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May 26, 2018 14:56:25   #
waynetgreen
 
Folks,
Having just upgraded to FF, I have been experimenting with the sharpness control on the D750 and realized there is a noticeable difference between default and +7. I understand this is digital enhancement but the images really do appear sharper, particularly at magnification.
Opinions pro and con regarding this option.
Thanks

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May 26, 2018 15:06:54   #
CO (a regular here)
 
Are you referring to the Picture Controls? Nikon sets the default sharpening for them low at level 3 from what I've seen. Nikon expert, Ken Rockwell. recommends to go through all of them - standard, neutral, vivid, monochrome, and others, and increasing the sharpening to level 6. That's what I've done with mine. It affects the .jpeg files out of the camera. With the .NEF (RAW) files, it inserts information into the RAW file. If you open that .NEF (RAW) file in Nikon software, it will apply those Picture Control settings. Third party software will ignore it.

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May 26, 2018 15:51:43   #
waynetgreen
 
Yes, Picture Control. I have my D750 set to vivid and level 7 with sharpness. Photos really "pop"
Just wondering if there are any disadvantages to these settings. Opinions welcome☺

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May 26, 2018 15:52:00   #
Bill_de (a regular here)
 
CO wrote:
Are you referring to the Picture Controls? Nikon sets the default sharpening for them low at level 3 from what I've seen. Nikon expert, Ken Rockwell. recommends to go through all of them - standard, neutral, vivid, monochrome, and others, and increasing the sharpening to level 6. That's what I've done with mine. It affects the .jpeg files out of the camera. With the .NEF (RAW) files, it inserts information into the RAW file. If you open that .NEF (RAW) file in Nikon software, it will apply those Picture Control settings. Third party software will ignore it.
Are you referring to the Picture Controls? Nikon s... (show quote)


The only thing I would add is that to see the effects in Nikon software, be sure to check "as shot".

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May 26, 2018 20:08:59   #
Gene51 (a regular here)
 
waynetgreen wrote:
Folks,
Having just upgraded to FF, I have been experimenting with the sharpness control on the D750 and realized there is a noticeable difference between default and +7. I understand this is digital enhancement but the images really do appear sharper, particularly at magnification.
Opinions pro and con regarding this option.
Thanks


I'd rather use the minimum settings and boost them in post processing to my taste. Sharpening in conjunction with noise reduction, is a real fine detail killer. Bear in mind that an image that appears "sharp" is sharp because of high contrast. Look at your images up close and see if you are getting more detail or just more contrast.

I shoot raw, so it is a non-issue for me. It can always be as sharp as I need/want it to be.

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May 27, 2018 02:52:54   #
Pablo8
 
I attended a talk some years ago, given by a Nikon Technician, who recommended you to leave settings in camera as standard. Any adjustments should be done in PP, on an individual image basis. (Of course, he could have been 'Moonlighting' for Adobe Photoshop).

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May 27, 2018 07:50:32   #
ToBoldlyGo
 
The problem with this setting is that when you change lenses, you can find your photos are over sharpened. It's fine if you're shooting in raw too, but once sharpened too much, a jpeg can be ruined. I tend to have my sharpening set low, so that jpegs aren't ruined when I need them, and I can edit raw as I like anyway.

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May 27, 2018 08:19:42   #
avemal
 
Where is this feature ?

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May 27, 2018 08:34:09   #
waynetgreen
 
The feature is under Picture Control in the Shooting menu. Select vivid, normal or standard, then right toggle for a sub-menu.

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May 27, 2018 08:36:10   #
srt101fan (a regular here)
 
avemal wrote:
Where is this feature ?


Deleted - redundant

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May 27, 2018 10:55:51   #
billnikon (a regular here)
 
waynetgreen wrote:
Folks,
Having just upgraded to FF, I have been experimenting with the sharpness control on the D750 and realized there is a noticeable difference between default and +7. I understand this is digital enhancement but the images really do appear sharper, particularly at magnification.
Opinions pro and con regarding this option.
Thanks


I usually leave the sharpness level at the default setting. But I have played with the VIVID setting with great success. If you have noticed a difference then that is a good thing. It is, after all, why camera manufactures add these options, to allow the user to modify the camera to their particular tastes. Good for you.

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May 27, 2018 11:17:35   #
Acoustics
 
This post reminds me of a broader issue regarding setting up a camera. I have a Nikon D810, and have only taken raw photos since I began using a digital camera thirteen years ago. Recently I have used Lightroom starting with version 2 and DxO software. I soon realized that very few of the camera settings other than the basics (shutter speed, F stop, etc.) affect the images imported into this software. I know that Nikon software uses all camera settings as presets, and of course, they are vital if you acquire jpegs. However, they seem to be irrelevant to the software with which I work. They are useful if one wishes to check the image that is captured in what apparently is called "chumming?" ( I never heard of this word being used for this review practice until I joined this forum.) My question is: Why is this fundamental fact not made more evident? I did not see it mentioned in any camera manual, nor in any of the books on the various camera models I have purchased. I even wrote to the authors of two camera books, one on the D7100 the other on the D810, asking the question. Neither author replied. Am I missing something?

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May 27, 2018 14:21:08   #
drklrd
 
waynetgreen wrote:
Folks,
Having just upgraded to FF, I have been experimenting with the sharpness control on the D750 and realized there is a noticeable difference between default and +7. I understand this is digital enhancement but the images really do appear sharper, particularly at magnification.
Opinions pro and con regarding this option.
Thanks


Which function are you talking about? There is a function in camera that helps sharpness at a cost to lens focus speed. I use it all of my lenses. Each lens gets a little extra but if you are shooting sports you have to dial it back in camera to no more than a +1 otherwise your lens takes more time to focus and you miss a shot or the shot is fuzzy due to lack of speedy lens focus.

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May 27, 2018 14:42:53   #
ToBoldlyGo
 
drklrd wrote:
Which function are you talking about? There is a function in camera that helps sharpness at a cost to lens focus speed. I use it all of my lenses. Each lens gets a little extra but if you are shooting sports you have to dial it back in camera to no more than a +1 otherwise your lens takes more time to focus and you miss a shot or the shot is fuzzy due to lack of speedy lens focus.


If you read the post, this question is answered. Picture Control. What feature are you taking about, I have a D500 and am not aware of this? Are you sure it works as you describe?

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May 27, 2018 15:38:59   #
camerapapi (a regular here)
 
I am not so sure that sharpening in camera is applied to RAW files. I do know that the RAW editor apply sharpness to the file. Many times I do not apply sharpness in post to my RAW file because the file is already sharp enough for my taste.
I seldom saturate my images except in rare cases, flowers tend to be one of those cases.

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