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Jul 20, 2018 14:16:29   #
scooper44 Loc: Layton UT
 
Greetings! I have been reading and learning from this site for six or seven months but have not posted any questions talk now. I have read with interest the several posts on light room , Photoshop and others. My question is have any of you tried or use ACdsee? It comes in a basic and intermediate and professional? Versions. Some of the online comments compare it to light room and has favorable comments. Just wondered if any of you have tried the free trial or use this software. If so, what do you think of it?

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Jul 20, 2018 14:49:54   #
LCD
 
ACDSee was, in fact, my very first photo editor/organizer. It seems to be a reasonably good clone of Lightroom (LR), which I also own and use. I use it mostly as picture viewer and organizer, mostly for my downloaded stock of internet images. I find it to be a superior viewer/organizers than LR, accepting a wide variety of file types. Unlike LR it does not us its own proprietary file system for the images it manipulates, and does not create its own catalogues. It is more intuitive and is easier to learn. ACDSee offers a subscription service with free updates, but the traditional 'forever' license is readily available. I don't use its editing functions often these day because I've learned all of LR keystroke shortcuts and other tricks. But I miss ACDSee's straightforward controls. I find that ACDSee lags somewhat behind LR and Photoshop in adding some of Adobe's new and more advance features, but that doesn't seem to be a serious limitation. In the past I have had ACDSee become unstable when I ask too much of it, then will needs to shut it down and restart. The newer versions, however, seem much improved. I also had LR go down on me. If you get it, don't pay full price. ACDSee has seem to offer good sales on its products and upgrades.

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Jul 20, 2018 16:03:45   #
scooper44 Loc: Layton UT
 
Thank you very much for a very informative reply. I certainly agree with what you have said and I may end up getting this because I want it primarily for organizing and cataloging. Best wishes to you!

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Jul 21, 2018 08:12:39   #
Nikon1201
 
You will find tons more info on LR and PS and also On1 one Photo Raw on utube than any other program

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Jul 21, 2018 08:37:38   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
LCD wrote:
ACDSee was, in fact, my very first photo editor/organizer. It seems to be a reasonably good clone of Lightroom (LR), which I also own and use. I use it mostly as picture viewer and organizer, mostly for my downloaded stock of internet images. I find it to be a superior viewer/organizers than LR, accepting a wide variety of file types. Unlike LR it does not us its own proprietary file system for the images it manipulates, and does not create its own catalogues. It is more intuitive and is easier to learn. ACDSee offers a subscription service with free updates, but the traditional 'forever' license is readily available. I don't use its editing functions often these day because I've learned all of LR keystroke shortcuts and other tricks. But I miss ACDSee's straightforward controls. I find that ACDSee lags somewhat behind LR and Photoshop in adding some of Adobe's new and more advance features, but that doesn't seem to be a serious limitation. In the past I have had ACDSee become unstable when I ask too much of it, then will needs to shut it down and restart. The newer versions, however, seem much improved. I also had LR go down on me. If you get it, don't pay full price. ACDSee has seem to offer good sales on its products and upgrades.
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Great review and summary of ACDSee.
Mark

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Jul 21, 2018 11:39:00   #
louparker Loc: Scottsdale, AZ
 
scooper44 wrote:
Greetings! I have been reading and learning from this site for six or seven months but have not posted any questions talk now. I have read with interest the several posts on light room , Photoshop and others. My question is have any of you tried or use ACdsee? It comes in a basic and intermediate and professional? Versions. Some of the online comments compare it to light room and has favorable comments. Just wondered if any of you have tried the free trial or use this software. If so, what do you think of it?
Greetings! I have been reading and learning from t... (show quote)


I have and use exclusively the latest version of ACDSee, Photo Studio Professional 2018, and have used ACDSee's predecessor versions going back at least 10 years or so. As one poster said, the earlier versions were a little unstable and did crash occasionally, mainly because they depleted available RAM. However, the current version (it used to be called ACDSee Pro(x)), doesn't seem to have that problem. I think it's great and would never consider switching to anything else -- it does everything, a lot more than just cataloging and organizing, which I do myself anyway by creating various folders, and is a great RAW editor and converter. FYI, there are 2 "Pro" versions, the one I use and ACDSee Professional Ultimate 2018, with the only difference being as far as I can tell is that Ultimate also allows you to use layers whereas Studio does not. Until the latest iterations, ACDSee has never used layers, but if you want or need that feature, then definitely go with Studio, which is the only version of ACDSee that uses layers, which truly makes it a lot closer to the full Photoshop but at a fraction of the cost. And, I do not use the subscription model either just because I see no need for that. BTW, ACDSee Studio Pro, the version I use, has both non-destructive editing (the "Develop" mode) and permanent editing (the "Edit" mode, which has more editing features than the Develop mode). I use both, first I use the Develop mode for my RAW images (although you can also use it for JPEGs as well), and then after I save the "developed" image to a JPEG, I do further editing in the "Edit" mode. Even though the edits done in the "Edit" mode are not non-destructive (pardon the double negative), you can always use the "Restore" feature to go back to your original JPEG. Overall, I think it has become a great and pretty complete post-procesing program. Can't say anything about what you call their "intermediate" versions, because I've never used them, but I'm sure they, too, are very good but with fewer features but still competitively priced.

