Meyer-Optik Gorlitz Polarizing Filters
May 29, 2018 20:06:10 #
I'm looking to get a quality polarizing filter for one of my Fujifilm lenses. I have used B & W in the past, along with Singh-Ray. I have heard good things about Marumi filters also, but I don't know anything about the Meyer-Optik brand. The B & W I'm looking at sells for $65 at Adorama, the Marumi is $95.00 and the Meyer-Optik is $134.00. The polarizing filter is the only filter I use, so I don't mind paying extra for a good polarizer.
Have any of you folks heard of Meyer-Optik filters and have an opinion on them? I know I could buy it from Adorama and return it if I don't like it, but I would prefer to do it right the first time. Thanks for everyone's input. I did a search on here for Meyer-Optik but nothing comes up.
Have any of you folks heard of Meyer-Optik filters and have an opinion on them? I know I could buy it from Adorama and return it if I don't like it, but I would prefer to do it right the first time. Thanks for everyone's input. I did a search on here for Meyer-Optik but nothing comes up.
May 29, 2018 20:22:06 #
Watch Tony Northrup's video and save yourself money. You really do not need a polarizing filter.
May 29, 2018 20:44:50 #
Tony Northrup is selling clicks, books, and videos, often by saying controversial things. He's the 9/11 conspiracy theorist of photo gurus, in my humble opinion.
It's true that many of the effects of a polarizer on "glare" can be replicated, but advising newbies whom he thinks capable of rotating a filter to deal with glare issues is disingenuous, at the least. If you can't turn a filter and analyze its effects, you're probably not producing Lightroom instructional videos....
He also includes several examples of using a polarizer to correct specular highlights, when this is clearly not their most desirable use. Yes, there are better options within most PP software packages.
The fact is that polarizers do some things that CANNOT be replicated in Post Processing, and when you encounter a situation that needs one, there is no substitute. Yes, many, especially newbies, overuse them, but rejecting them as a tool is as silly as rejecting post processing completely on teh grounds that it's not "authentic". I don't know how high you should go, pricewise, but Meyer has a good reputation.
I've been using polarizers since film days, and while the availability of PP has cut down on the need for them, it's a relatively cheap tool to buy when you need it. You probably have several thousand dollars' worth of gear, so it's a relatively cheap addition for those times when it's the only choice.
Just my opinion, as always....
Andy
It's true that many of the effects of a polarizer on "glare" can be replicated, but advising newbies whom he thinks capable of rotating a filter to deal with glare issues is disingenuous, at the least. If you can't turn a filter and analyze its effects, you're probably not producing Lightroom instructional videos....
He also includes several examples of using a polarizer to correct specular highlights, when this is clearly not their most desirable use. Yes, there are better options within most PP software packages.
The fact is that polarizers do some things that CANNOT be replicated in Post Processing, and when you encounter a situation that needs one, there is no substitute. Yes, many, especially newbies, overuse them, but rejecting them as a tool is as silly as rejecting post processing completely on teh grounds that it's not "authentic". I don't know how high you should go, pricewise, but Meyer has a good reputation.
I've been using polarizers since film days, and while the availability of PP has cut down on the need for them, it's a relatively cheap tool to buy when you need it. You probably have several thousand dollars' worth of gear, so it's a relatively cheap addition for those times when it's the only choice.
Just my opinion, as always....
Andy
May 29, 2018 22:20:04 #
AndyH wrote:
Tony Northrup is selling clicks, books, and videos... (show quote)
The question, remains for me, are these CP's any different, any better, than the cheap versions? I am willing to spend for quality, but on the other hand would like to feel there is a measurable difference between a $20 CP and one that costs $150.
May 29, 2018 23:47:04 #
tinplater wrote:
The question, remains for me, are these CP's any different, any better, than the cheap versions? I am willing to spend for quality, but on the other hand would like to feel there is a measurable difference between a $20 CP and one that costs $150.
I so believe there is a visual difference between a $20 and a high end CP. Fuji typically makes excellent lenses, and I would not compromise the performance of an $800 lens with a $20 piece of glass. Personally, I use B&K, but Marumis are excellent also. I have no personal use knowledge of Meyer-Optik.
May 29, 2018 23:52:29 #
tinplater wrote:
The question, remains for me, are these CP's any different, any better, than the cheap versions? I am willing to spend for quality, but on the other hand would like to feel there is a measurable difference between a $20 CP and one that costs $150.
If there is one piece of glass where a fifty dollar increase in price might have consequences, I would guess it to be a circular polarizer. I use the higher end Hoya models, but that's just old "film Andy" talking. I think the B+W models also get good reviews. Here are some comparisons from the web.
https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Circular-Polarizer-Filters.aspx
https://www.techradar.com/how-to/photography-video-capture/cameras/best-circular-polarizer-filter-5-top-models-tested-and-rated-1320842
https://havecamerawilltravel.com/photographer/polarizing-filter-shootout/
https://www.practicalphotography.com/group-tests-articles/2016/9/2/5-best-value-circular-polarisers
https://improvephotography.com/42653/best-circular-polarizing-filter-money/
https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2017/09/my-not-nearly-complete-but-rather-entertaining-circular-polarizer-filter-article/
My conclusion after reading all of these comparisons, some very personal, others more scientific, I don't think there's a lot of difference between the fifty dollar and two hundred dollar models. I'd try a mid-priced one and see whether it meets your needs. I've got Hoya, Kalt, and Tiffen models in my bag, sized for different lenses. Of these I think the Hoya performs best. But that's just one person's opinion.
