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Oct 3, 2018 13:33:14   #
zzzynick Loc: Colorado
 
Ugly Hedgehog is kinda like a bad drug addiction for me.
I want to stay away, but it seems I am here everyday.
I am not a fan of B&W.
It's moody, check out the contrast, it sets the tone. It's so artistic.
It's B.S.
I see in color.
Everyone even me, gets lucky and can pull off a b&w shot every now and then.
There are not that many photographers, who can successfully make a living shooting only B&W.
They are not on this site.
I got banned from the street section for making comments about Voss's and other people's street photos.
To me, if you have to explain the shot it becomes a snapshot. A image should stand on it's own. The only information Ansel gave was, where the shot took place. Anything more is a postcard.
In regards to the street section
I guess out of focus images that are full of black blobs, just do not fit into my idea of a good photograph
I have not seen one shot I would hang on my wall.
There seems to be a serious lack definition between the b****s.
On Voss's post today, the guy is a blob from the waist down.
Look for yourself.
I tried to post that observation. That's when I found out I had been banned.
The guy [Alpflo?] who runs the site, apparently has issues with anyone who dares cross him.
I had commented on a post awhile back.
He told me, I didn't understand street photography.
I corrected him, and told him I did indeed understand the concept.
He then asked why I wasn't shooting street
I explained, I live in the country. There are days that go by when the only people I see are my family.
That the area I live in, does not have a main street. The only place around here, where there are people, is at the grocery store. I explained that taking shots of little old ladies pushing a shopping cart didn't spin my wheels. I guess he didn't care for that response.
I also wrote I didn't care about the rules of street photography that were from the 1950's.
Times change, we have gone away from film. Back before we had DSLR's, color was a lot more expensive. The film cost more, the chemicals and enlarger were big bucks. Any artist struggling or not, will try to save money. Drum roll please... That is why back in the good old bad days they shot in b&w.
I tried without success, to explain rules were made to be broken.
I told him more and more street photographers are shooting in color.
How else does the art of photography expand.
Art is not static. Look to see the difference between Rembrandt and Picasso.
Change is one of the most, critically important aspects of art.
The sad part is that so many are afraid of change.
It seems Alpo is one of them
As long as this is my last post before I am tossed.
Here is some free advice
You have to be on the net to get here.
Use it.
Stop asking what gear to buy
Google the lens, the camera you want to buy.
READ THE REVIEWS.
Then you can make a intelligent decision on what to buy. Nobody and I mean nobody, can make that decision but you
Quit bragging, I do not care if you are going to Timbuctoo, If you are smart enough to plan a trip, you should be smart enough to figure out what F#^$ing camera or lens to take.
Stop the bird and flower pictures. We are all proud of the shots we take. But honesty., you guys overdosed me. I don't know if I can take another picture of either of them anymore.
For all that is Holy, leave the saturation slider alone. I have seen colors in shots, that have never, ever been seen in nature. Stop it. It's seriouly annoying.
And then there is the attic. Who knew you could find N**i's on a photograhy site? This will forever baffle me.
Well its been real and sort of fun.
Adios

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Oct 3, 2018 13:38:03   #
marquith Loc: Colorado
 
I for one, will miss your comments!

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Oct 3, 2018 13:38:23   #
dave.speeking Loc: Brooklyn OH
 
Yeah! But how do you really feel?

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Oct 3, 2018 13:44:06   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
I guess they didn't want to be enlightened by you. Get over yourself.

This post is not about photography, it is about you hurt feeling and if it belonged anywhere, may chit chat.

You probably knew that considering how you started, but you spilled your heart out anyway.

