DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

With that rationale, the original post should have included sources, so it is therefore reasonable to object, which I did. If every statement on the forum needed sources of info, there wouldn't be much posting occurring.

We have witnessed many times that references or sources are usually scoffed at as politically biased. I wasn't remotely political and accused of being a hating liberal, lol.

In the time it took to get into a pissing contest, a little personal research effort could have been performed, but this is the often politically motivated Hogg.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Active Duty & Reserves have aprx 1.9 million children, 1.3 million school age, 765,000 have parents on active duty, aprx 225,000 had parent(s) deployed when this was written and 2001 to 2012 over 700,000 children have had one or both parents (yes some couples are both military) deployed at least once.
My brother did 23.5 years, he had 3 children but they were lucky he was mostly deployed to Germany (several years in South Korea also) where his family could go with him.
Hmmm? I wonder how many deployed in the 6 years since this was written?

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Exactly! Now how many of the children have parents that fit the category described in the OP? "And 765,000 kids are separated from their military parents not knowing if they’ll see them again."

Presumably the reference of fear is for those having parents serving in dangerous zones.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

That would be ideal for a formal debate etc. This wasn't, until people started to question - then sources were needed.

30 seconds to find the latest for 2017
http://www.defense.gov/News/Special-Reports/0417_militarychild/

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Easy as pie! Made my point, but again, how many fit the category described in the original post?

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

And as to the illegal vs legal immigrant question over all. Want to guess which people I know are the most "anti" i*****l i*******t - don't strain I'll supply the answer: The ones who are legal immigrants and their attitude is more or less "I had to go through the whole process and be on a waiting list to come here so why the %^$#@ can't they?"

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

I've done the research. We're not talking about deployments, we're talking specifically about current fear, kids with parents in harms way.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

No, it started out as "children separated from their parents". Nothing said about parents in harms way that I remember - I'll go back and reread the posts to double check.

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

I know we're both busy doing other things, lol. I will again provide the original statement: "And 765,000 kids are separated from their military parents not knowing if they’ll see them again."

My contention is that apprehension would be mostly for those having parents in hot spots. The vast majority of the military, as I'm sure you know, have regular work hours at regular jobs.

hj Loc: Florida

So, if they came without their parents, they didn't get ripped from the family did they????

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Found it, guess who introduced it - You!

As to the statement about the kids wondering if they will see their parents again - that is any kid separated from their parent(s). They generally don't follow why Mom or Dad isn't here or if they are in danger or just gone - just the fact they aren't here is what the little kids understand and worry about.

One of our sons is mentally impaired - mentally he is a five years old (on a good day) living in a 26 year old body. My wife has been gone 6 days and will be back about Aug 12 or so. Two or three times a day he asks "Will I ever see Mom again?" It doesn't matter how many times he is told that Mom went to get his sister settled into Medical School at UVA and will fly home from Virginia after the "White Coat" ceremony Aug 10th. All he comprehends is Mom is gone. It is pretty much the same with all those other kids.

hj Loc: Florida

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Are you lumping BLOGS with NEWSPAPERS???
Your joking right? LoL
Most BLOGS are little more than a retired guy with a BIG mouth and time to sit on his ASS and bang out his opinions on a computer and hopes enough people read it to make advertising money.
Newspapers either have investigative reporters that check and double check sources before printing them or smaller papers get there big stories from the big boys so their content has already been checked.
Unless you subsbribe to and believe the PUTOS that anything besides Fux News is F**E!
If it’s the latter at least don’t embarrass the teaching profession by identifying as such!!!
SS

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Lol, so you have supporting evidence that military and civilian kids are pretty much the same. That would make the original statement a moot point if everyone is pretty much the same. I would expect that you know I was referencing the original post as portraying those who had parents that might not come home. I feel that you are straying from the intent of the original post and if you go there, then there is little difference between civilians and military when it comes to kids fears. If you feel that 765,000 is a valid number and that it represents the intent, fine. I expected something a little more scientific from a retired teacher, but I'm married to one. I was looking at number of military deployed overseas in dangerous zones, which is a very small percentage of our forces.

Have a good night!

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

[quote=DaveO]I know we're both busy doing other things, lol.* I will again provide the original statement: "And 765,000 kids are* were separated from their military parents not knowing if they’ll see them again."

My contention is that apprehension would be mostly for those having parents in hot spots. The vast majority of the military, as I'm sure you know, have regular work hours at regular jobs.[/quote

*Speak for yourself, I've been retired 11 years 28 days, but who's counting?
As to most of the military having regular jobs at regular hours - to me that is a rumor - I was in Nam over 2 years of my 3 year enlistment. And my oldest son did 6 years as a combat engineer, 1 in Iraq and over 2 attached to the special forces HQ at Fort Bragg and is now a semi-active Reservest in Civil Affairs (Special Forces who deal with locals and their governments, means they try to make friends before they start shooting.) He is also his company jump master and just went to Path Finder school. He spends about 3 months or more a year off doing Army things. He, my wife and daughter all belong to Team Rubicon (volunteer disaster response started and mostly made up of veterans and/or friends and family members. Started here in the US and now in several allied and friendly nations) and my son and daughter were deployed to Houston after the hurricane. Jasmine's team in Houston included an Aussie Veteran who was in the US when Harvey hit and he reported in to a local TR unit to volunteer. All three have been deployed to do fire relief here in California in the last year.
So, nope, I and my family don't know much about regular jobs in the military on regular hours.