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May 25, 2018 11:41:38   #
Redmond
 
I have been trying to learn how to use this lens. I keep going to this same spot and trying different things to get a foamy look picture of the rushing water. My camera, d3200 Nikon I am using GRAUFILTER 8X. I was not able to get any kind of shot that was not overexposed. I was using a tripod with a plug in thingy (dlc) such professional words from a novice. Also camera in manuel mode in bulb mode. I deleated all the pictures because they were so overexposed. I'm beginning to think that B&H sold me the wrong lens. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for any suggestions. Note sunny day clear sky. I will show a picture I got when in aperature mode.


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May 25, 2018 11:56:43   #
nikonbrain
 
Usually any outdoor shot of silky water in bright sunlight , needs few things to accomplice low ISO, low shutter speed , tiny f stop f16 f22 ,and in bright sunlight a variable neutral density filter to harness the extreme brightness , the later the most important ....this is true of any lens . I don't know of your lens , so I can't comment but see if it takes a normal image well if it does there is nothing wrong with the lens ,Just technique...

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May 25, 2018 13:12:54   #
rgrenaderphoto (a regular here)
 
Redmond wrote:
I have been trying to learn how to use this lens. I keep going to this same spot and trying different things to get a foamy look picture of the rushing water. My camera, d3200 Nikon I am using GRAUFILTER 8X. I was not able to get any kind of shot that was not overexposed. I was using a tripod with a plug in thingy (dlc) such professional words from a novice. Also camera in manuel mode in bulb mode. I deleated all the pictures because they were so overexposed. I'm beginning to think that B&H sold me the wrong lens. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for any suggestions. Note sunny day clear sky. I will show a picture I got when in aperature mode.
I have been trying to learn how to use this lens. ... (show quote)


WIth all due respect, it ain't the lens, it's your technique. The lens has nothing to do with getting milky water. Your posted image was too fast, at 1/320th

If you are going to use an 8X ND filter, then download the Lee Big Stopper app from the app store of whatever smartphone you have. The app works with Lee's 6x, 10x ND 15X filters but your 8X will fit just fine with the 6x settings. If you don't have a smartphone, you can download the Big Stopper exposure chart on the web. Oh, you'll need a remote release if you want really long exposures, and a tripod.

Frame your shot, focus and for starters, I put the camera into program mode, get the exposure settings, transfer them into manual mode and take a few test shots to get the flowing water right, but not in a "milky" way. Lets say, for discussions sake, you are at Sunny 16 settings, 100th sec, F/16, ISO 100. The Lee app, for 100th sec, gives an exposure time of .06 sec, which you can do easily on camera without a release. Set your camera for 2 sec delay, click the shutter and go. It is also a good idea to cover your viewfinder with something to prevent light leaking into your image, which will produce a red cast. I've ruined several shots forgetting to do this.

Without the filter . try a 1/4. 1/6 or 1/8th of a sec. With the 8x filter, @ 1/320th, an exposure of 1/4 sec would produce the results you are looking for.

Look at my profiles for recent photographs from Yosemite for examples.

Hope this clarifies things.

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May 25, 2018 13:31:29   #
Redmond
 
Awesome pictures thanks again for your help.Jack

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May 26, 2018 09:43:32   #
aflundi
 
As already pointed out, if you want silky, you need a long shutter time. Lowering ISO, shutting down the aperture, and adding ND filters all help, but less ambient light will also get your shutter speed down. Go back as it is getting dark and try again.

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May 26, 2018 09:45:12   #
suntouched
 
One mistake that some make is having ISO on auto (with camera in manual) which will defeat the process :)

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May 26, 2018 10:38:38   #
Redmond
 
Thank you for your suggestions, I almost went last evening , very nice idea thank you.

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May 26, 2018 20:28:10   #
Redmond
 
I tried to post on the other topic, but I did something wrong and lost my reply sigh. Thank you all for all the help suggestions, I think I am close to what I am trying to do. It might be a little bit overdone...


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Jun 10, 2018 19:46:01   #
cheineck
 
Redmond wrote:
I tried to post on the other topic, but I did something wrong and lost my reply sigh. Thank you all for all the help suggestions, I think I am close to what I am trying to do. It might be a little bit overdone...


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Aug 23, 2018 21:11:46   #
IDguy (a regular here)
 
As noted, it isn’t the lens. My favorite lens for my D5600.

Also use spot or center metering on the water. You need at least 1/4 sec to smooth such fast water.

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Aug 24, 2018 19:42:26   #
DanielB (a regular here)
 
Remove the Date Stamp!!!
Redmond wrote:
I tried to post on the other topic, but I did something wrong and lost my reply sigh. Thank you all for all the help suggestions, I think I am close to what I am trying to do. It might be a little bit overdone...

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Dec 20, 2018 03:28:05   #
Pablo8
 
DanielB wrote:
Remove the Date Stamp!!!


WHY??? If it helps the poster remember when he took the picture. The picture belongs to him, and is not breaking any 'competition rules'.

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Dec 22, 2018 10:43:46   #
Thomas902
 
the Sigma 17-50mm F2.8 EX DC OS HSM Nikon is an awesome optic for your D3200
https://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Sigma/17-50mm-f-2.8-EX-DC-OS-HSM-Nikon-mounted-on-Nikon-D3200__801

Since it has a 77mm filter thread the world is your oyster.... lots of great choices for Neutral Density filters...
I use a B+W 77mm MRC 110M Solid Neutral Density 3.0 Filter (10 Stop) to tame dynamic aquatic narratives...
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/752928-REG/B_W_1066186_77mm_110_Solid_Neutral.html
It works awesome! I was surprised that Nikon's Auto Exposure handled it with excellent results...

Likely the same as your B+W Graufilter 8x E46mm MRC F-Pro...

As for composition? Get down lower... much lower and much closer.... that optic has stellar DOF stopped down... use it!

Enjoy your holiday!
Thank you for sharing Redmond...

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