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Jun 19, 2018 09:45:14   #
JonClayton
 
SteveR wrote:
Just wondering....anybody use the Nikon 85mm f1.8 for indoor basketball on a dx camera?


I have not shot sports since the film age but I covered HS, DI and DII basketball back then and I found my 1.8 85mm an excellent lens for basketball. Since I was able to roam the sidelines and behind the basket with my press pass it gave me everything I needed in the way of reach to get good full frame shots.

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Jun 19, 2018 09:51:30   #
Low Budget Dave
 
Easy.

Sony a9. About $4000.
Shoots fast, among the best AF for any price. Flexible and usable.

Sony 70-200 2.8. Maybe $2500
Sharp, fast and rugged. Comparable to the great Canon long zoom in every way

2x televonverter. $500

That leaves you $1000 for camera bag, batteries, tripod and so on.

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Jun 19, 2018 09:59:58   #
AzPicLady (a regular here)
 
Canon 1 DX MK II, with 28-300. Might not fit in the budget, but it would be a sweet combo!

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Jun 19, 2018 10:27:59   #
dsmeltz (a regular here)
 
Still wondering what equipment the OP has (aside form the 7D II) what lenses, monopod, head, etc...

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Jun 19, 2018 10:33:45   #
amfoto1 (a regular here)
 
No, you don't need full frame. In fact, if you get a FF camera, for sports you will need considerably bigger, heavier more expensive lenses.

Get a second 7D Mark II with battery grip & an add'l battery... approx. $1700 right now. 80D would work well too, but since you already have a 7DII, I'd recommend getting a 2nd copy of the same camera, in order to be able to switch back and forth rapidly and easily. Both Canon 7DII and 80D have "Anti-Flicker" mode which works well preventing under-exposed imaged under certain types of arena lighting (in Nikon, only the D500 has that... AFAIK, Sony, Pentax and Oly don't have it in any models.

Lenses are a lot more important than what camera they're on. You haven't mentioned what lenses you already have. Hockey and baseball generally require quite different lenses. On an APS-C camera such as 7DII...

Hockey... 70-200mm f/2.8 would serve well for indoor hockey. Canon's "II" or new "III" would be top choice. $1800 to $2100.

Baseball... Canon 100-400mm II would likely serve well... $1900. At times you may want to use use it with 1.4X II teleconverter too, another $450 or so. For baseball, the $1800 Sigma 150-600mm "Sport" would be a good alternative to the Canon lens.

Both venues.. a Canon 24-70mm f/2.8 II would be excellent for closer shots.... $1600. At half that cost, an EF-S 17-55mm IS USM would be a very good alternative (and would not be an option with a FF camera)

For hockey with a full frame camera, you'd instead need Sigma 120-300mm f/2.8 for $3500. There's no comparable zoom in the Canon line-up. The closest you can get is an EF 300mm f/2.8L IS II for about $6000 or an EF 200-400/4L IS USM Teleconverter (1.4X built in) for $11,000. With any of these lenses, you will likely want a sturdy tripod... so figure another $1000 to $1500 for that. For baseball the Sigma 150-600mm Sport mentioned above would be about the minimum. Sigma's got a 300-800mm zoom, too.... doesn't have image stabilization and costs $8000.

When you're a pro shooting for top sports magazines and internet sites... and they buy you're gear for you, provide an assistant and a golf cart to haul your gear... then you might want a FF sports camera and the appropriate lenses. Unless you have some of the above already, $8000 really isn't enough to put together a full frame sports kit, anyway. I'd estimate you need at least 2X to 3X that amount.

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Jun 19, 2018 10:41:48   #
Tom Daniels (a regular here)
 
I must admit I am confused by this assignment. Have been in businesses for years. You are getting 8K for a kit to do sports
shooting for a client??
I have been shooting running and triathlon events in the last few years. And soccer a lot of my grandchildren who are all good players.
Is this for pro shots to publish. Are you getting paid for the shooting. Sorry for being so stupid what is going on. I would go with the Sony
A9 killer AF. and a couple zooms.
I shoot soccer video and stills with just the Sony RX10 III bridge camera. 24 to 600mm zeiss lens. This range allows a lot of leverage
across the field etc. I would buy the RX10 IV even better AF. If I am confused my apology.