---

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Oct 3, 2018 13:50:30   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
zzzynick wrote:
Ugly Hedgehog is kinda like a bad drug addiction for me.
I want to stay away, but it seems I am here everyday.
I am not a fan of B&W.
It's moody, check out the contrast, it sets the tone. It's so artistic.
It's B.S.
I see in color.
Everyone even me, gets lucky and can pull off a b&w shot every now and then.
There are not that many photographers, who can successfully make a living shooting only B&W.
They are not on this site.
I got banned from the street section for making comments about Voss's and other people's street photos.
To me, if you have to explain the shot it becomes a snapshot. A image should stand on it's own. The only information Ansel gave was, where the shot took place. Anything more is a postcard.
In regards to the street section
I guess out of focus images that are full of black blobs, just do not fit into my idea of a good photograph
I have not seen one shot I would hang on my wall.
There seems to be a serious lack definition between the b****s.
On Voss's post today, the guy is a blob from the waist down.
Look for yourself.
I tried to post that observation. That's when I found out I had been banned.
The guy [Alpflo?] who runs the site, apparently has issues with anyone who dares cross him.
I had commented on a post awhile back.
He told me, I didn't understand street photography.
I corrected him, and told him I did indeed understand the concept.
He then asked why I wasn't shooting street
I explained, I live in the country. There are days that go by when the only people I see are my family.
That the area I live in, does not have a main street. The only place around here, where there are people, is at the grocery store. I explained that taking shots of little old ladies pushing a shopping cart didn't spin my wheels. I guess he didn't care for that response.
I also wrote I didn't care about the rules of street photography that were from the 1950's.
Times change, we have gone away from film. Back before we had DSLR's, color was a lot more expensive. The film cost more, the chemicals and enlarger were big bucks. Any artist struggling or not, will try to save money. Drum roll please... That is why back in the good old bad days they shot in b&w.
I tried without success, to explain rules were made to be broken.
I told him more and more street photographers are shooting in color.
How else does the art of photography expand.
Art is not static. Look to see the difference between Rembrandt and Picasso.
Change is one of the most, critically important aspects of art.
The sad part is that so many are afraid of change.
It seems Alpo is one of them
As long as this is my last post before I am tossed.
Here is some free advice
You have to be on the net to get here.
Use it.
Stop asking what gear to buy
Google the lens, the camera you want to buy.
READ THE REVIEWS.
Then you can make a intelligent decision on what to buy. Nobody and I mean nobody, can make that decision but you
Quit bragging, I do not care if you are going to Timbuctoo, If you are smart enough to plan a trip, you should be smart enough to figure out what F#^$ing camera or lens to take.
Stop the bird and flower pictures. We are all proud of the shots we take. But honesty., you guys overdosed me. I don't know if I can take another picture of either of them anymore.
For all that is Holy, leave the saturation slider alone. I have seen colors in shots, that have never, ever been seen in nature. Stop it. It's seriouly annoying.
And then there is the attic. Who knew you could find N**i's on a photograhy site? This will forever baffle me.
Well its been real and sort of fun.
Adios
Ugly Hedgehog is kinda like a bad drug addiction f... (show quote)




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Oct 3, 2018 13:57:41   #
ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca
 
I held my breath & read the whole thing -- And you know I probably agree with most of it ---
HOWEVER
As for B&W - which I don't shoot simply I'm not good enough - A good B&W will take you breath away - As for street photography - another that I don't shoot simply because I'm not interested - Your right the best need no explanations -- As for all those guys your beating-up -- For goodness sake give them a damn break -- Just folks enjoying a great hobby while "trying" to get better at it

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Oct 3, 2018 14:02:27   #
BebuLamar
 
Street Photography? I never visited that forum. When I read Adams books almost all of his pictures in the books go with details explanation.

