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Aug 14, 2018 15:45:38   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
No picture. Hope that is OK. Google "Five rules of macro photography and when to break them". May be useful. Bill

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Aug 14, 2018 17:36:10   #
Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI
 
Interesting. I have never been trained in photography, and so I have happily made up my own rules. Some of them happen to coincide with the rules that are at times to be broken.
1. Try to get the subject (likely an insect) in sharp focus from end to end & top to bottom. I suppose I should consider deliberately not doing this by using wider apertures. It might be interesting to break this rule.
2. Keep the background as simple as possible so it is not distracting. Best if the background is well out of focus. I pretty much never break this one since my photography seems to always be about a subject and the subject (likely an insect) is paramount. But maybe I should broaden my horizons.

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Aug 14, 2018 17:44:11   #
rwilson1942 Loc: Houston, TX
 
Corollary to rule #1: If you can't keep the entire insect in focus, be sure the eye(s) are in focus.

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Aug 14, 2018 17:55:13   #
EnglishBrenda Loc: Kent, England
 
That sounds reasonable but I think there is a difference in the parameters for 'record' macro and 'artistic' macro.

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Aug 14, 2018 18:00:31   #
rwilson1942 Loc: Houston, TX
 
EnglishBrenda wrote:
That sounds reasonable but I think there is a difference in the parameters for 'record' macro and 'artistic' macro.


true

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Aug 14, 2018 18:08:45   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
rwilson1942 wrote:
true


Second that. The ambiguity of the line baffles me. I keep working on it.
Bill

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Aug 14, 2018 19:20:40   #
gym Loc: Athens, Georgia
 
Clearly the author of the article is PRIMARILY interested in "artistic macro". This is illustrated by the fact that he doesn't use an aperture smaller than 7.1. I would guess that most of the exceptional photographers on this board don't use an aperture larger than f/11. Also, there is an amazing amount of artistic effort in those images that are here designated as "record".

Let's all raise a glass to diversity of style!

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Aug 14, 2018 19:30:20   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
gym wrote:
Clearly the author of the article is PRIMARILY interested in "artistic macro". This is illustrated by the fact that he doesn't use an aperture smaller than 7.1. I would guess that most of the exceptional photographers on this board don't use an aperture larger than f/11. Also, there is an amazing amount of artistic effort in those images that are here designated as "record".

Let's all raise a glass to diversity of style!


Here, here

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Aug 14, 2018 20:02:56   #
Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI
 
I can second that. But I think most of us here are 'recorders' of arthropods while also trying to impose certain aesthetics. Consider the great effort we go through to get good diffusion to cut out shadows, fill in nooks and crannies with light, and reduce the strength of specular highlights. Strong diffusion of light is generally seen as one of the most essential aesthetic goals in this hobby. I for one have become fairly obsessed with it and that is why I am now on my 5th or 6th diffuser design.
When light diffusion is done maximally the universal reaction is to say how especially great is the picture. But when you think about it, the resulting image is often significantly different from what the subject really looked like in natural lighting! So we may be recorders, but we also use light to apply a little bit of abstraction to our subjects.

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Aug 14, 2018 22:47:27   #
rwilson1942 Loc: Houston, TX
 
Mark Sturtevant wrote:
I can second that. But I think most of us here are 'recorders' of arthropods while also trying to impose certain aesthetics. Consider the great effort we go through to get good diffusion to cut out shadows, fill in nooks and crannies with light, and reduce the strength of specular highlights. Strong diffusion of light is generally seen as one of the most essential aesthetic goals in this hobby. I for one have become fairly obsessed with it and that is why I am now on my 5th or 6th diffuser design.
When light diffusion is done maximally the universal reaction is to say how especially great is the picture. But when you think about it, the resulting image is often significantly different from what the subject really looked like in natural lighting! So we may be recorders, but we also use light to apply a little bit of abstraction to our subjects.
I can second that. But I think most of us here are... (show quote)


Yes, this is what I work toward.

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Aug 15, 2018 11:11:26   #
napabob Loc: Napa CA
 
Mark Sturtevant wrote:
I can second that. But I think most of us here are 'recorders' of arthropods while also trying to impose certain aesthetics. Consider the great effort we go through to get good diffusion to cut out shadows, fill in nooks and crannies with light, and reduce the strength of specular highlights. Strong diffusion of light is generally seen as one of the most essential aesthetic goals in this hobby. I for one have become fairly obsessed with it and that is why I am now on my 5th or 6th diffuser design.
When light diffusion is done maximally the universal reaction is to say how especially great is the picture. But when you think about it, the resulting image is often significantly different from what the subject really looked like in natural lighting! So we may be recorders, but we also use light to apply a little bit of abstraction to our subjects.
I can second that. But I think most of us here are... (show quote)


a-yup

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Aug 15, 2018 11:18:07   #
napabob Loc: Napa CA
 
to quote one of our photographic hero's.....Ansel Adams.......“There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs.”

and after saying that I do like to artsy ........... I vote for Brenda to start an artsy thread

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Aug 15, 2018 11:31:06   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
With a name like "Sippyjug" I'm all for raising a glass....or better yet, a jug! I enjoy seeing all spectrums of macro photography ranging from the artistic through the abstract as well as that of highly detailed specimens that I most often see here which are fascinating and educational of a world seldom seen. As often said, "there's something for everyone".

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Aug 15, 2018 12:10:43   #
EnglishBrenda Loc: Kent, England
 
napabob wrote:
to quote one of our photographic hero's.....Ansel Adams.......“There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs.”

and after saying that I do like to artsy ........... I vote for Brenda to start an artsy thread


WHAT!!

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Aug 15, 2018 15:54:08   #
napabob Loc: Napa CA
 
EnglishBrenda wrote:
WHAT!!



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