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Jul 21, 2018 12:09:06   #
scooper44 Loc: Layton UT
 
Thanks for your comments. I believe I will go with your recommendations on the β€œPro” version. Even their free try out of the basic edition was worthwhile and got me interested.

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Jul 21, 2018 12:12:15   #
Don W-37 Loc: Bangkok, Thailand
 
I have ACDSee Pro 2018 and frequently use it for minor editing. Have used various versions for years. I'm happy with it, but must disclose that I'm old school and I'm not into heavy duty post processing. From my viewpoint, layers is computer art, not photography. I'm signing off and donning my flack jacket! 😊

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Jul 21, 2018 13:23:27   #
louparker Loc: Scottsdale, AZ
 
Don W-37 wrote:
I have ACDSee Pro 2018 and frequently use it for minor editing. Have used various versions for years. I'm happy with it, but must disclose that I'm old school and I'm not into heavy duty post processing. From my viewpoint, layers is computer art, not photography. I'm signing off and donning my flack jacket! 😊


Again, there are 2 "Pro" versions, "Studio" and "Ultimate." The "Studio" version does NOT use layers, the "Ultimate" version does.

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Jul 21, 2018 19:19:33   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Years ago, probably the late 90s I used ACDsee. It was rudimentary and I quickly outgrew its limited capabilities. I then discovered Photoshop, that one processing program has filled the bill since around 2003.
--Bob
scooper44 wrote:
Greetings! I have been reading and learning from this site for six or seven months but have not posted any questions talk now. I have read with interest the several posts on light room , Photoshop and others. My question is have any of you tried or use ACdsee? It comes in a basic and intermediate and professional? Versions. Some of the online comments compare it to light room and has favorable comments. Just wondered if any of you have tried the free trial or use this software. If so, what do you think of it?
Greetings! I have been reading and learning from t... (show quote)

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Jul 21, 2018 19:34:33   #
louparker Loc: Scottsdale, AZ
 
rmalarz wrote:
Years ago, probably the late 90s I used ACDsee. It was rudimentary and I quickly outgrew its limited capabilities. I then discovered Photoshop, that one processing program has filled the bill since around 2003.
--Bob


ACDSee, especially the 2 Pro versions is totally different from what it was in the late 90s. That would be like saying you used Windows 3.1 and MS-Word 2.0 in the 90s, which indeed were very "rudimentary" and for the most part unusable, as compared to the present versions, Windows 10 and Word 2016.

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Jul 21, 2018 20:01:08   #
scooper44 Loc: Layton UT
 
Thanks for your comments Bob. I understand that ACDSee Has had quite a few updates since the 90s but you are correct light room and Photoshop are still the gold standard

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Jul 21, 2018 20:49:27   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
There are processes I readily do in PS that I can't duplicate in any other processing software of which I'm aware. It's much the same as my film processing equipment. There may be other processors out there that work the same, but I'm not going to waste money or time chasing after them when i know what works for me. I'd prefer to invest my time in fine-tuning the processes I use, as opposed to spending time learning a new software package and its features or limitations. I've found that some of the plugins available for PS, and are the rage of a lot of people, can be duplicated by knowing the features of PS and how to use them. Thus, money saved on purchasing all kinds of additional software. That's just the way I approach things. If something comes along in the future and Photoshop wishes they worked like that software, I might find an interest. So far, nothing has.
--Bob

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Thanks for your comments Bob. I understand that ACDSee Has had quite a few updates since the 90s but you are correct light room and Photoshop are still the gold standard

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Jul 21, 2018 22:44:48   #
louparker Loc: Scottsdale, AZ
 
scooper44 wrote:
Thanks for your comments Bob. I understand that ACDSee Has had quite a few updates since the 90s but you are correct light room and Photoshop are still the gold standard


Photoshop may be the gold standard, but it's price reflects that. However, I disagree with you that Light Room is also the gold standard -- I don't think it's any better than the current ACDSee Pro, especially the Ultimate version. And, I'm sure there is other editing software that is also on a par with LR.

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Jul 21, 2018 23:29:39   #
scooper44 Loc: Layton UT
 
Thank you for your reply. I have found MUCH to like about ACDsee pro!

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