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Nikon D3500, released TODAY ... does it have a Self-Clean Sensor, or not?
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Sep 1, 2018 14:38:59   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
All Nikon DSLRs up till the release of the D3400, had this feature - which I consider a requirement - particularly, in a Beginner Camera ... but Nikon chose to leave it OUT of the D3400 ... Gawd Knows Why! ... Does the newer D3500 continue this neglect, or has Nikon wisely chosen to put it back in???

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Sep 2, 2018 07:35:14   #
Echo Tango
 
Ken Rockwell says “no.”
https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/d3500.htm

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Sep 2, 2018 09:38:47   #
lamontcranston
 
Echo Tango wrote:
Ken Rockwell says “no.”
https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/d3500.htm


Leaving the Self-Cleaning Sensor out of the D3500 is just hard to believe. What were they thinking? Obviously leaving good and useful features out of new releases is cost-cutting at it worst. Having a usable self-cleaning sensor is the very reason I chose the D3300 over the D3400. IMO the D3300 is the better camera, and remains so, with the introduction of the D3500.

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Sep 2, 2018 10:34:44   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Echo Tango wrote:
Ken Rockwell says “no.”
https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/d3500.htm


Thanks for the link, ET ... don't need to read it ... thanks for the response ...

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Sep 2, 2018 10:40:09   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
lamontcranston wrote:
Leaving the Self-Cleaning Sensor out of the D3500 is just hard to believe. What were they thinking? Obviously leaving good and useful features out of new releases is cost-cutting at it worst. Having a usable self-cleaning sensor is the very reason I chose the D3300 over the D3400. IMO the D3300 is the better camera, and remains so, with the introduction of the D3500.


Yes, I agree with you, Lamont ... it's hard to believe they left it out, yet, again!!! ...

In a BEGINNER camera!!!!! ... Crazy!!!!!

Yes, I think you're right ... the D3300 is the better camera - for that reason, alone!!!

Such a shame!!! ... And, here, I was about to plonk down the dough for the "latest and greatest" ...

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Sep 2, 2018 11:03:52   #
agillot
 
i never used my sensor cleaner on my camera , where do the dust go , it is still inside hiding in the corners .i invested $ 30 for a mini shop vac , this is the best way , you vacuum the particles out of camera and back of lenses .work flawlessly .

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Sep 2, 2018 11:42:42   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
agillot wrote:
i never used my sensor cleaner on my camera , where do the dust go , it is still inside hiding in the corners .i invested $ 30 for a mini shop vac , this is the best way , you vacuum the particles out of camera and back of lenses .work flawlessly .


The auto self-clean sensor, cuts in whenever the camera is switched off, and in some designs, can be set to run, upon start-up, too ...

Running a shop-vac, agillot, anywhere NEAR an SD card ... is a guarantee of imminent disaster ...

But, to each his (or her) own ...

Nikon has now released TWO Beginner cameras, without this feature ... and, I suspect - this will come back to bite them, in the end ....

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Sep 2, 2018 13:02:10   #
WJShaheen Loc: Gold Canyon, AZ
 
Chris T wrote:
The auto self-clean sensor, cuts in whenever the camera is switched off, and in some designs, can be set to run, upon start-up, too ...

Running a shop-vac, agillot, anywhere NEAR an SD card ... is a guarantee of imminent disaster ...

But, to each his (or her) own ...

Nikon has now released TWO Beginner cameras, without this feature ... and, I suspect - this will come back to bite them, in the end ....
The auto self-clean sensor, cuts in whenever the c... (show quote)


They probably allocated that feature to higher level bodies. I was pleased to see it in my D7500. And, it was in my D5600.

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Sep 2, 2018 13:13:58   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
WJShaheen wrote:
They probably allocated that feature to higher level bodies. I was pleased to see it in my D7500. And, it was in my D5600.


WJ ... Canon has left the Auto-Clean sensor cleaning mechanism OUT of their Rebel beginner (non-i) series, since Day One ... shame on them!!!

So, I guess - to save a little money (as though they really NEED such cost-cutting measures) beginning with the D3400 - Nikon followed suit!

I was hoping they'd have realized it didn't serve them well to do so, and they'd have put it back in the new D3500 ... but nooooooooo!!!!!

