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Oct 2, 2018 11:18:13   #
Ron 717 Loc: Pennsylvania
 
I have 2 questions; Inquisitive minds want to know:

1. Is it recommended to shut down the printer between printing jobs that are several weeks apart or leave it on to go into sleep mode?

2. When replacing an empty ink cartridge, will all of the cartridges go through a purge cycle or just the one that was replaced?

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Oct 2, 2018 11:51:39   #
nikonbrain Loc: Crystal River Florida
 
Depends on the printer , I own a large format printer a Canon 44" ipf8300 my friend just got a new canon 4000 same pfinter as mine only 2 generations newer . A few facts on canon printers not common knowledge , I was told by the tech installing the new printer . On these newer printers Canon inks contain glycerin and some have a glycerin tank , the purpose is to keep nozzles clean , when the head is parked it has a capping station on my printer the head is sitting in ink and there is a negative pressure kept on the heads this keeps wet ink in the nozzles . He said I should keep the printer on all the time to keep this negative pressure and the system also has mixers in the sub tanks and it keeps the inks from separating . I print a 4" test strip 36" long every 3rd day .I am on second year on these HEADS this Christmas it will be going on their third ..I must also say NO THIRD PARTY INK it was explained to me most all third party inks do no contain the glycerin remember that the heads on canon printers and epson printers have heaters in the heads this includes the pro 9000 series of canon printers, if you have a clogged nozzle and keep doing power cleans you can burn out that nozzle set ruining the head you see the ink is the coolant . So to your question I do not know about your printer , but if it is in the generation line of The 9000 series . I would keep it powered and on an APC to stop power surges ......

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Oct 2, 2018 12:49:23   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
I just push the power button and turn it off when I am done.
The Pro-100 will do a cleaning cycle when it has not been used for 60 hours if left turned on. If turned off it does a cleaning cycle when turned back on.

And if someone chimes in saying they have a Pro-100s, well the only difference is the 's' has wi-fi.

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Oct 2, 2018 16:30:24   #
Ron 717 Loc: Pennsylvania
 
nikonbrain wrote:
Depends on the printer , I own a large format printer a Canon 44" ipf8300 my friend just got a new canon 4000 same pfinter as mine only 2 generations newer . A few facts on canon printers not common knowledge , I was told by the tech installing the new printer . On these newer printers Canon inks contain glycerin and some have a glycerin tank , the purpose is to keep nozzles clean , when the head is parked it has a capping station on my printer the head is sitting in ink and there is a negative pressure kept on the heads this keeps wet ink in the nozzles . He said I should keep the printer on all the time to keep this negative pressure and the system also has mixers in the sub tanks and it keeps the inks from separating . I print a 4" test strip 36" long every 3rd day .I am on second year on these HEADS this Christmas it will be going on their third ..I must also say NO THIRD PARTY INK it was explained to me most all third party inks do no contain the glycerin remember that the heads on canon printers and epson printers have heaters in the heads this includes the pro 9000 series of canon printers, if you have a clogged nozzle and keep doing power cleans you can burn out that nozzle set ruining the head you see the ink is the coolant . So to your question I do not know about your printer , but if it is in the generation line of The 9000 series . I would keep it powered and on an APC to stop power surges ......
Depends on the printer , I own a large format prin... (show quote)


Thank you for this info.

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Oct 2, 2018 16:31:50   #
Ron 717 Loc: Pennsylvania
 
robertjerl wrote:
I just push the power button and turn it off when I am done.
The Pro-100 will do a cleaning cycle when it has not been used for 60 hours if left turned on. If turned off it does a cleaning cycle when turned back on.

And if someone chimes in saying they have a Pro-100s, well the only difference is the 's' has wi-fi.


Thank you, I usually turn it off after a print session, wasn’t sure if others did the same.

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Oct 2, 2018 16:48:24   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Ron 717 wrote:
Thank you, I usually turn it off after a print session, wasn’t sure if others did the same.

