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Will smart phone cameras replace DSLRs in the future?
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Apr 14, 2018 02:03:22   #
tdekany
 
adm wrote:
Whatever a smart phone can do, a real camera (even a crop sensor one) can do better.


How about uploading to social media as fast as an iPhone?

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Apr 14, 2018 03:22:58   #
ToBoldlyGo
 
Architect1776 wrote:
I still say the cell phone has replaced the DSLR. For a while the DSLR and PS cameras were all there was. Then the cell phone showed op and has pretty much wiped out the PS cameras and has now wiped out the DSLR/Mirrorless. Those who now purchase the DSLR/Mirrorless are those who bought the SLRs of the past, the photo enthusiast and pro. The rest used instamatics/polaroids. For a while during the growth of the cell phone there was a gap and many bought the Rebel type of DSLR and some the PS camera. But now we are where the DSLR?Mirrorless has reverted again to the enthusiast/pro while all else is pretty much a cell phone.
There will always or until a major breakthrough be the DSLR/Mirrorless camera for the enthusiast/pro. So yes the cell phone has replaced, in society, the DSLR.
I still say the cell phone has replaced the DSLR. ... (show quote)


Have you been to tourist spots in the last year or two? Nowadays they are full of people with a DSLR. Theme parks are full of people lugging around a DSLR. How can you think fewer people are using them?😊

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Apr 14, 2018 03:23:48   #
ToBoldlyGo
 
John_F wrote:
Owing to the dimensions and geometry of any smartphone the buildable optics will be linited. Someone mentioned attachment lenses - look carefully, they do fisheye, closeup/macro, and linited wide angle. No telephoto.


Look carefully, they do telephoto. 😊

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Apr 14, 2018 06:07:24   #
traderjohn (a regular here)
 
ToBoldlyGo wrote:
Have you been to tourist spots in the last year or two? Nowadays they are full of people with a DSLR. Theme parks are full of people lugging around a DSLR. How can you think fewer people are using them?😊


The biggest tell is the age group. The children of those "lugging around a DSLR" gravitate to cell phones for everything.

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Apr 14, 2018 06:18:47   #
ToBoldlyGo
 
traderjohn wrote:
The biggest tell is the age group. The children of those "lugging around a DSLR" gravitate to cell phones for everything.


Just like the children used to start with a compact. Very few children in any time would begin with a changeable lens camera, when there are more affordable ways to find out if they have a real passion for photography.

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Apr 14, 2018 06:35:43   #
Architect1776 (a regular here)
 
ToBoldlyGo wrote:
Have you been to tourist spots in the last year or two? Nowadays they are full of people with a DSLR. Theme parks are full of people lugging around a DSLR. How can you think fewer people are using them?😊


I get around.
Even in my office I have 2 PS cameras for taking photos at sites and they are never used. Cell phones.
On the site and even for official inspections for record the inspectors use cell phones.
I go to public events and there are no DSLRs just cell phones at them including parades.

As I have said, the enthusiast will still buy a "real" camera. But for the general public it is long dead and the cell phone has replaced it.
I am going to an event today. Will let you know how many DSLRs will be there in the general public's hands.

As I stated the lower end DSLRs will be owned by those who would have been using an FTb or a Nikkormat. Pros will use higher end items. But the instamatic crowd has gone cell phone not DSLR.

Finally why have DSLR/Mirrorless sales not shown the growth suggested. You are right there are a lot of DSLR users and thank God there are so they will continue to be made as there are still those who want the quality. My argument is for those wanting an instamatic have dropped the DSLR and gone elsewhere. My youngest daughter dropped the cell phone and went DSLR for the better image which is encouraging but that is not the rule but the exception.

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Apr 14, 2018 07:28:13   #
davefales
 
Dr.Nikon wrote:
Wow ..., 3080 + and counting ...this article hit a raw nerve .., for sure ...a moment captured be it a brownie . cell phone ., bridge .., mirrorless DX .. FX .., 8X10 billows .on and on is still a picture .. a snap shot in time ... the market and the trends of the world present and future .., drive the economic engine here which is king ..


Have fun shooting pictures with whatever you have at the time or can afford ...its like discussing politics or religion ... there is no real answer ., just arguments and disagreements ....

I just attached a few cell phone shots to make a point 2) is a IPHONE 6plus ..1) Note 8
Wow ..., 3080 + and counting ...this article hit a... (show quote)


No. 2 is certainly evocative. I want to be in that scene.

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Apr 14, 2018 10:31:39   #
dswoff01
 
The best camera is the one that you have in your hands when that amazing shot comes into view.

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Apr 14, 2018 11:04:08   #
BebuLamar (a regular here)
 
Would smartphones replace DSLR's in the future? I have to ask in which way?
1. Would a smartphone ever replace a DSLR for me? No, it's simply not a DSLR or SLR.
2. Would a large number of people now using DSLR would switch to using smartphones for what they are photographing with DSLR now? The answer is yes.

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Apr 14, 2018 12:05:37   #
John_F (a regular here)
 
Quite a while ago for my iPhone 4s I bought the Olloclip lens kit. It did not have a telephoto. Since then I have watched the lens specs listed on the box of the products being offered and have not noted a telephoto or even a normal. But I haven't looked in some 6 months. What is the name of the one you found.


ToBoldlyGo wrote:
Look carefully, they do telephoto. 😊

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Apr 14, 2018 12:09:53   #
ToBoldlyGo
 
John_F wrote:
Quite a while ago for my iPhone 4s I bought the Olloclip lens kit. It did not have a telephoto. Since then I have watched the lens specs listed on the box of the products being offered and have not noted a telephoto or even a normal. But I haven't looked in some 6 months. What is the name of the one you found.


Just look on Amazon or eBay.I don't think Olloclip make one, but they are easy to get, I've seen them in some shops too. You can also get microscope lenses as well as some pretty good general macro ones.

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Apr 14, 2018 13:27:14   #
bittermelon
 
1. Can a "real camera" make a phone call?
2. Can a "real camera" post a photo directly to FB, Instagram, Whatsapp, etc?
3. Can a "real camera" be carried in my shirt pocket?

Not that one is better than the other. They just serve different functions. There is no rule that says one cannot use both.

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Apr 14, 2018 14:58:27   #
rehess (a regular here)
 
bittermelon wrote:
There is no rule that says one cannot use both.

In fact, in the past week or so I've personally posted here pictures taken with each:

with phone
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-522899-1.html

with SLR
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-523581-1.html

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Apr 14, 2018 15:10:41   #
Architect1776 (a regular here)
 
gvarner wrote:
Nope. Not everybody is a snapshooter doing the things that you mentioned. Some people buy Jeeps and some people buy Cadillacs so they can get from point A to point B. They all get there eventually but it's the ride that counts.


But with a Jeep you get there no matter what.

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Apr 15, 2018 07:17:56   #
traderjohn (a regular here)
 
ToBoldlyGo wrote:
Just like the children used to start with a compact. Very few children in any time would begin with a changeable lens camera, when there are more affordable ways to find out if they have a real passion for photography.


Children was a wrong choice of words. You are of course correct in your response to my use of the word. My train of thought was their"children" who were on their own, working and making choices. Last year my daughter was married. There were 150 people at the reception. They are both 40. Both of them professionals. The guest list was pretty varied. There were three DSLR's at the reception. Those belonged to the wedding photographer and her two assistants. Cell phones were the weapon of choice for those who were taking pictures and videos.
My contention is as the population that uses DSLR's ages (us..me) and mobility becomes a problem those behind them they are not driven to care or have a great interest in what the various camera companies are offering.

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