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Jun 19, 2018 10:56:50   #
SteveR (a regular here)
 
JonClayton wrote:
I have not shot sports since the film age but I covered HS, DI and DII basketball back then and I found my 1.8 85mm an excellent lens for basketball. Since I was able to roam the sidelines and behind the basket with my press pass it gave me everything I needed in the way of reach to get good full frame shots.


My daughter is shooting with a D7500 (dx), mostly from the stands for my 8 year old grandson's games. Just from the exif data, I noticed that most of her shots were around 100mm.

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Jun 19, 2018 11:38:56   #
Jules Karney (a regular here)
 
DonOles wrote:
Good Morning All
Thanks to all for the helpful replies that I received this week. I am reaching out once more. Ok here's you assignment. 8000.00 budget you must purchase the best gear for sport shooting. Hockey and Baseball respectively. Camera body i currently have is a Canon 7dmkii. Looking for another body btw is full frame absolutely necessary? Have fun with this assignment. Thanks in advance.📷


Here is what I have and serves me well.
Nikon D500 with battery grip 2,000
Nikon used 80-400 4.5-5.6 $1,000
Nikon used 70-200 2.8 1300.00
Nikon used 24-70 2.8 1300.00
$4700.00 and a lot left over from your 8000.00.. $3300.00 left.

Bought equipment used from a friend and B & H camera except the camera.

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Jun 19, 2018 11:55:28   #
JFCoupe
 
Without getting into actual cost a suggestion would be to purchase a 2nd 7D Mk II and a Canon 100-400 MK II lens and a 1.4 TC, plus a 24-70 f2.8 L lens for the second body. I think you would still be under the $8,000. Then you have lens coverage for everything from close action to all the way across the field.

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Jun 19, 2018 12:09:06   #
riderxlx
 
WOW !!!!!!!!!!!! whatta great opportunity to have a gift like this.
Yea yea I know you said you want another another camera but may I ask you what is wrong with the Canon you currently have ?
Can you not use this one ? Just curious.

Ok, my thoughts are; depending on where you live of course; visit a good camera shop and just ask them. Tell them what you are interested in and see what their opinions are.
Do not tell them you have a shitload of money to spend.
Would it not help to contact a local camera club and chew this up with knowledgeable members ?
And of course this, what fits in your hand and controls you are comfortable with.
There are SO MANY great cameras out there now which can serve you so very well. Just find one that fits.
Me, I am left handed so I live on a backwards world and hand fit is probably more of a logistics factor with me, so I have to throw this in here.
I saw several comments on the Nikon D500, oh yea, it is nice indeed.
Again, so many good brands out there, I wish I had this blessing you have and I think many of us here would too.
Happy hunting,
this is my penny's worth of opinions from North Texas.
Bruce.

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Jun 19, 2018 12:09:23   #
SharpShooter
 
hj wrote:
Nope, I'm not doing your research for you.


He’s not asking for you to do research!
When you know, there’s no research involved!!!loL
SS

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Jun 19, 2018 13:04:44   #
drklrd
 
DonOles wrote:
Good Morning All
Thanks to all for the helpful replies that I received this week. I am reaching out once more. Ok here's you assignment. 8000.00 budget you must purchase the best gear for sport shooting. Hockey and Baseball respectively. Camera body i currently have is a Canon 7dmkii. Looking for another body btw is full frame absolutely necessary? Have fun with this assignment. Thanks in advance.📷


Nikon D850 $3,296.00
Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8E FL ED VR Lens $2,796.95
or
Nikon D7200 DSLR Camera with 18-55mm and 70-300mm Lenses (Kit) $1,096.95

I shoot hockey professionally for year books with the D7200. I use two of them One has the 18 to 140mm and the other has the Nikon 50 to 300mm. No lens changes allows me a quicker response when needing close up shots. I do plan to get a Nikon D850 this upcoming school
season. I could get along with just one lens the 50 to 300 and the one I have is a f4.5 as the D7200 has a High ISO setting.