If it can be turned off completely, I turn it off.
You know all those instant remotes and electronic things with a little ready light (and some without)? That means they all have a tiny trickle of power usage to keep it ready to react when the remote is used. So the TV, Cable Box and Sound system are the only ones I leave on standby without being totally turned off. Well, anything with a clock you have no choice unless you cut the power when not in use, then of course the clock doesn't work and when you turn the power back on at the power strip or plug it in the blinking clock will drive you nuts until you reset it or cut the power again.

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Oct 3, 2018 04:50:14   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
I own a Canon Pixma PRO-100 printer. I turn it off when I am finished printing. Upon starting, the printhead takes about 90-seconds to warm-up. Printer ink formulas are NOT top secret. Anyone with a mass spectrometer can decipher any ink formula, and several third party ink manufacturers have done just that. Canon propaganda suggests otherwise. Like any industry, quality will vary among manufacturers. I have been VERY happy with inks by LD Products, and their prices are about 1/3 of Canon brand cartridges: https://www.ldproducts.com/Canon/Ink-Cartridge/PIXMA/PRO-100/8488-Printer.html

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Oct 3, 2018 07:58:14   #
duffy021049 Loc: Colorado
 
1. You can turn it off but don't unplug it.
2. Each time you change one cart it will do a complete purge cycle. (Canon pro 100)
Suggest Jose Rodriguez Utube videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTqrUNqgBgo

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Oct 3, 2018 08:28:07   #
Jrhoffman75 Loc: Conway, New Hampshire
 
1. I don’t know what the difference between 100 and 100s version is, but it isn’t WiFi. The Pro-100 has WiFi.
2. The cleaning cycle doesn’t automatically occur after 60 hours of non-use. It will occur the next time you print after 60 hours.
3. Even “jtoolman”, a strong advocate of certain 3rd party inks, admits that the Canon inks are superior for longevity.
4. If you connect to the printer via WiFi it will stay on all the time to “listen”.

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Oct 3, 2018 13:50:45   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Jrhoffman75 wrote:
1. I don’t know what the difference between 100 and 100s version is, but it isn’t WiFi. The Pro-100 has WiFi.
2. The cleaning cycle doesn’t automatically occur after 60 hours of non-use. It will occur the next time you print after 60 hours.
3. Even “jtoolman”, a strong advocate of certain 3rd party inks, admits that the Canon inks are superior for longevity.
4. If you connect to the printer via WiFi it will stay on all the time to “listen”.


OK, I forgot to put the word "improved" wifi for the 100s. There are a few other changes, incremental for the most part.

https://www.photoreview.com.au/reviews/printers/canon-pixma-pro-100s/

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Oct 3, 2018 16:36:05   #
TonyBot
 
Ron - I own a Pro-10, and while not the same model, probably has similar features.

1) I rarely (meaning every few weeks) ever shut it down. I print at least weekly, sometimes several times daily or weekly, and sometimes not for many days. I have *never* heard the print head clean itself. I am sure that when users state the "every 60 hours" remark, there must be some validity to it. When not in use the print head will automatically "park" itself to keep the ink carts from drying out. The only times I shut it down is if I am going away for several days or there are thunderstorms in the area. (I've never had a problem with surges, but a friend lost almost every electronic device in the house to a lightning strike two houses down.) Oh - and occasionally - the WiFi connection seems to not work, so I shut it down for three or four minutes and then start it again.

After three years of use, the ink sump is still nowhere near full.

2) And this will become controversial, I *do not* replace the ink cart until the machine will not start a new job. Since I only use OEM carts, they can be expensive, as I am sure you know. I will *sometimes* replace other carts that are slow flashing, but generally, if it just started and the "ink low" prompt just now came on, I will wait, since there is probably still at least 10% of the ink left. I do not have any idea of how much ink the "purge" does when replacing carts, but I really think that it only primes the cart that was replaced. Again, the ink sump on my unit is nowhere near full. Canon service (not the person who answers the phone, but the real service rep) might be able to answer the question, but I really don't worry about it.