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Oct 3, 2018 14:02:29   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
zzzynick wrote:
Ugly Hedgehog is kinda like a bad drug addiction for me.
I want to stay away, but it seems I am here everyday.
I am not a fan of B&W.
It's moody, check out the contrast, it sets the tone. It's so artistic.
It's B.S.
I see in color.
Everyone even me, gets lucky and can pull off a b&w shot every now and then.
There are not that many photographers, who can successfully make a living shooting only B&W.
They are not on this site.
I got banned from the street section for making comments about Voss's and other people's street photos.
To me, if you have to explain the shot it becomes a snapshot. A image should stand on it's own. The only information Ansel gave was, where the shot took place. Anything more is a postcard.
In regards to the street section
I guess out of focus images that are full of black blobs, just do not fit into my idea of a good photograph
I have not seen one shot I would hang on my wall.
There seems to be a serious lack definition between the b****s.
On Voss's post today, the guy is a blob from the waist down.
Look for yourself.
I tried to post that observation. That's when I found out I had been banned.
The guy [Alpflo?] who runs the site, apparently has issues with anyone who dares cross him.
I had commented on a post awhile back.
He told me, I didn't understand street photography.
I corrected him, and told him I did indeed understand the concept.
He then asked why I wasn't shooting street
I explained, I live in the country. There are days that go by when the only people I see are my family.
That the area I live in, does not have a main street. The only place around here, where there are people, is at the grocery store. I explained that taking shots of little old ladies pushing a shopping cart didn't spin my wheels. I guess he didn't care for that response.
I also wrote I didn't care about the rules of street photography that were from the 1950's.
Times change, we have gone away from film. Back before we had DSLR's, color was a lot more expensive. The film cost more, the chemicals and enlarger were big bucks. Any artist struggling or not, will try to save money. Drum roll please... That is why back in the good old bad days they shot in b&w.
I tried without success, to explain rules were made to be broken.
I told him more and more street photographers are shooting in color.
How else does the art of photography expand.
Art is not static. Look to see the difference between Rembrandt and Picasso.
Change is one of the most, critically important aspects of art.
The sad part is that so many are afraid of change.
It seems Alpo is one of them
As long as this is my last post before I am tossed.
Here is some free advice
You have to be on the net to get here.
Use it.
Stop asking what gear to buy
Google the lens, the camera you want to buy.
READ THE REVIEWS.
Then you can make a intelligent decision on what to buy. Nobody and I mean nobody, can make that decision but you
Quit bragging, I do not care if you are going to Timbuctoo, If you are smart enough to plan a trip, you should be smart enough to figure out what F#^$ing camera or lens to take.
Stop the bird and flower pictures. We are all proud of the shots we take. But honesty., you guys overdosed me. I don't know if I can take another picture of either of them anymore.
For all that is Holy, leave the saturation slider alone. I have seen colors in shots, that have never, ever been seen in nature. Stop it. It's seriouly annoying.
And then there is the attic. Who knew you could find N**i's on a photograhy site? This will forever baffle me.
Well its been real and sort of fun.
Adios
Ugly Hedgehog is kinda like a bad drug addiction f... (show quote)
You need a thicker skin... if not Adios!

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Oct 3, 2018 14:05:02   #
sherry roberson Loc: Rome, georgia
 
I happen to love bird and flower photography. They are part of creation they have life . I would rather see that than people pictures or buildings, yo each his own. If we all liked the same thing it would be a boring world, takes all kinds. That's the beauty.

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Oct 3, 2018 14:07:52   #
krl48 Loc: NY, PA now SC
 
So you got banned from one street section. There is another one, ya know, and it has a broader definition of 'street photography' than Apaflo's.

And, while I'm not the arbiter of what gets you banned on the UHH, I don't think any of the opinions or criticisms you offered in your post are enough to get you booted from UHH.

If you want to break your addiction to UHH, you'll have to quit coming around this place on your own...there ain't no unsubscribing to UHH - It's the Hotel California of websites.

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Oct 3, 2018 14:12:26   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Interesting and I agree with a lot of it.

I think that 99% of the so-called street photography I see is utter boring garbage.

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Oct 3, 2018 14:16:41   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
I couldn't agree more about B&W. I see in color. B&W was for before color was a viable option. Ever see a DaVinci in B&W? The rest of your rant is just that.

