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Aug 9, 2018 15:49:02   #
lsupremo Loc: Palm Desert, CA
 
Ok you real estate Hoggers, which of my lens on my Nikon D7100 would yo use for inside panorama photos?

1. Nikkor DX 18-140mm, 1:3.5-5.6 set to around 18mm.
2. Tokina SD 11-16mm, f2.8 DX set around 13 to 15mm.

My concerns are primarily about distortion and sharpness.

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Aug 9, 2018 16:02:30   #
Just Fred Loc: Darwin's Waiting Room
 
I'd use the 11-16mm, given the DX nature of your D7100.

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Aug 9, 2018 16:10:36   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I'd use 1, but not set at 18mm. I'd set it more to something around 30mm. This will avoid a lot of possible distortion inherently caused by extreme wide angle lenses. In the few times I've done interior photography where I needed wider than a 20mm lens (FX), I resorted a 50mm or 85mm instead.
--Bob

lsupremo wrote:
Ok you real estate Hoggers, which of my lens on my Nikon D7100 would yo use for inside panorama photos?

1. Nikkor DX 18-140mm, 1:3.5-5.6 set to around 18mm.
2. Tokina SD 11-16mm, f2.8 DX set around 13 to 15mm.

My concerns are primarily about distortion and sharpness.

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Aug 9, 2018 16:11:29   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
lsupremo wrote:
Ok you real estate Hoggers, which of my lens on my Nikon D7100 would yo use for inside panorama photos?

1. Nikkor DX 18-140mm, 1:3.5-5.6 set to around 18mm.
2. Tokina SD 11-16mm, f2.8 DX set around 13 to 15mm.

My concerns are primarily about distortion and sharpness.


Neither. Forget getting an entire room in one image, you have to shoot multiples for and stitch panoramas. The 18-140 isn't fast enough, and the 11-16 will distort on the 11 mm end. I had to capture a large living room for a Designer, and ended up doing a 5 shot panorama that I stitched together in Lightroom. My 16-35 distorted vertices which I could not easily correct, so I went with the 24-70.

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Aug 9, 2018 16:14:24   #
Shutterbug57
 
lsupremo wrote:
Ok you real estate Hoggers, which of my lens on my Nikon D7100 would yo use for inside panorama photos?

1. Nikkor DX 18-140mm, 1:3.5-5.6 set to around 18mm.
2. Tokina SD 11-16mm, f2.8 DX set around 13 to 15mm.

My concerns are primarily about distortion and sharpness.


The number 1 concern has to be getting as much content into the shot as possible. Realtors and buyers want to see as much of the rooms as possible. Not sure if the D7100 has in-camera distortion elimination routines, but if it does, I would use them and go with the Tokina.

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Aug 9, 2018 16:17:03   #
Shutterbug57
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Neither. Forget getting an entire room in one image, you have to shoot multiples for and stitch panoramas. The 18-140 isn't fast enough, and the 11-16 will distort on the 11 mm end. I had to capture a large living room for a Designer, and ended up doing a 5 shot panorama that I stitched together in Lightroom. My 16-35 distorted vertices which I could not easily correct, so I went with the 24-70.


That will work, and work well. Not sure what the rate for shooting a house is in your or the OP's neck of the woods, but around here, if you took that approach for every room, you would not be making minimum wage.

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Aug 9, 2018 16:30:34   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
My interest is in working for agents who are willing to pay for quality. I avoid, like the plague, those who seem to think their iPhone will work just fine. When I do interior, or exterior, work, I do quite alright as far in income.

There is one individual for whom I occasionally shoot. He refurbishes and customizes motor homes. These are touring bus type conversions. I charge him nothing up front. When the unit sells, I get a percentage of the sale price. That works out quite well.
--Bob
Shutterbug57 wrote:
That will work, and work well. Not sure what the rate for shooting a house is in your or the OP's neck of the woods, but around here, if you took that approach for every room, you would not be making minimum wage.

