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Aug 10, 2018 07:39:05   #
rmorrison1116 (a regular here)
 
Everyone, well maybe not every one, is waiting for the big announcement about the soon to be newest MILC cameras from Canon and to some extent, Nikon. There are articles speculating on what the big camera manufacturers have in store and what we should do with our current gear. I read something about Canon finally stepping up to the plate and finally offering a mirrorless camera people will actually buy. I found that article a bit odd and insulting since I own a Canon mirrorless and I'm a person.

So, am I supposed to try to sell my EOS 5D IV on eBay for the best possible price before it's too late, before it's considered next to worthless because everyone else is doing the same thing so they may jump onto the mirrorless bandwagon?! Are the images these MILC'S produce really any better than what I can get out of my D500 or 5DSr? If not then, what's the big deal?

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Aug 10, 2018 07:48:37   #
jerryc41 (a regular here)
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Everyone, well maybe not every one, is waiting for the big announcement about the soon to be newest MILC cameras from Canon and to some extent, Nikon. There are articles speculating on what the big camera manufacturers have in store and what we should do with our current gear. I read something about Canon finally stepping up to the plate and finally offering a mirrorless camera people will actually buy. I found that article a bit odd and insulting since I own a Canon mirrorless and I'm a person.

So, am I supposed to try to sell my EOS 5D IV on eBay for the best possible price before it's too late, before it's considered next to worthless because everyone else is doing the same thing so they may jump onto the mirrorless bandwagon?! Are the images these MILC'S produce really any better than what I can get out of my D500 or 5DSr? If not then, what's the big deal?
Everyone, well maybe not every one, is waiting for... (show quote)


Of course people are anxious to see the new Nikon (and maybe the Canon, as well). It's a big move by a big company into the next king of the camera world - FF mirrorless.

Yes, you are supposed to sell your DSLRs right away. Didn't your get the letter??!!

Regardless what any company introduces, there will always be a market for quality cameras, DSLR or mirrorless. Sell it or keep it. It's your choice. Of course, the longer you keep it, the lower the resale value will be. Nothing new about that.

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Aug 10, 2018 08:07:14   #
Erv
 
I am taking my Nikon D750 and all my lenses with me to the grave. Might be a lot of things to look at there.:)

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Aug 10, 2018 08:07:40   #
NCMtnMan
 
Until my camera becomes the problem with my photography or my skills exceed my camera's capabilities, I'll stick with my DSLR.

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Aug 10, 2018 08:18:30   #
joer (a regular here)
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Everyone, well maybe not every one, is waiting for the big announcement about the soon to be newest MILC cameras from Canon and to some extent, Nikon. There are articles speculating on what the big camera manufacturers have in store and what we should do with our current gear. I read something about Canon finally stepping up to the plate and finally offering a mirrorless camera people will actually buy. I found that article a bit odd and insulting since I own a Canon mirrorless and I'm a person.

So, am I supposed to try to sell my EOS 5D IV on eBay for the best possible price before it's too late, before it's considered next to worthless because everyone else is doing the same thing so they may jump onto the mirrorless bandwagon?! Are the images these MILC'S produce really any better than what I can get out of my D500 or 5DSr? If not then, what's the big deal?
Everyone, well maybe not every one, is waiting for... (show quote)


In experienced hands the results are indistinguishable at this point, but they are more feature rich and make the whole process less cumbersome.

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Aug 10, 2018 08:25:21   #
rmorrison1116 (a regular here)
 
NCMtnMan wrote:
Until my camera becomes the problem with my photography or my skills exceed my camera's capabilities, I'll stick with my DSLR.


I agree with you and Erv. I bought the mirrorless to see for myself what they're all about. Don't get me wrong, I like my EOS M50, it's a nice little camera but, I like my DSLR'S more. I'm not concerned about the resale value of the DSLR'S I currently use. When it's time to replace them, it will go into the display cabinet along with all the others that came before it.

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Aug 10, 2018 08:32:42   #
cedymock
 
Please correct me if I do not get this 100% right;
Image improvement is not the big deal with mirrorless it’s the removal of a mechanical mechanisms that must be recalibrated to continue quality photographs along with the lightweight of camera and lenses.

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Aug 10, 2018 10:16:35   #
Rongnongno
 
Sell all of it and go back to a black box. (kidding)

A question thought... WHY do you pay attention to rumors? You are happy with your camera? Keep it.

Do you change your spouse because a newer/younger model surgically modified comes out?

