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Aug 9, 2018 00:16:22   #
Shootist Loc: Wyoming
 
Thanks for the input.
Acountry330 wrote:
First off nice shot. Second try not to over process. Three better equipment does at times helps. I have the big Sigma lens that I use on a D-7000 and D-800 and it produced some really nice images. About a year ago I bought the Nikkor 200-500 5.6 6.3. I believe the Big Nikkor produces more keepers than the Sigma, if I do my part. I also think it is an excellent up grade. Try using a higher shutter speed 500 or better. Happy Shooting.

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Aug 9, 2018 05:49:02   #
Hammer Loc: London UK
 
That is a really great photo when opened in download. I think that you may have caught perfectionism . I have a dose . Whatever I do its never good enough . Meanwhile other people are happy with results ( in other things as well) that are not acceptable me .

There is a local restaurant we go to , called Haywards near Epping in Essex. A really great restaurant . The have blown up photos on the wall of scenes from a local forest in which I live. I looked at them and thought most of them were not acceptable . However , they are on the wall and my photos are still in my Lightroom library waiting for more work. Perhaps we are too harsh on ourselves.

Suggest you hire any intended purchases before succumbing to GAS.

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Aug 9, 2018 05:55:42   #
SafariGuy
 
Shootist wrote:
Your opinion please, am I just having a GAS attack or would a better lens up my game?


That is s great shot...as someone mentioned ‘catch light’ in the eye would have been great but birds tend not to take posing suggestions very well. GAS is a problem most of us deal with...but not sure how it would have improved an already ‘great’ image.

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Aug 9, 2018 06:28:44   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Shootist wrote:
Going back over bird shots I have taken, the best observation I can make about them is that some are good but very few (if any) are outstanding. While technique in both taking the shot and PP are always going to be a work in progress for me, I am wondering if I am at the point where my ability is being hampered by my equipment. I am considering trading in my Sigma 150-600 mm f 5-6.3C for a Nikon 200-500 f5.6. Attached is an image typical for what I consider my best efforts in shots and PP. Your opinion please, am I just having a GAS attack or would a better lens up my game?

Image shot with Nikon D7100 and Sigma 150-600mm f5-6.3C. Focal length 600mm, f6.3, 1/320 sec, ISO 200. PP with PhotoNinja with final touchup in GIMP and cropped to 2027x1351pix size.

Sorry, I was using a Nikon D7100 vs the D750, my bad!
Going back over bird shots I have taken, the best ... (show quote)

When shooting at extremes and wide open your chances for out of focus increase. Two of my friends in Florida had your exact equipment and were not satisfied like yourself.
Solution for both, they bought the D500 and the 200-500 mm lens. I could not believe how fast they progressed in their image capture. They, like myself, use GROUP AUTO FOCUS, which unfortunately is not available on the D7100. I use this all the time and on my 200-500 I shoot most of my shots at f6.3, almost wide open.
I know this is not want you want to hear but I too was not happy with the images I got with my D7200, when the D7500 came out I had anticipated they would include GROUP AUTO FOCUS, but it did not. I had this on my D4s but wanted more reach with the crop sensor. Fortunately the D500 has it and so that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Below is an example of the D500 and group auto focus and a young Night Heron at Green Cay Florida. Good luck and keep on shooting until the end.



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Aug 9, 2018 06:46:36   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Shootist wrote:
Going back over bird shots I have taken, the best observation I can make about them is that some are good but very few (if any) are outstanding. While technique in both taking the shot and PP are always going to be a work in progress for me, I am wondering if I am at the point where my ability is being hampered by my equipment. I am considering trading in my Sigma 150-600 mm f 5-6.3C for a Nikon 200-500 f5.6. Attached is an image typical for what I consider my best efforts in shots and PP. Your opinion please, am I just having a GAS attack or would a better lens up my game?

Image shot with Nikon D7100 and Sigma 150-600mm f5-6.3C. Focal length 600mm, f6.3, 1/320 sec, ISO 200. PP with PhotoNinja with final touchup in GIMP and cropped to 2027x1351pix size.

Sorry, I was using a Nikon D7100 vs the D750, my bad!
Going back over bird shots I have taken, the best ... (show quote)


It's hard to fault that shot. It looks very good when zooming in. For 600mm at f/6.3 that's very good.

As for getting a new camera, that's a different topic. Getting a new camera makes the owner feel good and can energize his photography. A new Nikon would definitely have advantages over the D7100. Try some comparisons and see what differences there are between the D7100 and others. I've gone through a lot of cameras, but I'm sticking with my D750. I don't care what Nikon introduces. I'm keeping the D750.

Read comparisons and specs, and decide what features are important to you.
(Reviews) https://www.youtube.com/user/TheCameraStoreTV/videos
http://www.cameradecision.com/
http://cameras.reviewed.com/
http://camerasize.com/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
http://snapsort.com/compare
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_medium=text&ref=mainmenu

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Aug 9, 2018 08:02:07   #
Low Budget Dave
 
The picture is fine. I recommend you change you post-processing a bit. The bird in the image is too dark, and leaves you with too little contrast. Also, if you don't have an eye-light on a bird at that range, then you should create a fake one.

My apologies for the quick-and-dirty edit job here. Someone with time and talent could do much better. I tried to add sunlight on his head and on the wire in front of him. I tried to add shadow underneath. It is kind of a mess, but hopefully it is enough to make the point.



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Aug 9, 2018 08:26:25   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Shootist wrote:
Going back over bird shots I have taken, the best observation I can make about them is that some are good but very few (if any) are outstanding. While technique in both taking the shot and PP are always going to be a work in progress for me, I am wondering if I am at the point where my ability is being hampered by my equipment. I am considering trading in my Sigma 150-600 mm f 5-6.3C for a Nikon 200-500 f5.6. Attached is an image typical for what I consider my best efforts in shots and PP. Your opinion please, am I just having a GAS attack or would a better lens up my game?