And further, I have a friend, a respected portrait pro, who uses the Pro-100 and refills his own carts. He says that he can't tell the difference, and I am sure he is correct. I would guess that if you wanted to refill the ink yourself, it's OK, however, on other printers I have had pretty dismal luck buying the inexpensive "Just Like the Original" 3rd party carts, so I would not do that. But since the Pro-10 is a "pigment" printer, rather than "dye", I would rather stick with Canon.

Ron, if this is your first printer - good luck! You picked a good one!

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Oct 3, 2018 17:48:53   #
Jrhoffman75 Loc: Conway, New Hampshire
 
I agree. Do not replace any cartridges until printer wont print. But, when you do replace, replace any that have an exclamation point to avoid the “domino effect”. Replace a cartridge and the printer purges all. The purge could empty others.

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Oct 4, 2018 07:19:48   #
Jrhoffman75 Loc: Conway, New Hampshire
 
While it may be true that SOME third party inks can ruin a print head it is not true that ALL third party inks will ruin a print head. Therevare quality third party inks.

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Oct 4, 2018 09:59:46   #
nikonbrain Loc: Crystal River Florida
 
Jrhoffman75 wrote:
While it may be true that SOME third party inks can ruin a print head it is not true that ALL third party inks will ruin a print head. Therevare quality third party inks.


Do you want to "GAMBLE" on a $1000.00 dollar to $4000.00 dollar printer...it is to the point that anything over a13 inch is profesional printer by that I mean one that you use to make money , selling your art .It is not right to sell a print to a customer that you know is going to fade , that all dye based prints will eventually do , while pigment based inks will last 100 to 200 years when properly processed on guality paper with guality formulated inks .If all you are doing is printing fo your self to enjoy fine ...but I do not fit into that categorie , I print to sell my art and a handfull of local artist who want a guality print on a guality canvas made on a guality stretcher frame with the ink the manufacturer's claim will come true , because the client and their customer demand that when they buy a piece of art . I need to keep this printer running for at least another couple years , if I cant ressolve a problem that stops it from printing it is a flat rate of $1500.00 dollars plus the the printer has to have two new heads under warranty which is only one year before they will send a tech and when the tech prints a data sheet from its hard drive and sees third party ink nothing is warrantied...

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Oct 4, 2018 12:24:37   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
nikonbrain wrote:
Do you want to "GAMBLE" on a $1000.00 dollar to $4000.00 dollar printer...it is to the point that anything over a13 inch is profesional printer by that I mean one that you use to make money , selling your art .It is not right to sell a print to a customer that you know is going to fade , that all dye based prints will eventually do , while pigment based inks will last 100 to 200 years when properly processed on guality paper with guality formulated inks .If all you are doing is printing fo your self to enjoy fine ...but I do not fit into that categorie , I print to sell my art and a handfull of local artist who want a guality print on a guality canvas made on a guality stretcher frame with the ink the manufacturer's claim will come true , because the client and their customer demand that when they buy a piece of art . I need to keep this printer running for at least another couple years , if I cant ressolve a problem that stops it from printing it is a flat rate of $1500.00 dollars plus the the printer has to have two new heads under warranty which is only one year before they will send a tech and when the tech prints a data sheet from its hard drive and sees third party ink nothing is warrantied...
Do you want to "GAMBLE" on a $1000.00 do... (show quote)


That is your commercial grade printer - most of us use consumer grade or Pro-sumer printers like the Canon Pixma Pro series. I use the Pro-100 and I refill with Precision Colors inks for about 4 years now. No Problems. A couple of years ago I read that Precision Colors has their inks custom made by Image Specialists. IS makes ink for the commercial printing industry and has a complete line of museum archive quality inks.

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