is not an acronym, and it's not a backronym, so there's no reason to capitalize every letter. Would you ask someone if he wants his carrots cooked or RAW?

From Word-A-Day -
In a backronym, an expansion is invented to treat an existing word as an acronym. For example, some believe that the word NEWS is an acronym for North, East, West, and South. In reality, the word is coined from “new” as in: What’s new?
When naming something, sometimes a suitable name is chosen and then an acronym is retrofitted on top of it: USA PATRIOT Act (Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism). The clunkiness of the expansion is a quick giveaway. How about forming a backronym for ACRONYM itself: A Contrived Result Of Nomenclature Yielding Mechanism?
Often, backronyms serve a useful purpose as mnemonics.
"Raw" is not an acronym, and it's not a ... (show quote)


In computer science "raw data" refers to unprocessed data straight from the source, hence it is "raw" like uncooked meat. Analogous to an unprocessed roll of film, RAW formatted files are proprietary to each camera maker.....So if someone says I shoot "RAW" - do they mean NEF? CRW? ORF? I guess those don't sound as sexy as "RAW"....

Canon CRW file format (CRW), is written in Camera Image File Format (CIFF), which is an original RAW format used in some of the early Canon cameras. Currently, Canon uses two different kinds of RAW formats: .CRW and .CR2. Some of the recent Canon camera models produce CR2 format instead of CRW files.

Exclusive to Nikon cameras, the NEF is Nikon's RAW file format. RAW image files, sometimes referred to as digital negatives, contain all the image information captured by the camera's sensor, along with the image's metadata (the camera's identification and its settings, the lens used and other information).

The ORF file format is a raw image format used in Olympus digital cameras. Like all other raw formats, this one contains image information rendered directly by a camera's sensor. ORF files feature so called headers that present image characteristics, such as saturation, color temperature, contrast, etc.

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Oct 11, 2018 20:26:06   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
It does describe a file type. Much like GIF or JPEG it is used to describe a particular type of file. By convention you don't see Jpeg or Gif, at least not often. Sometimes they are written as .jpeg or .gif but almost never with the first letter capitalized. I believe that's where the form of usage originated.

Actually in my computer system, using Canon file types, I have .CR2 and .JPG files. There are no .RAW files.

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Oct 11, 2018 20:35:46   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
dsmeltz wrote:
People capitalize it due to its evolved use as a term of art. As a term of art it is RAW. People started capitalizing it and it stuck. So now it is RAW. Just like now "among/between" are synonyms "affect/impact" are both verbs, etc... The tide of the great unwashed being given access to writing implements continues to roll over us...


Ah, the great unwashed (Attributed by many to Edmund Burke, the first published use of the phrase was by Edward Bulwer-Lytton in a dedicatory epistle for 1830, Paul Clifford.[1] ), a basket of deplorables (Hilary Clinton 2016), the dregs of society (Joe Biden 2018). It seems they have been and always will be with us. Sigh...

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Oct 11, 2018 20:53:22   #
PeterBergh
 
chrisg-optical wrote:
... Some of the recent Canon camera models produce CR2 format instead of CRW files. ...


I believe the Canon M50 produces yet another raw format: CR3

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Oct 11, 2018 21:11:48   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Bill_de wrote:
I knew you'd jump in ... with the wrong answer. It's actually the name they chose for the organization. The acronym would have been IOS. But most folks probably think the same as you.

"Because 'International Organization for Standardization' would have different acronyms in different languages (IOS in English, OIN in French for Organisation internationale de normalisation), our founders decided to give it the short form ISO. ISO is derived from the Greek isos, meaning equal. Whatever the country, whatever the language, we are always ISO.

https://www.iso.org/home.html

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I knew you'd jump in ... with the wrong answer. It... (show quote)

And? ISO is the name of the organization. Nothing else. I do not see what your 'point' is. If there was any that is.

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Oct 11, 2018 21:15:32   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Rongnongno wrote:
And? ISO is the name of the organization. Nothing else. I do not see what your 'point' is. If there was any that is.


What was your point saying it was an acronym when it is not? Did you have one?

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Oct 11, 2018 21:44:19   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Bill_de wrote:
What was your point saying it was an acronym when it is not? Did you have one?

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Nevermind you seem to one with a mental issue. Enjoy or take a pill.

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