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Jul 18, 2018 13:31:19   #
maryo Loc: Santa fe
 
I am confused and maybe someone can explain this to me.
If a lens or camera has f stops listed at F/3.5-6.3 why can I shoot at f /11? What is the difference?
Thanks,
mary

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Jul 18, 2018 13:37:15   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
smeggy wrote:
I am confused and maybe someone can explain this to me.
If a lens or camera has f stops listed at F/3.5-6.3 why can I shoot at f /11? What is the difference?
Thanks,
mary


F/3.5-6.3 indicates the maximum apertures (widest) available on the lens, depending on the focal length you select. You still have smaller apertures like f/11, f/16 etc. at your disposal.

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Jul 18, 2018 13:37:52   #
maryo Loc: Santa fe
 
thanks makes sense.

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Jul 18, 2018 13:38:09   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
The f/3.5 - 6.3 refer to the maximum "Openness" of the lens aperture (how wide it opens). The amount of "stop down" such as f/11 is closing the aperture so there is usually a lot of latitude perhaps like f/22 or even more. When you see two numbers listed it refers to a zoom lens. The smaller number is the wide end of the zoom and the larger number is the high end of the zoom (like a 70-200mm zoom lens for example).

The lower the f-stop number the more open the aperture which is commonly referred to as how "fast" a lens is (fast meaning letting in more light).

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Jul 18, 2018 13:39:13   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
The f3.5 - f6.3 you quote is the maximum aperture at various focal lengths with the aperture “wide open”. You may then close the aperture down (either manually or controled by the camera body) to other values (smaller apertures) all the way down to the minimum aperture (highest f stop) on the lens - typically f22 - f32 for 35 mm lenses.

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Jul 18, 2018 14:19:49   #
marty wild Loc: England
 
smeggy wrote:
I am confused and maybe someone can explain this to me.
If a lens or camera has f stops listed at F/3.5-6.3 why can I shoot at f /11? What is the difference?
Thanks,
mary

As a rule of thumb the smaller the F stops the bigger the hole. The big the hole the shallower the back ground is (out of focus) which is called bokeh. Shallow depth of field needs a big hole which means a low F stop. Somethink like F1.8 or F1.4. Low F stop glass is more expensive. In low light photography you need time if you add time to low light you add movement which gives you blurred image. Back to your question F 3.5 -6.3 means the the F stop will change as you zoom in or out. Expensive glass will stop at what you set at when you zoom in or out. When you shoot at F 11 you Need light or exposer time don't get confused with added light. Day light is good enough you can still add fill flash but that's a different question. Hope this helps

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Jul 18, 2018 14:30:12   #
maryo Loc: Santa fe
 
I thought they were saying that 6.3 was as small as you could go. DUH!

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Jul 18, 2018 14:32:03   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
marty wild wrote:
As a rule of thumb the smaller the F stops the bigger the hole.

Not so. The smaller the f/stop, the smaller the opening. The smaller the f/ number, the larger the opening.

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Jul 18, 2018 14:50:31   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
F/stops are fractions , so f/4 (1/4) is bigger than f/16 (1/16)

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Jul 18, 2018 15:13:32   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
F/stops are fractions , so f/4 (1/4) is bigger than f/16 (1/16)


True. But actually it might be more accurate or understandable to think of f-stops as a "ratio"... F = focal length.... So an F-stop is "focal length divided by X". (In fact, many lenses are actually marked with a ratio such as 1:3.5, instead of f/3.5. But when discussing f-stops, we tend to write the latter.)

For example:

A 100mm lens at f/4 will have an opening that's 25mm in diameter (100/4 or 100 ÷ 4). At f/16 the same lens aperture is closed down to give an opening that's 6.25mm in diameter (100/16 or 100 ÷ 16, which will allow less light to pass through).

On a 200mm lens f/4 would make for a 50mm aperture, while f/16 would provide one that's 12.5mm in diameter.

On a 50mm lens f/4 is 12.5mm and f/16 is 3.125mm.

When you think of it as illustrated in the examples above, it might make more sense why the higher the number, the smaller the aperture opening.

F-stops regulate the amount of light that can pass through a lens. Each "full" f-stop smaller reduces the amount of light being allowed to pass through by one half. Full stops are f1, f/1.4, f/2, f/2.8, f/4, f/5.6, f/8, f/11, f/16, f/22, f/32, etc. (Note that every other smaller f-stop the divisor "doubles".... 1, 2, 4, 8, etc. and 1.4, 2.8, 5.6, 11, etc. This can help when trying to remember the sequence of stops.)

