Frank T Loc: New York, NY

NRA Opposes Background Check Requirements, Al Qaeda Plans A Shopping Trip

This is the NRA's position. There is something very wrong.

http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201106070005

Danilo Loc: Las Vegas

Your referenced source is by no means unbiased. It's irresponsible of them to suggest any connection or cooperation between NRA and Al Qaeda.
For over 100 years NRA has been a strong proponent of freedom loving United States citizens like you and I.

BW326 Loc: Boynton Beach, Florida

I agree that the reference and association with Al Qaeda was unfair and over the top and that U.S., gun owning citizens are lovers of freedom.

However, I start to question the methods and motives of the NRA, who have become so feared by all branches of government, and individual politicians looking to stay in office that they refuse to take even a moderate position against them.

http://www.newwest.net/topic/article/brady_campaign_and_nra_agree_give_obama_f_on_gun_issue/C41/L41/

I'm starting to believe the NRA's goal is "No Rules Allowed"

DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL

Do you really believe that The NRA is a strong proponent of freedom ... No ... they are a one issue orginazition .... they are not interested in freedom as a broad concept .... they are interested in gun ownership nothing more ..... when will they take up the cause of convicted felons owning guns .... they are collectively a group of narrow minded short sighted individuals who think that the private ownership of guns will prevent the governemnt from ensalving us ...... by the way ..... I gave up my membership the same time G.H.W. Bush gave up his ...

Mattie

I have been to gun shows before in a city near by with my son in law... and they do indeed allow you to buy guns w/o asking anything about you. In this case, every convict, gang idiot wanting to kill his hate filled desire, or a husband who want to get rid of his wife can buy one and it will not be recorded. But even then... how do you know when a person goes in a gun shop.. presents a fake ID, who has a good record, and buys a gun. If people can get ID's as easily as anything else they want, they can certainly do this to.

When I got my license... it took me 6 weeks to get my permit ok'd.... and that's the way it should be. You are fingerprinted, picture taken and you must have pass the test in order to be able to carry a concealed gun. Yet criminals ---- all they have to do is break in someone's house and steal all the guns they own. You can buy a gun on the black market from almost anyone. They are used and reused constantly. Criminals know where and how... it's the innocent people who do not.

Mattie

While I was watching the news the other day... which is even more terrifying besides the guns, the Govt.. forgot which branch... is allowing ALL illegals to take FLYING lessons! I couldnt believe what I was listening to when I heard that. They could be criminals, terrorist, or some of the same creeps who flew into the Towers that time. I seriously think our President and his idiots below him have lost their minds ----- totally.

BW326 Loc: Boynton Beach, Florida

You make very good points and I couldn't agree with you more. Truth be told, I may even some day decide to own a gun for protection for the very reasons you outlined (I live in S. Florida) but I will always be against the legal sale and possession of assault weapons and oversize ammunition clips. When that criminal breaks into your house or my house I don't want him to be getting his automatic weapons that way, and also, when a criminal tries to rob my grandma in the supermarket parking lot (a popular scenario down here) I don't want her pulling out 'her' AK47 and starting a firefight right there in the parking lot. I want her to just return fire with 6-round clip .45 pistol the way God and the Founding Fathers intended for her too.

(Sorry about the tongue-in-cheek humor, I just wanted make the point that unfettered freedom should not be the NRA's goal.)

dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida

I agree BW326 ... I just wanted make the point that unfettered freedom should not be the NRA's goal

If 100 people with 100 round clips in their rifles were to prsent them selves in congress and stood there until a control bill were signed, the time to sign the bill would be quite brief. Like a card game, facing death from 100 guns with 100 rounds each trumps the fear of the NRA.

No, I am not suggesting it should be done. Regarding the need of hunters....How many deer hunters need 100 rounds to bring down a buck? If three rounds to bring down a deer are not enough, then go to Mac D's and eat beef.

Couldn't happen? Well it did.

