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Sep 18, 2018 11:11:32   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
I'm sure the usual suspects will disparage this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-HS8P0l_KU&t=15s

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Sep 18, 2018 11:15:11   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
If you believe that forcibly separating children from their parents is not abuse then you may have a point.
I, on the other hand, do not believe that and view this treatment as abuse.
Now if you would also like to fix the other problems, I'm with you.

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Sep 18, 2018 11:52:40   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
Frank T wrote:
If you believe that forcibly separating children from their parents is not abuse then you may have a point.
I, on the other hand, do not believe that and view this treatment as abuse.
Now if you would also like to fix the other problems, I'm with you.


Do you express that same f**e 'concern' for American citizens who are incarcerated?

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Sep 18, 2018 12:04:19   #
forbescat
 
Frank T wrote:
If you believe that forcibly separating children from their parents is not abuse then you may have a point.
I, on the other hand, do not believe that and view this treatment as abuse.
Now if you would also like to fix the other problems, I'm with you.


In many cases there is no proof that the adults are the parents. I was a stay-at-home mom. My parents came to stay with our sons when my husband and I were away for 4 nights. When my parents picked us up at the airport, my 2 year old son clung to my mother. I was shocked. My point is that children don't always think in terms of "legal parent" so assuming that some of these children aren't being used to gain entry to this country is a dangerous fallacy.

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Sep 18, 2018 14:10:13   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
skylane5sp wrote:
Do you express that same f**e 'concern' for American citizens who are incarcerated?


No, they're convicted of crimes and sentenced to prison. I might take notice that minorities do a lot more time that
Caucasians facing the same crime, but that would just upset you and I'm trying to be nice today.

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Sep 18, 2018 15:10:11   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
Frank T wrote:
No, they're convicted of crimes and sentenced to prison. I might take notice that minorities do a lot more time that
Caucasians facing the same crime, but that would just upset you and I'm trying to be nice today.


OK. Wrong word. Not incarcerated. Confined. BFD. Lots of parents get arrested, thrown in jail and separated from their children before going to court.

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Sep 18, 2018 16:47:22   #
EyeSawYou
 
Frank T wrote:
If you believe that forcibly separating children from their parents is not abuse then you may have a point.
I, on the other hand, do not believe that and view this treatment as abuse.
Now if you would also like to fix the other problems, I'm with you.


Were you outraged when children were separated from their parents during Obamas watch? Were you also outraged when some immigrant children were assigned to human traffickers during Obama's watch as well? Did you express that outrage publically?

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Sep 18, 2018 19:46:07   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Were you outraged when children were separated from their parents during Obamas watch? Were you also outraged when some immigrant children were assigned to human traffickers during Obama's watch as well? Did you express that outrage publically?


Ph I see were going to play Trump can do bad things and you support him because Obama did bad things. Makes sense in Mom's basement, I guess.

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Sep 19, 2018 08:11:04   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
Frank T wrote:
Ph I see were going to play Trump can do bad things and you support him because Obama did bad things. Makes sense in Mom's basement, I guess.


He asked if you were outraged when this occurred under Obama. Can you answer the question and not deflect?

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Sep 19, 2018 10:05:16   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
Since it did not happen there is no outrage!

The Obama administration faced a surge of unaccompanied children from Central America trying to cross the border in 2014. Cecilia Muñoz, director of the Obama administration’s Domestic Policy Council, told the New York Times this month that a multi-agency team was considering “every possible idea” at the time, including separating families. “I do remember looking at each other like, ‘We’re not going to do this, are we?’ We spent five minutes thinking it through and concluded that it was a bad idea,” the Times quoted Muñoz saying. “The morality of it was clear — that’s not who we are.”

Brown told us that while the Obama administration “did separate some families,” it also tried to detain families together. In 2016, a court ruling limited how long children with their parents could be in family detention centers. That ruling confirmed that a 1997 settlement applied to both unaccompanied and accompanied minors, as we’ve explained before.
/www.factcheck.org/2018/06/did-the-obama-administration-separate-families/

papakatz45 wrote:
He asked if you were outraged when this occurred under Obama. Can you answer the question and not deflect?


Since you are so easily duped I think I have a proposition for you. You see, I have this bridge for sale...

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Sep 19, 2018 10:27:40   #
EyeSawYou
 
ole sarg wrote:
Since it did not happen there is no outrage!

The Obama administration faced a surge of unaccompanied children from Central America trying to cross the border in 2014. Cecilia Muñoz, director of the Obama administration’s Domestic Policy Council, told the New York Times this month that a multi-agency team was considering “every possible idea” at the time, including separating families. “I do remember looking at each other like, ‘We’re not going to do this, are we?’ We spent five minutes thinking it through and concluded that it was a bad idea,” the Times quoted Muñoz saying. “The morality of it was clear — that’s not who we are.”

Brown told us that while the Obama administration “did separate some families,” it also tried to detain families together. In 2016, a court ruling limited how long children with their parents could be in family detention centers. That ruling confirmed that a 1997 settlement applied to both unaccompanied and accompanied minors, as we’ve explained before.
/www.factcheck.org/2018/06/did-the-obama-administration-separate-families/



Since you are so easily duped I think I have a proposition for you. You see, I have this bridge for sale...
Since it did not happen there is no outrage! br b... (show quote)


You liar, children were in fact separated from their immigrant parents during Obama's watch. You don't remember those photos of children in cages with captions blaming Trump that were actually photos from 2014? How about this one you conveniently omitted from my response?



Did the Obama Administration Place Immigrant Children With Human Traffickers? Yes


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-obama-administration-children-human-traffickers/

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