What's the big deal? (Page 3): "Canon mirrorless is the best selling mirrorless in the world by a good margin right now." I wish I knew where you get that information because mine is...

camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.

"Canon mirrorless is the best selling mirrorless in the world by a good margin right now." I wish I knew where you get that information because mine is totally different than yours. In this country and according to Amazon it is the Sony A6000 followed by the Sony A6300. In Europe the information I have is that one of the models made by Panasonic is ahead in sales but unfortunately I do not know which one.
Canon and Leica do not seem to be as popular as selling models while Olympus continues to do very well.

gwilliams6

jerryc41 wrote:

Of course people are anxious to see the new Nikon ... (show quote)

Good post jerryc41. (from a pro Nikon and Canon SLR and DSLR shooter for 40 years, yes 40, , who switched to fullframe Sony mirrorless back in January 2017 and has never looked back), Cheers

GAS496 Loc: Arizona

The technology for my preferred camera design has not changed for about 150 years. The Ebony SV810E view camera is a work of art itself, coupled with the best German glass it is as close to perfect as one can get (to me) and no batteries necessary. Well my light meter needs one AA battery. Photography at its simplest. I do love reading all your opinions each day discussing these issues so I can keep one foot in the 21st Century.

ELNikkor

My son's GH4 EV went solid pink a month after he bought it. Too busy with assignments to wait 6 weeks to get it fixed, he's been shooting everything by looking at the back screen for the last 4 years.

TJBNovember Loc: Long Island, New York

Erv wrote:

I am taking my Nikon D750 and all my lenses with me to the grave. Might be a lot of things to look at there.:)

gwilliams6

camerapapi wrote:

"Canon mirrorless is the best selling mirrorl... (show quote)

Numbers can be deceiving, take a closer look. Canon sells more low-end mirrorless worldwide (point-and-shoot, and compact). That is why they are #1 overall. But those numbers are deceiving because in terms of Fullframe mirrorless (where the top tech and pro quality are ),Canon sales are zero. Sony is #1 in fullframe camera sales worldwide (mirrorless and DSLR) with combined sales of their A7,A7II, A7III, A7RII, A7RIII, A7S,A7SII, and A9. Also Sony has the single best selling fullframe camera in the world with its A7III which took that title away from the Nikon D850. When Canon finally gets around to releasing its first fullframe mirrorless camera (probably announced at Photokina, late September, for a 2019 release), Canon will arrive in last place in the fullframe mirrorless market. Sony is way ahead and Nikon is set to announce their own fullframe mirrorless camera on August 23rd, clearly ahead of Canon. Know the facts, folks. Cheers

gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast

I recall reading about a test where they gave P&S's to pros and top end cameras to advanced amateurs. The pros produced better images in all compositions.

hawleyrw Loc: Dayton, OH

There will always be the new technology on the horizon - which doesn’t mean you need to jump on it immediately. But, I understand you’re want to get the most from your ‘older’ device. Personally, I knew mirrorless was on the horizon, but I plan to stay with my standard DSLR. First, mirrorless is just now emerging, which means it won’t be perfected for the next few years. (I went through this with my first digital cameras - most of which are really inferior today), BUT if you’re happy with your current equipment, hang on it and use it.... All of this coming from a gadget freak who usually jumps on the latest tech when it comes available. When I comes to my Canon 6D, I’m happy with it, does all I need and I have significant $$$ invested in it, so I’m sticking to my guns on this one. Unless mirrorless re-invents photography, (which I don’t see in the future), be happy with what you’ve got. You’ve got a great cam with your 5D IV.

gwilliams6

gvarner wrote:

I recall reading about a test where they gave P&S's to pros and top end cameras to advanced amateurs. The pros produced better images in all compositions.

Better skill and photo knowledge will almost always win the day. But better gear does help us pros create our art easier, faster, more accurately and with more creative options. . In mirrorless I can take very good photos with a compact or point and shoot camera, but I also can do much more with the top fullframe cameras and their features that the point and shoot cameras often dont have. Also the larger sensors in the fullframe cameras have huge advantages in image quality, low light performance and less image noise over the small sensors in point and shoot and compact mirrorless cameras. Cheers

gwilliams6

hawleyrw wrote:

There will always be the new technology on the hor... (show quote)

You are incorrect, mirrorless IS perfected now and being used by top pros like myself, all over the world for all kinds of photography. That is why mirrorless sales are up and DSLR sales are dropping fast. I enjoy ALL the distinct advantages of mirrorless cameras every single time I pick up my pro quality fullframe mirrorless cameras. They have features and performance that no DSLR can EVER physically have.

