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Jun 25, 2018 14:50:27   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
The headwater area of the river Spey.

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Jun 25, 2018 17:38:47   #
deer2ker Loc: Nashville, TN
 
This is a beautiful shot R.G.! love it

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Jun 25, 2018 17:49:39   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
A one-degree rotation made my brain much happier with the water line I was already happy with the big sky, the sun and the wide open spaces. It's stunning! The gentle foreground, with cloud reflections and lush "stepping stone" grassy areas, is lagniappe.

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Jun 26, 2018 01:14:12   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
deer2ker wrote:
This is a beautiful shot R.G.! love it


Thank you deer2ker. Glad you enjoyed.

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Jun 26, 2018 01:18:37   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
A one-degree rotation made my brain much happier with the water line ....


We were wondering why the Spey kept getting so low . The distilleries and fly fishers are now indebted to you . All lagniappes are gratefully accepted (in fact I go looking for them...).

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Jun 26, 2018 07:37:05   #
fergmark Loc: norwalk connecticut
 
My feeling is that I want to see a little more foreground and a little less sky. Its a beautiful place.

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Jun 26, 2018 08:08:38   #
Dave Chinn
 
R.G. wrote:
The headwater area of the river Spey.

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A lovely view and well composed !!!
Dave

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Jun 26, 2018 10:39:32   #
SoHillGuy Loc: Washington
 
This scenic has a leading line of water with inward sloping hills on the left and right that leads your vision to the dark hill in the background. I find this to be a wall hanger.

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Jun 26, 2018 11:08:56   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
fergmark wrote:
My feeling is that I want to see a little more foreground and a little less sky. Its a beautiful place.


I did have a little more foreground in the original, but including it increases the large area of featureless grass directly in front of the camera. And it would have just been more of what's there already. As far as the sky is concerned, yes, there is quite a lot of it, but to my mind that's rarely detrimental. Thanks for commenting, fergmark.

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Jun 26, 2018 11:11:42   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Dave Chinn wrote:
A lovely view and well composed !!!
Dave


Thank you Dave. On their own the individual elements aren't anything to get excited about, but an effective composition gives a shot a lot of justification.

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Jun 26, 2018 11:11:50   #
fuminous Loc: Luling, LA... for now...
 
Interesting: scratched on my monitor and got a distinct whiff of whisky.... Good job R.G.!!

R.G. wrote:
The headwater area of the river Spey.

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Jun 26, 2018 11:19:27   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
SoHillGuy wrote:
This scenic has a leading line of water with inward sloping hills on the left and right that leads your vision to the dark hill in the background. I find this to be a wall hanger.


Thank you SHG. I see the water and the grassy areas as channels, which are an extension of the idea of leading lines (the same thing but wider ). Leading lines and channels both have the ability to guide the eye into the picture. I find myself looking for one or the other (or failing that, natural framing) more and more. Despite the fact that extensive use is made of these composition tools, they never seem to lose their effectiveness (which is just as well because I like it when things can be kept simple ).

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Jun 26, 2018 11:23:01   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
fuminous wrote:
Interesting: scratched on my monitor and got a distinct whiff of whisky.... Good job R.G.!!


Thanks for commenting, fuminous. If you drink whisky at all there's a good chance you've drunk Spey water (with a few extra ingredients, of course...).

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Jun 26, 2018 12:11:07   #
fergmark Loc: norwalk connecticut
 
When I put your shot in PS, and hit crop, it shows a perfect 1/3 composition. When I studied architecture I discovered the world of the golden segment. Its that ratio that seems to be exemplified in natures designs and used in architecture and other art works. Klimt painted most of his figures with the hands at that intersection. As a mathematical curiosity, 1.6180339 squared is 2.6180339. So when I began using photoshop I adopted that over the 1/3 rule simply because its so familiar to me. Have you ever given it a whirl? The reason I bring all this up, is that with the golden segment selected in the crop tool, it suggests a little more foreground. I suppose I have just trained my eye to it. Could be Im off track here and you rely on what your eye tells you is right. so Im just curious.

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Jun 26, 2018 14:07:22   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
fergmark wrote:
When I put your shot in PS, and hit crop, it shows a perfect 1/3 composition. When I studied architecture I discovered the world of the golden segment. Its that ratio that seems to be exemplified in natures designs and used in architecture and other art works. Klimt painted most of his figures with the hands at that intersection. As a mathematical curiosity, 1.6180339 squared is 2.6180339. So when I began using photoshop I adopted that over the 1/3 rule simply because its so familiar to me. Have you ever given it a whirl? The reason I bring all this up, is that with the golden segment selected in the crop tool, it suggests a little more foreground. I suppose I have just trained my eye to it. Could be Im off track here and you rely on what your eye tells you is right. so Im just curious.
When I put your shot in PS, and hit crop, it shows... (show quote)


Did you know that if you invert the golden ratio you get an equally curious result? These things aside, I almost never use the guidelines in the cropping tool. I use my eye, and it's pure coincidence that the photo shows a perfect 1/3 composition. If I was absolutely stuck trying to find a good composition I might try placing stuff on the thirds or the intersection of thirds just to give myself justification for my choice, but like so much else in editing, rules are only guidelines and not to be seen as absolute. I've never experimented with the golden ratio in composition - perhaps I should. But I'd be wary of trying to train my eye to override what it thinks looks right. Perhaps if I saw more examples of the golden ratio working well it might influence how I see things, but at this point in time I don't think I'm missing out when I don't pursue it as a composition rule.

I'll stick with what I already said about the crop. More foreground would mean a larger featureless grass area in the centre foreground, which is something I consciously chose to avoid when cropping. But I agree that it's an interesting subject. Thanks for commenting.

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