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Oct 3, 2018 14:23:31   #
zzzynick Loc: Colorado
 
Frst off, thanks for the replies.
Secondly, I am very thick skinned. Unless you want to give money or pay my bills, you opinion of me is of absolutley no coniquince. For all you in the attic who may not understand big words, that means I don't care.
And lastly, I write what I feel, there is no one holding a gun to your head and making you read what I write.
If that offends you, Plese refer to the second statement.

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Oct 3, 2018 14:33:04   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
zzzynick wrote:
Ugly Hedgehog is kinda like a bad drug addiction for me.
I want to stay away, but it seems I am here everyday.
I am not a fan of B&W.
It's moody, check out the contrast, it sets the tone. It's so artistic.
It's B.S.
I see in color.
Everyone even me, gets lucky and can pull off a b&w shot every now and then.
There are not that many photographers, who can successfully make a living shooting only B&W.
They are not on this site.
I got banned from the street section for making comments about Voss's and other people's street photos.
To me, if you have to explain the shot it becomes a snapshot. A image should stand on it's own. The only information Ansel gave was, where the shot took place. Anything more is a postcard.
In regards to the street section
I guess out of focus images that are full of black blobs, just do not fit into my idea of a good photograph
I have not seen one shot I would hang on my wall.
There seems to be a serious lack definition between the b****s.
On Voss's post today, the guy is a blob from the waist down.
Look for yourself.
I tried to post that observation. That's when I found out I had been banned.
The guy [Alpflo?] who runs the site, apparently has issues with anyone who dares cross him.
I had commented on a post awhile back.
He told me, I didn't understand street photography.
I corrected him, and told him I did indeed understand the concept.
He then asked why I wasn't shooting street
I explained, I live in the country. There are days that go by when the only people I see are my family.
That the area I live in, does not have a main street. The only place around here, where there are people, is at the grocery store. I explained that taking shots of little old ladies pushing a shopping cart didn't spin my wheels. I guess he didn't care for that response.
I also wrote I didn't care about the rules of street photography that were from the 1950's.
Times change, we have gone away from film. Back before we had DSLR's, color was a lot more expensive. The film cost more, the chemicals and enlarger were big bucks. Any artist struggling or not, will try to save money. Drum roll please... That is why back in the good old bad days they shot in b&w.
I tried without success, to explain rules were made to be broken.
I told him more and more street photographers are shooting in color.
How else does the art of photography expand.
Art is not static. Look to see the difference between Rembrandt and Picasso.
Change is one of the most, critically important aspects of art.
The sad part is that so many are afraid of change.
It seems Alpo is one of them
As long as this is my last post before I am tossed.
Here is some free advice
You have to be on the net to get here.
Use it.
Stop asking what gear to buy
Google the lens, the camera you want to buy.
READ THE REVIEWS.
Then you can make a intelligent decision on what to buy. Nobody and I mean nobody, can make that decision but you
Quit bragging, I do not care if you are going to Timbuctoo, If you are smart enough to plan a trip, you should be smart enough to figure out what F#^$ing camera or lens to take.
Stop the bird and flower pictures. We are all proud of the shots we take. But honesty., you guys overdosed me. I don't know if I can take another picture of either of them anymore.
For all that is Holy, leave the saturation slider alone. I have seen colors in shots, that have never, ever been seen in nature. Stop it. It's seriouly annoying.
And then there is the attic. Who knew you could find N**i's on a photograhy site? This will forever baffle me.
Well its been real and sort of fun.
Adios
Ugly Hedgehog is kinda like a bad drug addiction f... (show quote)


I think you should take a Valium and take a vacation in the attic.
It’ll make you whole, as opposed to just an unsatisfied and frustrated photographer!!! LoL
That’s what I do but I skip the Valium!!
SS

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Oct 3, 2018 14:40:55   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
He must have been a real Asshole to get kicked out of Street Photography.



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