Andy
May 30, 2018 07:27:50 #
May 30, 2018 08:15:52 #
If Tony Northrup told me what time it was, I'd pray I had an accurate watch so I could determine that for myself.
The particular video to which you are referring is such a load of crap, I'm embarrassed to even admit to watching it. But, then, I did so out of curiosity. Didn't make it through the entire video, as I said it's a load of crap.
--Bob
The particular video to which you are referring is such a load of crap, I'm embarrassed to even admit to watching it. But, then, I did so out of curiosity. Didn't make it through the entire video, as I said it's a load of crap.
--Bob
mleuck wrote:
Watch Tony Northrup's video and save yourself money. You really do not need a polarizing filter.
May 30, 2018 09:00:01 #
rmalarz wrote:
If Tony Northrup told me what time it was, I'd pray I had an accurate watch so I could determine that for myself.
The particular video to which you are referring is such a load of crap, I'm embarrassed to even admit to watching it. But, then, I did so out of curiosity. Didn't make it through the entire video, as I said it's a load of crap.
--Bob
The particular video to which you are referring is such a load of crap, I'm embarrassed to even admit to watching it. But, then, I did so out of curiosity. Didn't make it through the entire video, as I said it's a load of crap.
--Bob
I didn’t make it all the way through to the end, either. Maybe it improves in the last minute?
Andy
May 30, 2018 09:11:16 #
Yes, there is. The type of glass for one. Other features, especially B+W are Kaesemann foils. Additionally, there is the amount of transmission through the filter that can affect exposure, etc. With CPs, cost does equate to quality.
--Bob
--Bob
tinplater wrote:
The question, remains for me, are these CP's any different, any better, than the cheap versions? I am willing to spend for quality, but on the other hand would like to feel there is a measurable difference between a $20 CP and one that costs $150.
May 30, 2018 09:32:05 #
The name Meyer Optik reminded me of Opteka. My experience with Opteka has been with the 10x addon lens... excellent, multi layers to reduce fringing. Much lower cost than the one that the UHH people chant about; I research and compare how things are made Optika won. The CPF Polarizer by Optika is available direct for $20. For the fun of it I will order one. B+W has a thick and a thin, both highly rated, but expensive; remember more expensive is not always better.... and better is not better if you as a mere human can not see the difference that test interments see.
I recall a HI FI test comparing Monster cord to Generic heavy duty lamp cord. The Monster People in the test were out raged when they could not tell the difference in a blind A/B test. Sound Gate!! Cryogenic treated Monster Cord was very expensive ... for delivering current by welding cable to the wires in the speaker which were the thickness of a whisker.
http://opteka.com/filters.aspx
Or for $10 at Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Opteka-Definition-Multi-Coated-Circular-Polarizing/dp/B000M9H7HI
regarding Meyer Optik it is being brought back to life.... from 80 years ago
https://www.kickstarter.com/discover/advanced?ref=nav_search&term=Meyer+Optik
I recall a HI FI test comparing Monster cord to Generic heavy duty lamp cord. The Monster People in the test were out raged when they could not tell the difference in a blind A/B test. Sound Gate!! Cryogenic treated Monster Cord was very expensive ... for delivering current by welding cable to the wires in the speaker which were the thickness of a whisker.
http://opteka.com/filters.aspx
Or for $10 at Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Opteka-Definition-Multi-Coated-Circular-Polarizing/dp/B000M9H7HI
regarding Meyer Optik it is being brought back to life.... from 80 years ago
https://www.kickstarter.com/discover/advanced?ref=nav_search&term=Meyer+Optik
May 30, 2018 09:54:25 #
TriX wrote:
I so believe there is a visual difference between a $20 and a high end CP. Fuji typically makes excellent lenses, and I would not compromise the performance of an $800 lens with a $20 piece of glass. Personally, I use B&K, but Marumis are excellent also. I have no personal use knowledge of Meyer-Optik.
Meant to say B+W - must have been having a senior moment 🙀.
May 30, 2018 10:00:53 #
mleuck wrote:
Watch Tony Northrup's video and save yourself money. You really do not need a polarizing filter.
You cannot adequately reproduce the polarized effect in post. And even if you could, why not get it right, in the camera and save yourself the time and hassle in post?
May 30, 2018 10:01:05 #
rmalarz wrote:
Yes, there is. The type of glass for one. Other features, especially B+W are Kaesemann foils. Additionally, there is the amount of transmission through the filter that can affect exposure, etc. With CPs, cost does equate to quality.
--Bob
--Bob
Which ones do you recommend? I just looked in my bag and I have a higher end Hoya (cost about $75 for 58 mm) and B+W for the 67mm and 77mm sizes. What's the return on upgrading any of them? (I'm shooting APS, with decent lenses). I understand that the return may be small, but so is the required investment. I may not be able to afford to drive an Aston Martin, but I can generally afford to drink the best coffee, eat the best steak, and buy the best filters.
Thanks!
Andy
May 30, 2018 10:07:08 #
What is this video that is being mentioned?
Photographic gear is much like buying oats. If you want premium quality oats, you will pay a premium price. However, if you are willing to settle for oats that have already been through the horse, well that comes a bit cheaper.
Photographic gear is much like buying oats. If you want premium quality oats, you will pay a premium price. However, if you are willing to settle for oats that have already been through the horse, well that comes a bit cheaper.
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