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Aug 10, 2018 10:22:18   #
steve DeMott
 
Rongnongno wrote:


Do you change your spouse because a newer/younger model surgically modifiied come out?


YES!! We would like to.


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Aug 10, 2018 12:33:47   #
Selene03
 
Unfortunately, the hype makes it difficult to have a serious conversation about the strengths and weaknesses of mirrorless alternatives to dslrs.

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Aug 10, 2018 13:20:34   #
jackpinoh
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Everyone, well maybe not every one, is waiting for the big announcement about the soon to be newest MILC cameras from Canon and to some extent, Nikon. There are articles speculating on what the big camera manufacturers have in store and what we should do with our current gear. I read something about Canon finally stepping up to the plate and finally offering a mirrorless camera people will actually buy. I found that article a bit odd and insulting since I own a Canon mirrorless and I'm a person.

So, am I supposed to try to sell my EOS 5D IV on eBay for the best possible price before it's too late, before it's considered next to worthless because everyone else is doing the same thing so they may jump onto the mirrorless bandwagon?! Are the images these MILC'S produce really any better than what I can get out of my D500 or 5DSr? If not then, what's the big deal?
Everyone, well maybe not every one, is waiting for... (show quote)

The mirror in a DSLR has become a limiting factor in the development of higher frame rates and contributes to vibration blur at some shutter speeds as well as potential front and back alignment issues. The added mirror and mirror mechanism hardware also increases the cost of the camera. What-you-see-is-what-you-get in the viewfinder is a plus for mirrorless cameras and is not possible with a DSLR, though some prefer an optical viewfinder.

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Aug 10, 2018 13:46:27   #
NCMtnMan
 
jackpinoh wrote:
The mirror in a DSLR has become a limiting factor in the development of higher frame rates and contributes to vibration blur at some shutter speeds as well as potential front and back alignment issues. The added mirror and mirror mechanism hardware also increases the cost of the camera. What-you-see-is-what-you-get in the viewfinder is a plus for mirrorless cameras and is not possible with a DSLR, though some prefer an optical viewfinder.


This is no knock against mirrorless, but merely for clarification. So, if I understand what you're saying, if I don't shoot in burst mode, use mirror up before taking the shot and use live view, then a mirrorless camera will not bring that much to the table for me. As for cost, I haven't seen any of the better mirrorless that are particularly cheaper than the better DSLR's.

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Aug 10, 2018 13:53:10   #
Bill_de (a regular here)
 
Erv wrote:
I am taking my Nikon D750 and all my lenses with me to the grave. Might be a lot of things to look at there.:)


Hopefully it will be very, very old by then.

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Aug 10, 2018 16:08:40   #
crazydaddio
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Everyone, well maybe not every one, is waiting for the big announcement about the soon to be newest MILC cameras from Canon and to some extent, Nikon. There are articles speculating on what the big camera manufacturers have in store and what we should do with our current gear. I read something about Canon finally stepping up to the plate and finally offering a mirrorless camera people will actually buy. I found that article a bit odd and insulting since I own a Canon mirrorless and I'm a person.

So, am I supposed to try to sell my EOS 5D IV on eBay for the best possible price before it's too late, before it's considered next to worthless because everyone else is doing the same thing so they may jump onto the mirrorless bandwagon?! Are the images these MILC'S produce really any better than what I can get out of my D500 or 5DSr? If not then, what's the big deal?
Everyone, well maybe not every one, is waiting for... (show quote)


1) Reliable EYE-AF in low light.
2) Faster fps 10+
3) Adapter for my L lenses. (and works like new mount native lenses !!)
....all other features are 'meh'. (like to have a flippy screen but I will live...)

under $2500.
...you got my money Canon.
otherwise, you run the risk of me going to Sony.
...waiting for your call....

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Aug 10, 2018 16:29:29   #
Haydon (a regular here)
 
The talk is really interesting with the speculation of the new Nikon barrel mount. It 's speculated you will be seeing F0.95 lenses on a full-frame mount because the opening is huge. A limiting factor for fast glass will no longer be a consideration. I suspect Nikon will step it up and produce something special. Many are watching and waiting. This is a really important move. This cannot be a failed effort and considering their new emphasis on quality high end products I cannot see it be anything less that spectacular if they want a full rebound..

More interesting to see is what Canon will or will not do. They are notoriously slow and conservative but companies trying to build their market share don't care about cannibalizing the product line anymore. Could be a turning point for the big three in so many ways.

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