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Sep 23, 2018 16:45:23   #
rdrechsler
 
I’m having an interesting problem. I am shooting a toy for a photography class and I can’t get the color right (shown here with window light). It has to be in natural light. I’ve tried all the white balance settings including the entire Kelvin scale. I’ve also tried every workable ISO, Shutter and aperture setting and I still can'€™t get it right. I’ve tried 3 different lenses and two other cameras and they all yield far less that a perfect match. The attached iPhone shot it indicative of the problem. There is a lot more green in the hue of the actual toy bowling pin, but every shot I take is too far off to even adjust in post. Any ideas about what I might be missing?


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Sep 23, 2018 17:27:29   #
Architect1776 (a regular here)
 
rdrechsler wrote:
I’m having an interesting problem. I am shooting a toy for a photography class and I can’t get the color right (shown here with window light). It has to be in natural light. I’ve tried all the white balance settings including the entire Kelvin scale. I’ve also tried every workable ISO, Shutter and aperture setting and I still can'€™t get it right. I’ve tried 3 different lenses and two other cameras and they all yield far less that a perfect match. The attached iPhone shot it indicative of the problem. There is a lot more green in the hue of the actual toy bowling pin, but every shot I take is too far off to even adjust in post. Any ideas about what I might be missing?
I’m having an interesting problem. I am shooting a... (show quote)


Are there other colors around the toy?
It appears to be that way.

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Sep 23, 2018 17:33:53   #
artBob (a regular here)
 
rdrechsler wrote:
I’m having an interesting problem. I am shooting a toy for a photography class and I can’t get the color right (shown here with window light). It has to be in natural light. I’ve tried all the white balance settings including the entire Kelvin scale. I’ve also tried every workable ISO, Shutter and aperture setting and I still can'€™t get it right. I’ve tried 3 different lenses and two other cameras and they all yield far less that a perfect match. The attached iPhone shot it indicative of the problem. There is a lot more green in the hue of the actual toy bowling pin, but every shot I take is too far off to even adjust in post. Any ideas about what I might be missing?
I’m having an interesting problem. I am shooting a... (show quote)


Normal things, such as auto color and auto exposure in camera raw in Photoshop do not help. You are shooting, it seems, a reflective surface, over exposed, and in blue light (from the sky). Work on those problems, would be my suggestion.

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Sep 23, 2018 17:34:00   #
northsidejoe
 
My wild guess is direct sunlight if that is the case photo outside during the evening hours hopes this helps saying hello from Pittsburgh.

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Sep 23, 2018 17:37:54   #
Longshadow (a regular here)
 
Tint in the windows? Mine have a green tinge a certain way you look at them from the outside in sunlight

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Sep 23, 2018 17:40:22   #
rdrechsler
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Are there other colors around the toy?
It appears to be that way.


I’ve tried it with a black background as well. No difference, the color is still off.

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Sep 23, 2018 17:44:26   #
rdrechsler
 
artBob wrote:
Normal things, such as auto color and auto exposure in camera raw in Photoshop do not help. You are shooting, it seems, a reflective surface, over exposed, and in blue light (from the sky). Work on those problems, would be my suggestion.


Good point. The blue Sky reflection could be a problem, but the iPhone shot I used just to illustrate the problem was shot indoors with window light only.

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Sep 23, 2018 19:15:23   #
uhaas2009
 
Take a phone camera and walk around your subject and see how your subject change. The black table can give trouble too.... belongs how the light falls on it, if the table have a shine too....or outside”available light”

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Sep 23, 2018 19:46:35   #
uhaas2009
 
Walk around your subject with phone camera to see the difference.....the light is hitting directly the front what show’s to much light on your subject..... change the distance between your subject and window light, or diffuse the light or outside...... available light isn’t an easy task

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Sep 24, 2018 06:48:44   #
OnDSnap
 
Try shooting it in light from a North facing window...

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Sep 24, 2018 08:43:39   #
Jolly Roger
 
Why not use an X-rite colour checker passport target next to the bowling pin. Take a shot, then remove the CCP and then shoot again.
In Lightroom you can then calibrate the colours from the 'target' shot.

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Sep 24, 2018 08:43:59   #
SonyA580
 
How are you viewing the shots? If you are looking at all of the shots on the same monitor ......, it could be that the monitor is out of calibration.

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Sep 24, 2018 09:57:23   #
BobHartung
 
rdrechsler wrote:
I’m having an interesting problem. I am shooting a toy for a photography class and I can’t get the color right (shown here with window light). It has to be in natural light. I’ve tried all the white balance settings including the entire Kelvin scale. I’ve also tried every workable ISO, Shutter and aperture setting and I still can'€™t get it right. I’ve tried 3 different lenses and two other cameras and they all yield far less that a perfect match. The attached iPhone shot it indicative of the problem. There is a lot more green in the hue of the actual toy bowling pin, but every shot I take is too far off to even adjust in post. Any ideas about what I might be missing?
I’m having an interesting problem. I am shooting a... (show quote)


Lots of good ideas. Try this: make sure the entire background is black (or white); get a piece of black (or white) poster board if necessary. Diffuse the sunlight with a thin white sheet over the window. Remove anything of color around the bowling pin. By the by, what color are the walls in the room?

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Sep 24, 2018 10:47:40   #
burkphoto (a regular here)
 
rdrechsler wrote:
I’m having an interesting problem. I am shooting a toy for a photography class and I can’t get the color right (shown here with window light). It has to be in natural light. I’ve tried all the white balance settings including the entire Kelvin scale. I’ve also tried every workable ISO, Shutter and aperture setting and I still can'€™t get it right. I’ve tried 3 different lenses and two other cameras and they all yield far less that a perfect match. The attached iPhone shot it indicative of the problem. There is a lot more green in the hue of the actual toy bowling pin, but every shot I take is too far off to even adjust in post. Any ideas about what I might be missing?
I’m having an interesting problem. I am shooting a... (show quote)


Do a custom or preset or manual white balance (different camera companies call it different things). You'll need a suitable white balance target. Most of them are also excellent for nailing exposure in JPEGs. They all work as aids to "click balance" with an eyedropper tool when post-processing.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/Light-White-Balancing-Accessories/ci/12260/N/4077634549

Professionals use the X-Rite ColorChecker Passport and Adobe Lightroom software to achieve true-to-life color (or as close as you can get in photography).

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Sep 24, 2018 11:56:11   #
dfrodin
 
If you have Photoshop, make a selection of the blue pin and then change the color using the available adjustments. Should work.

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