F-stops ALSO control depth of field (which is also effected by focal length & distances). Basically, a larger aperture makes for shallower depth of field (the "plane of apparent sharp focus"), while a smaller aperture increases DoF.

Hope this makes sense... it only took me about 10 years to finally "get it"!

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Jul 18, 2018 16:30:16   #
marty wild Loc: England
 
It looks confusing small F stop number F1.4 is big hole

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Jul 18, 2018 16:33:28   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
marty wild wrote:
Correction accepted the smaller the number F1.4 small number big hole


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Jul 18, 2018 22:05:39   #
Joe Blow
 
amfoto1 wrote:
True. But actually it might be more accurate or understandable to think of f-stops as a "ratio"... F = focal length.... So an F-stop is "focal length divided by X". (In fact, many lenses are actually marked with a ratio such as 1:3.5, instead of f/3.5. But when discussing f-stops, we tend to write the latter.)

For example:

A 100mm lens at f/4 will have an opening that's 25mm in diameter (100/4 or 100 ÷ 4). At f/16 the same lens aperture is closed down to give an opening that's 6.25mm in diameter (100/16 or 100 ÷ 16, which will allow less light to pass through).

On a 200mm lens f/4 would make for a 50mm aperture, while f/16 would provide one that's 12.5mm in diameter.

On a 50mm lens f/4 is 12.5mm and f/16 is 3.125mm.

When you think of it as illustrated in the examples above, it might make more sense why the higher the number, the smaller the aperture opening.

F-stops regulate the amount of light that can pass through a lens. Each "full" f-stop smaller reduces the amount of light being allowed to pass through by one half. Full stops are f1, f/1.4, f/2, f/2.8, f/4, f/5.6, f/8, f/11, f/16, f/22, f/32, etc. (Note that every other smaller f-stop the divisor "doubles".... 1, 2, 4, 8, etc. and 1.4, 2.8, 5.6, 11, etc. This can help when trying to remember the sequence of stops.)

F-stops ALSO control depth of field (which is also effected by focal length & distances). Basically, a larger aperture makes for shallower depth of field (the "plane of apparent sharp focus"), while a smaller aperture increases DoF.

Hope this makes sense... it only took me about 10 years to finally "get it"!
True. But actually it might be more accurate or un... (show quote)


Not to overly quibble, however, ...

Full stops are 1 : 2 : 4 : 8 : 16 : 32. The half stops are 1.4 : 2.8 : 5.6 : 11 : 22. (With each being a fraction) The slope is exponential because it relies upon the area of the aperture, not the diameter. One half of 1 is 1.4, not as often thought, 2.0.

Mechanical cameras were picky when choosing an aperture and only went by full and half stops. Modern digital cameras can choose intervening f-stops.

You probably know this but I wanted to get the "full vs half" right.

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Jul 18, 2018 22:32:12   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Joe Blow wrote:
Not to overly quibble, however, ...

Full stops are 1 : 2 : 4 : 8 : 16 : 32. The half stops are 1.4 : 2.8 : 5.6 : 11 : 22. (With each being a fraction) The slope is exponential because it relies upon the area of the aperture, not the diameter. One half of 1 is 1.4, not as often thought, 2.0.

Mechanical cameras were picky when choosing an aperture and only went by full and half stops. Modern digital cameras can choose intervening f-stops.

You probably know this but I wanted to get the "full vs half" right.
Not to overly quibble, however, ... br br Full st... (show quote)


Maybe it’s a matter of semantics, but my understanding (supported by my experience and wiki: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-number) is that what you’re referring to as a half stop is generally considered to be 1 full stop (ie: 1.4>2.0, 2.0>2.8, 2.8>4.0, etc) each stop being equivalent 1/2 (or 2x) the light or 1 EV or 1/2 (or 2x) the shutter speed or 1/2 (or 2x) the ISO for equivalent exposure. Am I misunderstanding you?

From Wiki:

Conventional and calculated f-numbers, full-stop series:

EV. −2 −1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16

fstop 0.5 0.7 1.0 1.4 2 2.8 4 5.6 8 11 16 22 32 45 64 90 128 180 256

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Jul 19, 2018 07:13:53   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
To much information

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