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Aug 9, 2018 18:23:47   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
lsupremo wrote:
Ok you real estate Hoggers, which of my lens on my Nikon D7100 would yo use for inside panorama photos?

1. Nikkor DX 18-140mm, 1:3.5-5.6 set to around 18mm.
2. Tokina SD 11-16mm, f2.8 DX set around 13 to 15mm.

My concerns are primarily about distortion and sharpness.


To answer your concerns - the shorter the focal length the greater the distortion. You can avoid keystoning, where you have converging verticals or horizontals by carefully setting up your camera. But the really wide lenses all suffer from extension and volume distortion.

That being said, there will be times when you have no choice but to shoot an image at 11mm or less.

My typical solution is to shoot a pano with a longer focal length, and if necessary focus stack the pano for greater depth of field. This pretty much eliminates the extension distortion and volume deformation. It's a simple matter to shoot and stitch a pano, even one that is focus stacked. You need some discipline and a solid shooting workflow to make it happen, but the results are worth it. Now if you are shooting RE and only getting $100 per house, use the ultrawide and move on. The RE people won't pay for good photography, so don't waste your time. Fast and dirty = cheap, and that is what they want.

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Aug 9, 2018 18:32:43   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
lsupremo wrote:
Ok you real estate Hoggers, which of my lens on my Nikon D7100 would yo use for inside panorama photos?

1. Nikkor DX 18-140mm, 1:3.5-5.6 set to around 18mm.
2. Tokina SD 11-16mm, f2.8 DX set around 13 to 15mm.

My concerns are primarily about distortion and sharpness.


The 18-140 set to 24mm - manual focus and locked aperture, portrait orientation.......

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Aug 9, 2018 18:35:14   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Gene51 wrote:
Now if you are shooting RE and only getting $100 per house, use the ultrawide and move on. The RE people won't pay for good photography, so don't waste your time. Fast and dirty = cheap, and that is what they want.




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Aug 9, 2018 23:09:53   #
Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx
 
I've posted this before. I have a Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 lens on a D7200 (DX) body. I took some pics of a brick wall at 10, 15, and 20mm and pulled them up in Lightroom Classic CC. There was some distortion, but it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, but I applied the lens correction factors and the distortion and CA disappeared completely. So, I don't worry about distortion on wide angle lenses - go for the 11-16 IF your software has lens correction.

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Aug 10, 2018 00:35:54   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
Shutterbug57 wrote:
That will work, and work well. Not sure what the rate for shooting a house is in your or the OP's neck of the woods, but around here, if you took that approach for every room, you would not be making minimum wage.

Anyone who has to ask such a question here can scarcely be expected to have the qualifications to command a professional's compensation.

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Aug 10, 2018 01:24:00   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Shutterbug57 wrote:
That will work, and work well. Not sure what the rate for shooting a house is in your or the OP's neck of the woods, but around here, if you took that approach for every room, you would not be making minimum wage.


In Southern California, one of the hottest real estate markets in the US, a complete photography package with stills, video, drones and web page development can cost $3500. This home was also professionally staged with furnishings and accessorized matched to enhance the property:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG77I4pqHMU&t=23s

The realtor is my Nephew.

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Aug 10, 2018 04:33:33   #
Shutterbug57
 
Leitz wrote:
Anyone who has to ask such a question here can scarcely be expected to have the qualifications to command a professional's compensation.


I did not ask a question. Anyone who understands English would see that I wrote 2 statements.

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Aug 10, 2018 04:36:31   #
Shutterbug57
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
In Southern California, one of the hottest real estate markets in the US, a complete photography package with stills, video, drones and web page development can cost $3500. This home was also professionally staged with furnishings and accessorized matched to enhance the property:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG77I4pqHMU&t=23s

The realtor is my Nephew.


There is a number that would be interesting. Of course your average house in So. Cal. goes for much more than here in flyover country, so there is more commission to share.

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