All other Nikon APS-C DSLRs include this all-important feature ... including the entire 5000 series, AND, of course - the up-scale Prosumer series.

They include the old D90, and its successor - the D7000, the more recent D7100, its successor, the D7200, and the current D7500, and the PRO D500.

Up until the D3400, WJ - the Auto-Clean sensor mechanism - HAD been included in the D3000 beginner series - the D3300 was the last with it ...

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Sep 2, 2018 13:19:50   #
WJShaheen Loc: Gold Canyon, AZ
 
I see what you're saying. Does seem overly frugal of them.

By the way, when I clean my sensor, I point it downwards and remove the lens in the hope that whatever particles that get loosened will fall out.

Probably a pointless exercise on my part to make me feel better.

William


Chris T wrote:
WJ ... Canon has left the Auto-Clean sensor cleaning mechanism OUT of their Rebel beginner (non-i) series, since Day One ... shame on them!!!

So, I guess - to save a little money (as though they really NEED such cost-cutting measures) beginning with the D3400 - Nikon followed suit!

I was hoping they'd have realized it didn't serve them well to do so, and they'd have put it back in the new D3500 ... but nooooooooo!!!!!

All other Nikon APS-C DSLRs include this all-important feature ... including the entire 5000 series, AND, of course - the up-scale Prosumer series.

They include the old D90, and its successor - the D7000, the more recent D7100, its successor, the D7200, and the current D7500, and the PRO D500.

Up until the D3400, WJ - the Auto-Clean sensor mechanism - HAD been included in the D3000 beginner series - the D3300 was the last with it ...
WJ ... Canon has left the Auto-Clean sensor cleani... (show quote)

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Sep 2, 2018 13:43:45   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
WJShaheen wrote:
I see what you're saying. Does seem overly frugal of them.

By the way, when I clean my sensor, I point it downwards and remove the lens in the hope that whatever particles that get loosened will fall out.

Probably a pointless exercise on my part to make me feel better.

William


William ... Nikon has also stopped putting those little plastic flash-shoe protectors on newer releases - have you noticed?

I mean, REALLY, William ... about how much does THAT save them, overall?

When I clean the sensor on my Rebel T3 (my ONLY DSLR w/o auto-clean) ... which is a pretty fruitless exercise, if you ask me ... I always have it facing up, so I can see what I'm doing ... short of that, a hard BANG - on the side of the body ... seems to do wonders!!!!!!


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Sep 2, 2018 15:05:26   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Chris T wrote:
Yes, I agree with you, Lamont ... it's hard to believe they left it out, yet, again!!! ...

In a BEGINNER camera!!!!! ... Crazy!!!!!

Yes, I think you're right ... the D3300 is the better camera - for that reason, alone!!!

Such a shame!!! ... And, here, I was about to plonk down the dough for the "latest and greatest" ...


They also took out the simple cheap infrared release. So now you need your phone and App linked to the camera for remote release. STUPID!

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Sep 2, 2018 15:06:23   #
WJShaheen Loc: Gold Canyon, AZ
 
Chris T wrote:
William ... Nikon has also stopped putting those little plastic flash-shoe protectors on newer releases - have you noticed?

I mean, REALLY, William ... about how much does THAT save them, overall?

When I clean the sensor on my Rebel T3 (my ONLY DSLR w/o auto-clean) ... which is a pretty fruitless exercise, if you ask me ... I always have it facing up, so I can see what I'm doing ... short of that, a hard BANG - on the side of the body ... seems to do wonders!!!!!!

William ... Nikon has also stopped putting those l... (show quote)


I'm not defending their marketing rationale, just speculating on what it may be.

William

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Sep 2, 2018 15:13:21   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
IDguy wrote:
They also took out the simple cheap infrared release. So now you need your phone and App linked to the camera for remote release. STUPID!


Really, ID? ... Nikon must REALLY be hurting ... maybe they're not selling as many of those $6500 D5s as they'd hoped - huh?


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Sep 2, 2018 15:16:46   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
WJShaheen wrote:
I'm not defending their marketing rationale, just speculating on what it may be.

William


No need to defend them, William ... they seem to be getting plenty back on those $3350 D850s - don't they?

Maybe, once everyone and their cousin has one ... they'll put back the stuff they left out of their lower line cameras ... ?

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