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Jun 19, 2018 13:10:56   #
riderxlx
 
There ya go buddy. I'll take that road trip with you.

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Jun 19, 2018 13:16:18   #
drklrd
 
Tom Daniels wrote:
I must admit I am confused by this assignment. Have been in businesses for years. You are getting 8K for a kit to do sports
shooting for a client??
I have been shooting running and triathlon events in the last few years. And soccer a lot of my grandchildren who are all good players.
Is this for pro shots to publish. Are you getting paid for the shooting. Sorry for being so stupid what is going on. I would go with the Sony
A9 killer AF. and a couple zooms.
I shoot soccer video and stills with just the Sony RX10 III bridge camera. 24 to 600mm zeiss lens. This range allows a lot of leverage
across the field etc. I would buy the RX10 IV even better AF. If I am confused my apology.
I must admit I am confused by this assignment. Hav... (show quote)


Is that 24 to 600mm actual the lens or is it digital manipulation in camera to go out to 600mm?
My lenses in Nikon may not go to 600mm only because I do not own one yet. But it is the lens on the camera and not digital manipulation in camera that will give me 300mm. Digital manipulation in camera will add noise to the shot that a real lens will not add to the shot. Sony may be great for digital video but can lack detail and put noise into digital still shots. I can make 11x14's from my hockey shots and my lens of choice is a Nikon 50 to 300mm f4.5 lens on a Nikon D7200 with I think the last time out I only needed an ISO of 12800. The D7200 does go up to 25600 and I have gotten a few 11X14's from this setting. i do try to stay away from the high ISO settings but some places like old football stadiums force me to use it with any lens.

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Jun 19, 2018 16:10:02   #
Diocletian
 
amfoto1 wrote:
No, you don't need full frame. In fact, if you get a FF camera, for sports you will need considerably bigger, heavier more expensive lenses.

Get a second 7D Mark II with battery grip & an add'l battery... approx. $1700 right now. 80D would work well too, but since you already have a 7DII, I'd recommend getting a 2nd copy of the same camera, in order to be able to switch back and forth rapidly and easily. Both Canon 7DII and 80D have "Anti-Flicker" mode which works well preventing under-exposed imaged under certain types of arena lighting (in Nikon, only the D500 has that... AFAIK, Sony, Pentax and Oly don't have it in any models.

Lenses are a lot more important than what camera they're on. You haven't mentioned what lenses you already have. Hockey and baseball generally require quite different lenses. On an APS-C camera such as 7DII...

Hockey... 70-200mm f/2.8 would serve well for indoor hockey. Canon's "II" or new "III" would be top choice. $1800 to $2100.

Baseball... Canon 100-400mm II would likely serve well... $1900. At times you may want to use use it with 1.4X II teleconverter too, another $450 or so. For baseball, the $1800 Sigma 150-600mm "Sport" would be a good alternative to the Canon lens.

Both venues.. a Canon 24-70mm f/2.8 II would be excellent for closer shots.... $1600. At half that cost, an EF-S 17-55mm IS USM would be a very good alternative (and would not be an option with a FF camera)

For hockey with a full frame camera, you'd instead need Sigma 120-300mm f/2.8 for $3500. There's no comparable zoom in the Canon line-up. The closest you can get is an EF 300mm f/2.8L IS II for about $6000 or an EF 200-400/4L IS USM Teleconverter (1.4X built in) for $11,000. With any of these lenses, you will likely want a sturdy tripod... so figure another $1000 to $1500 for that. For baseball the Sigma 150-600mm Sport mentioned above would be about the minimum. Sigma's got a 300-800mm zoom, too.... doesn't have image stabilization and costs $8000.

When you're a pro shooting for top sports magazines and internet sites... and they buy you're gear for you, provide an assistant and a golf cart to haul your gear... then you might want a FF sports camera and the appropriate lenses. Unless you have some of the above already, $8000 really isn't enough to put together a full frame sports kit, anyway. I'd estimate you need at least 2X to 3X that amount.
No, you don't need full frame. In fact, if you get... (show quote)


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