But hey, use what you like and are comfortable with and be happy. No one is asking you to change if you are happy with your DSLR gear. DSLRs will still be around, but will never dominate again. Mirrorless has fully arrived at the top pro levels and Nikon and Canon are set to join Sony in the ring to battle for supremacy at the top. I welcome Nikon and Canon to fullframe mirrorless as real competition will keep them all innovating, and we all win. Cheers

just a few of the pros who have switched from DSLRs to fullframe mirrorless over the past year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtOIz_LT9SM&t=34s
https://petapixel.com/2018/01/23/photographer-david-burnett-switches-sony-40-years-shooting-canon/
https://petapixel.com/2017/05/09/shooting-kentucky-derby-20fps-sony-a9/
https://alphauniverse.com/stories/sony-a9-s-features-unmatched-at-u-s--open/
https://alphauniverse.com/stories/sports-pro-s-gear-for-the-winter-games-in-south-korea/ https://alphasports.pro/
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/features/why-i-switched-canon-sony-colby-brown
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/features/why-i-switched-nikon-sony-matt-kloskowski
https://alphauniverse.com/artisans/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMP4vJr6cGk
http://sonyaddict.com/2018/03/31/luke-massey-swapped-the-canon-eos-1d-x-mark-ii-for-the-sony-a9/ Swapping a Canon EOS 1D X Mark II for a Sony A9 - We speak to wildlife photographer Luke Massey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1IyIE2gAL4&t=169s

jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ

rmorrison1116 wrote:

Everyone, well maybe not every one, is waiting for... (show quote)

The second that I feel that I can't lift my old camera and hold it steady I'm going to buy a mirrorless camera. NOT! I know that there are a lot of people out there that feel that a slightly lighter, slightly smaller camera will do it for them, but the fact is that it's not going to improve my photography or your photography one little iota. Not one IOTA!

As soon as camera manufacturers can produce lenses that have the same exact specs as the full sized DSLR lense offered today that are 1/2 the size and weight but maintain the same exact IQ, I might jump ship. But the facts are that nobody makes a 500mm f/4 or 600mm f/4 or 800mm f/5.6 or 70-200 f/2.8 that is twice as small as the current lenses made for DSLR's that are 1/2 their sizes and weight for a mirrorless camera body. I believe that someday they will make this, and it might be in my life time but I'm not going to hold my breath.

throughrhettseyes Loc: Rowlett, TX

I will say this over and over. A mirrorless camera is nothing but a video camera. Now a DSLR with a flip up monitor in the eyepiece is a good option for seeing the shot in bright sunlight or taking videos in bright sunlight. But not seeing the real life view through the eyepiece of a DSLR is not photography. You might as well just use a cell phone camera. I've been shooting for over 40 years. I have seen change but I am right about the video camera comment. I also am a videographer.

lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA

GAS496 wrote:

The technology for my preferred camera design has not changed for about 150 years. The Ebony SV810E view camera is a work of art itself, coupled with the best German glass it is as close to perfect as one can get (to me) and no batteries necessary. Well my light meter needs one AA battery. Photography at its simplest. I do love reading all your opinions each day discussing these issues so I can keep one foot in the 21st Century.

Mine are not so much works of art in themselves, but I have a worn Gundlach Wooden Field Camera, and a not much used Omega 45F Studio Single-Rail View Camera. I use Schneider and Nikon-W lenses on them. And have a Gossen Luna-Six Meter and Minolta Spotmeter F. Of course I have a heap of digital cameras too. I get you point!

gwilliams6

jeep_daddy wrote:

The second that I feel that I can't lift my old ca... (show quote)

No one is asking you to buy a mirrorless camera. As a pro, yes I enjoy the reduced total weight of my gear since I went from DSLR to mirrorless, BUT I mainly switched for the better image quality and exclusive features like EVF, EYE-AF, True silent shooting, better 4K video, better autofocus in stills and video and a host of other features that help me do a better job of creating my art. Cheers

gwilliams6

throughrhettseyes wrote:

I will say this over and over. A mirrorless camera is nothing but a video camera. Now a DSLR with a flip up monitor in the eyepiece is a good option for seeing the shot in bright sunlight or taking videos in bright sunlight. But not seeing the real life view through the eyepiece of a DSLR is not photography. You might as well just use a cell phone camera. I've been shooting for over 40 years. I have seen change but I am right about the video camera comment. I also am a videographer.

Once you have tried the best EVFs, like I have, I would NEVER ever go back to ANY OVF, ever. Being able to see your ACTUAL exposure, color balance, depth of field, any exposure compensation, histogram , BEFORE you make the shot, is a complete game-changer ! No more chimping either to review my shots, another game-changer for pros. BTW my EVFs and rear screen work great in bright sunlight on my Sony A7RIII and A7III. Mirrorless is photography, and millions of photographers around the world get that, as well as the camera makers. Sorry you don't. Cheers