"The United States Capitol shooting incident of 1954 was an attack on March 1, 1954 by four Puerto Rican nationalists who shot 30 rounds from semi-automatic pistols from the Ladies' Gallery (a balcony for visitors) of the House of Representatives chamber in the United States Capitol. in 1954" Read the history at the following reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol_shooting_incident_(1954)

DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL

We like to say that a criminal can get a gun by "breaking into" someones house and stealing one .... that is true .... most people who own gun do not secure then in a gun vault or use trigger locks ..... so ... yes it is easy for a criminal to steal guns ...... maybe ... gun owners should act more responsibility and better secure their guns ..... maybe there should be greater penalties for gun owners if a gun is stolen and used in a crime .... how often do you read about a child getting his/her hands on an unsecured gun .... the result .... someone dies .... and people who want a gun in the house for protection .... if you live in an urban area ... thats the wrong reason .... thats what police are for ..... and what about the idea that if you confront a criminal .... just show them the gun ... and they will run .... dream on .... the criminal will usually take the gun away from you .... than use it on you .... everyone thinks they are a Wyatt Earp ....

Gnslngr

Hmmmm..... an organization that fights tirelessly to assure unfettered access to firearms. And one that spends hundreds of millions of dollars per year to do that, all the while refusing to divulge exactly where it gets its money.

Strong proponent of freedom loving Americans? Not likely.

Propogandists for Smith and Wesson, Remington, Taurus, etc? Absolutely. And saps all over America fall for their bull$hit year after year.

Mattie

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I remember when my soninlaw would leave his automatic pistol hanging on the bed post when he had two small children in his house. I got on to my daughter about that.... cause all that boy has to do... when he has friends over, is to BRAG about his daddys' gun or allow his friends to look or hold it.... a dangerous situation.

They had a big safe which to keep that stuff in... yet he did not use it. Fortunately no one was every hurt... but it could have been. I never allowed my X to own a gun while our children were growing up. It was only after I was alone did I buy one. and even then... I keep it hidden. Once it was not hidden, and someone broke into my house and stole it.. it has never been recovered...

DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL

[quote=Mattie][quote=DEBJENROB]

The gun should not have been "hidden" .... it should have been in a gun vault secured to the floor and with a trigger lock .... anyway .... there are a lot of scary people out there with guns .... I used to shoot at a public range on occasion .... I was always nervous when shooting next to someone who had a $ 1000 gun and a $ 500 car ... and shooting sillouites and wearing combat style clothes ...

Mattie

what they did, and it was kids who stole it, tore up my bedroom, mattress, dresser drawers, night table, etc... looking for a gun and they found it. Normally I take it with me when I leave, but for some reason I didnt that time. bad decision on my part. I have a feeling it was the kids who live down the street from me... cause every time I pass by their house, those boys are always watching me as I pass... no other families do this, but them. Besides that... my neighbor cause them one time in between our houses, and he went out there ask asked them what they were doing back there, and they said some stupid thing like .... using the bathroom... but it was the same kids were lived down the street... they kicked in my back door to gain entry..

DennisK Loc: Pickle City,Illinois

Man,please,for your own sake,find your "facts" from some other source than the main stream media when it comes to firearms.They have been spoon feeding people this "assault weapon" nonsense for too long.An actual assault weapon is an automatic weapon that ONE pull of the trigger fires bullets until the trigger is released.An AR 15 or a semi-auto AK 47 fires one bullet per trigger pull (yes they both can be converted to fully automatic,but that would be illegal). The rifle used in Aurora,Co. was an AR 15 semi-automatic weapon (one trigger pull,one shot fired),NOT an assault weapon.It was LEGALLY purchased by a nut job that just fell through the cracks....it happens,as no system is perfect.
As for high cap mags,he'd of just had to carry more or more guns.If a madman has the intent and the will to get the job done,any firearm prohibition can be worked around;that is if he even cared in the least about being legal.If you believe that just because something is banned you can't get it,you are very naive.
If you wish to learn more about how things really are browse illinoiscarry(dot)com. Although it has a lot of politics and stuff pertaining just to the struggle to bring Illinois into the 21st century,there is still a ton of useful information there.

woody54895 Loc: NW Wisconsin

I have been a gun owner and hunter for 53 years. I am a former NRA member. I would take gun registration one step further. I believe all guns should have a title just like a car. If a person was to sell a gun, the title would be transfered to the new owner. I believe a clip should be restricted to less then 10 rounds.
A person would still have the right to keep and bear arms.