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Olympus OM-D-E-M1 II vs OM-D-E-M10 II
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Jul 14, 2018 22:07:41   #
captainkauai
 
I own an Olympus OM-D M10 II and have been wondering what difference I would see in the quality of the images I take with it if instead I used an OM-D M1 II. This would assume I used the same lens for either camera, say for discussion sake the Olympus M.Zuiko 14-150. I am an average amateur photographer.

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Jul 15, 2018 07:36:24   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
"Average" covers a lot, and purchasing new equipment will not make you a better photographer. I could only find one photo of yours on UHH (January 2017 sunset). I wouldn't have expected that much noise - apparent noise I should say, because maybe that's not what is - so I'm wondering if the image was significantly underexposed and you tried to lighten too much when editing?

Here is one of many sites that compares the two cameras:
https://www.ephotozine.com/article/olympus-om-d-e-m10-mark-ii-vs-olympus-om-d-e-m10-28012

The first two photos below were shot in jpg and have slight editing, using the EM10 and Olympus M.Zuiko Digital Ed 75-300mm lens. I was trying out the 2x digital zoom function, making these equivalent 600 mm angle of view (I think#2 is slightly cropped, as well).

Mostly I shoot in raw (see #3 below) and edit, though I'm only average with PS Elements. I have found that the EM 10 does not enjoy high ISO combined with low light, but for the majority of my photography, I have been extremely happy with the 10, which I purchased slightly used a bit over a year ago.


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This started as a raw file. ISO 1600
This started as a raw file. ISO 1600...
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Jul 15, 2018 08:04:53   #
wildweasel
 
Fantastic photos, I have the EM1 Mark ll and I can tell you that it does not enjoy high ISO in low light either. I have shot it at 6400 iso with acceptable results but nothing spectacular. Here is a test shot with no processing at 6400 iso.



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Jul 15, 2018 08:48:58   #
Gort55 Loc: Northern Colorado
 
captainkauai wrote:
I own an Olympus OM-D M10 II and have been wondering what difference I would see in the quality of the images I take with it if instead I used an OM-D M1 II. This would assume I used the same lens for either camera, say for discussion sake the Olympus M.Zuiko 14-150. I am an average amateur photographer.


I own both cameras — only Mark I versions. I dont see any difference in image quality. the EM 1 has more buttons and a better grip. It is easier to change settings on the EM1.

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Jul 15, 2018 08:57:08   #
bw79st Loc: New York City
 
captainkauai wrote:
I own an Olympus OM-D M10 II and have been wondering what difference I would see in the quality of the images I take with it if instead I used an OM-D M1 II. This would assume I used the same lens for either camera, say for discussion sake the Olympus M.Zuiko 14-150. I am an average amateur photographer.


I have never used a E-M10 II but I have owned an E-M5 and an E-M1. My E-M1 II is superior to both of them. What jumped out at me right away was the ease with which it autofocuses. I generally use the 14-150mm lens and find it a very good match with the Mark II. Bear in mind that I rarely ever find myself in low light situations so I can't really compare cameras in that regard.

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Jul 15, 2018 09:22:36   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
I shoot regularly with the EM-10 Mk II. I have no experience with the EM-1 Mk II that has a similar sensor but with some extra megapixels.
Using the same lens, from what I know, I do not believe you are going to see a difference in quality.

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Jul 15, 2018 09:25:38   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
A correction: the M4/3 cameras already have a 2x crop factor, meaning you would double the focal length to get equivalent angle of view of a full frame sensor. The first two photos I posted in this thread, using the 2x digital zoom, available with jpg, means the equivalent was 1200 mm on #2 and nearly that on #1. This information may be more important to some folks than others

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Jul 15, 2018 09:39:46   #
EdU239 Loc: The Northeast
 
captainkauai wrote:
I own an Olympus OM-D M10 II and have been wondering what difference I would see in the quality of the images I take with it if instead I used an OM-D M1 II. This would assume I used the same lens for either camera, say for discussion sake the Olympus M.Zuiko 14-150. I am an average amateur photographer.


I use an M10 II for travel and like it a lot. The OM-D M1 II Has a newer 24 MP sensor compared with the 16 MP sensor on the M10. You can probably find comparison photos for both online. The 24 MP sensor has more potential, but I imagine you’d need to upgrade to an Olympus Pro lens to take advantage of it.

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Jul 15, 2018 12:23:29   #
rcarol
 
EdU239 wrote:
I use an M10 II for travel and like it a lot. The OM-D M1 II Has a newer 24 MP sensor compared with the 16 MP sensor on the M10. You can probably find comparison photos for both online. The 24 MP sensor has more potential, but I imagine you’d need to upgrade to an Olympus Pro lens to take advantage of it.


The OM-D E-M1 has 20 MP sensor, not 24 MP.

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Jul 15, 2018 12:45:23   #
EdU239 Loc: The Northeast
 
rcarol wrote:
The OM-D E-M1 has 20 MP sensor, not 24 MP.


Thanks for the correction. I was going from memory and should have checked.

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Jul 15, 2018 13:53:16   #
rcarol
 
EdU239 wrote:
Thanks for the correction. I was going from memory and should have checked.


Maybe someday it will have 24 MP. But one of the things the E-M1 has that few other cameras have is a high-resolution mode which produces an image of about 60 MP as I recall.

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Jul 15, 2018 13:59:01   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
rcarol wrote:
Maybe someday it will have 24 MP. But one of the things the E-M1 has that few other cameras have is a high-resolution mode which produces an image of about 60 MP as I recall.


80MP raw file or 50MP Jpeg. It is a bit weird that you guys don’t know the specks of your cameras.

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Jul 15, 2018 14:04:55   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
Another difference, and correct me if I am wrong, is that the M1 has phase detect AF and the M10/M5 do not (only contrast detect which is slower, not too good in low light) unless they are/will be introduced in the mkiii versions?

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Jul 15, 2018 14:08:12   #
moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment
 
E-M1 is weather sealed, M-10 is not. That may or may not matter to you. I believe the E-M5 is also weather sealed, but i don't own one and am not sure. The m-1 is built to take a lot of abuse, something I take advantage of.

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Jul 15, 2018 14:10:59   #
rcarol
 
tdekany wrote:
80MP raw file or 50MP Jpeg. It is a bit weird that you guys don’t know the specks of your cameras.


I kind of think that it's weird that you presume I own this camera.

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