Image shot with Nikon D7100 and Sigma 150-600mm f5-6.3C. Focal length 600mm, f6.3, 1/320 sec, ISO 200. PP with PhotoNinja with final touchup in GIMP and cropped to 2027x1351pix size.

Sorry, I was using a Nikon D7100 vs the D750, my bad!
Going back over bird shots I have taken, the best ... (show quote)


I think your image, lens and camera are just fine. The post processing could be much better. I don't know Gimp but suspect it doesn't apply camera and lens profiles which makes all the difference in the world. The raw editor is just as important as the equipment.

You may want to consider Lightroom Classic or Capture One. Lightroom is less expensive and is easier to learn. The subscription also provides Photoshop the king of the editors but is difficult to learn.

I prefer Capture One for Sony since that is my camera of choice. In my opinion the learning curve is harder than LR but not hard as PS. I use all three to some extent.

A quick tweak in LR. Starting with a raw image would be better. Also your composition is good too. Its called Rule of "Symmetry" and has the side benefit of using the best part of the lens.


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Aug 9, 2018 08:37:08   #
alf85 Loc: Northumberland, UK.
 
It is like rpavich say's it not the gear, it's what you do with it.
Regards, Alfie.

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Aug 9, 2018 08:43:58   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Nothing wrong with the image you have posted. To my taste it is a little cold and since you are looking for opinions I warm it a little bit to taste and add some sharpness that was lost due to compression.
Do not expect that the Nikon 200-500 f5,6 VR will change radically your photography and do not expect that the D750 will do better than your D7100. Cameras and lenses are only tools.
I would have shot this bird at ISO 800, not 200. Your shutter speed would have been higher with a sharper aperture of the lens although I have nothing against your image.
You have a great lens, I do not see reasons to buy anything else although in my experience when someone has GAS and wants to buy a camera or a lens that person ends up buying it.
Improve your techniques and you will be entirely satisfied with your bird photography.



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Aug 9, 2018 08:46:09   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
rpavich wrote:
Nope. It's always about getting better as a photographer and not getting more gear.

You are having a G.A.S. attack.

Shoot more, spend less.


If your gear was junk I might disagree with the above response. But, you have good gear, so "shoot more" sounds like good advice.

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Aug 9, 2018 08:47:28   #
BDABob Loc: Tomkins Cove, NY
 
Nice shot. I took the liberty of a some quick PP in LR Classic (about 20 secs).


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Aug 9, 2018 08:58:39   #
spraguead Loc: Boston, MA
 
That's a pretty nice shot, but here are a few thoughts;
1) Lens, I wouldn't think that going to the 500mm lens is going to help you in any way. Your shot was taken at the 600mm end of your current lens, plush you cropped, so you should stay put on the equipment end.

2) Tonality. The photo could use a bit of pp help. Take a look at the histogram, almost all of the file info is in the mid tones. Bringing up the darks will help a bit. To not rely so much on post for making your images pop more is to have some basic presets for the type of photography you're engaged in. Check out Ken Rockwell's site, see some of his settings on his review of the 7100; https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/d7100.htm
He even has a settings file to download at the bottom of that page. I usually keep one or two of his settings on my camera, they're much better than using the Nokon "scenes", and you can still adjust from these to compensate for the situation you're in when shooting.

3) composition. Yet another skill to learn. Look at photos that you really like, see where the subject is in scene, and try to eye it in an almost abstract form. There can be a more dynamic design to the shot by not cnetering subject with equal space all around.

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Aug 9, 2018 09:22:02   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Shootist wrote:
Going back over bird shots I have taken, the best observation I can make about them is that some are good but very few (if any) are outstanding. While technique in both taking the shot and PP are always going to be a work in progress for me, I am wondering if I am at the point where my ability is being hampered by my equipment. I am considering trading in my Sigma 150-600 mm f 5-6.3C for a Nikon 200-500 f5.6. Attached is an image typical for what I consider my best efforts in shots and PP. Your opinion please, am I just having a GAS attack or would a better lens up my game?

Image shot with Nikon D7100 and Sigma 150-600mm f5-6.3C. Focal length 600mm, f6.3, 1/320 sec, ISO 200. PP with PhotoNinja with final touchup in GIMP and cropped to 2027x1351pix size.

Sorry, I was using a Nikon D7100 vs the D750, my bad!
Going back over bird shots I have taken, the best ... (show quote)


Your Bluebird image seems OK generally - no wow factor tho ....I hope you were using support of some kind with a 320 shutter ! Your image seems quite dark/dull on my monitor - so I would question your PP software/knowledge - there is room for improvement here. I also hope you have done a focus calibration with your lens/body ??...... In short, at this point you have GAS.

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Aug 9, 2018 09:37:23   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
In my opinion, your issue is not equipment in this example, its more about exposure and poor light. Looking at the histogram, it looks like the bird is underexposed by at least 1 stop. The underexposure can also account for the lack of feather detail as well as the amount fo noise in the image. Also, for moving subjects, especially with long lenses, you need to get your shutter speed up. Even the best of bird photographers would have trouble at 1/320 even with a perched subject. My suggestion, work toward having data to the right in the histogram and you will see your images improve. In this example, moving your iso up to 800 would allow a shutter speed of over 1/1000 and most of the time you should be able to shoot wide open unless you are really close to your subject. Try working on your techniques and then decide whether to upgrade your equipment.

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Aug 9, 2018 09:40:20   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
You have to improve your artistic vision BEFORE THE SHOT in order to move beyond the snapshot stage. My gear is not my main limitation, it's my creativity and limited artistic vision.

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