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Apr 13, 2018 18:42:05   #
James R. Kyle Loc: Saint Louis, Missouri (A Suburb of Ferguson)
 
rmalarz wrote:
Not for me, Jen. Smart phones are for making phone calls. Cameras are for making photographs. I try not to get either to multi-task by taking the other's responsibilities. But, then, that's just me.

To me, the print, and a large one at that, is the final stage of a photograph. Phones just don't cut it with a 24x36 print.
--Bob


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True!

No more than the digital camera would replace the film camera. Each has their purpose and use.

Like my film cameras and my digitals.

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Apr 13, 2018 19:12:49   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
I come from the days of film and print and enlarging. I don't have a smart phone (all my phone does is make calls) so I don't know the quality of a print enlarged to 11x14 or 16x20. I know my crop sensor cameras do an admirable job as prints that size; I doubt a cell phone camera can -- but, since I don't have a cell phone camera, I may be wrong.

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Apr 13, 2018 19:43:11   #
74images Loc: Los Angeles, California
 
Stash wrote:
Not for me. I'm old school and prefer a camera that was made for that purpose. I don't need a camera that plays games,
surf the internet, texts, etc., etc., etc. That's why I still have flip phone I guess and not a so called smart phone..


Amen Brother!

74images

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Apr 13, 2018 19:51:07   #
dar_clicks Loc: Utah
 
PhotoFem wrote:
I see people using iphones, smart phones and now even with new lens attachments to take photos of everyday life...and even nature. Perhaps, this is because they can instantaneously post their images on Facebook and Instagram. Instagram even has rudimentary tools to improve bad images...or, even alter their original look.
Any thoughts on this?

Thanks,
Jen

. On this and some other topics we often can be too quick to believe we must think in terms of “either or,” which probably isn’t necessary.
. I like using any kind of camera that works and is available or chosen for a given situation, whether it’s housing is conventional or part of a phone ... and I’m a guy who really liked my old clamshell and hated to switch to smart phone.
. Several kinds of phones that folks use nowadays can help produce great photos if used well.

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Apr 13, 2018 19:53:06   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
AndyH wrote:
Interesting points of view on this, although some of the predictions of doom seem a little overboard.

There is no question that cell phones will replace point and shoot cameras for casual family photographs - they mostly have already. There is also no question that professional photographers will need professional tools with the latest technology (Remember the first fully automatic SLR 35s?) and it looks like those will eventually turn to mirrorless models.

My question is this: Will the advanced amateur / photo hobbyist, whatever you choose to call a person who spends significant time and money seeking photos and displaying them as a matter of pride, turn away from dedicated equipment to make use of a tool they already have in their pocket in a more advanced way?

I've never thought so, but I sure see a lot of ads, social network posts, videos, etc. pushing people to improve their cell phone photography skills. Is this trend replacing equipment in the hands of actual photo hobbyists? Or is it motivating the family snapshooters to become owners of more advanced gear?
Interesting points of view on this, although some ... (show quote)


I still say the cell phone has replaced the DSLR. For a while the DSLR and PS cameras were all there was. Then the cell phone showed op and has pretty much wiped out the PS cameras and has now wiped out the DSLR/Mirrorless. Those who now purchase the DSLR/Mirrorless are those who bought the SLRs of the past, the photo enthusiast and pro. The rest used instamatics/polaroids. For a while during the growth of the cell phone there was a gap and many bought the Rebel type of DSLR and some the PS camera. But now we are where the DSLR?Mirrorless has reverted again to the enthusiast/pro while all else is pretty much a cell phone.
There will always or until a major breakthrough be the DSLR/Mirrorless camera for the enthusiast/pro. So yes the cell phone has replaced, in society, the DSLR.

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Apr 13, 2018 20:06:06   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
Architect1776 wrote:
I still say the cell phone has replaced the DSLR. For a while the DSLR and PS cameras were all there was. Then the cell phone showed op and has pretty much wiped out the PS cameras and has now wiped out the DSLR/Mirrorless. Those who now purchase the DSLR/Mirrorless are those who bought the SLRs of the past, the photo enthusiast and pro. The rest used instamatics/polaroids. For a while during the growth of the cell phone there was a gap and many bought the Rebel type of DSLR and some the PS camera. But now we are where the DSLR?Mirrorless has reverted again to the enthusiast/pro while all else is pretty much a cell phone.
There will always or until a major breakthrough be the DSLR/Mirrorless camera for the enthusiast/pro. So yes the cell phone has replaced, in society, the DSLR.
I still say the cell phone has replaced the DSLR. ... (show quote)


Not for me (and I am sure a lot of others).... as someone else said here it's not either/or but just another option - I use both depending on the circumstance. In NYC Times Square I see a lot of people (tourists) with a lot of difference cameras - DSLR, ML, and smartphone, and in many cases they are using both a smartphone with one other type. In some cases I still see wind levers (film cameras)! I just cleaned hundreds of photos from my smartphone, but I still use the DSLR for more serious shots.... sure you can buy an aftermarket clip on zoom lens for your phone but for best quality you need a larger sensor even if it's M43. I do like the smartphone also for making quick copies of documents and clippings, or ads that I want to investigate further.

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Apr 13, 2018 20:37:42   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
Owing to the dimensions and geometry of any smartphone the buildable optics will be linited. Someone mentioned attachment lenses - look carefully, they do fisheye, closeup/macro, and linited wide angle. No telephoto.

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Apr 13, 2018 20:42:16   #
JeffDavidson Loc: Originally Detroit Now Los Angeles
 
It won't happen with a smartphone for a photographer but maybe a snap-shooter.

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Apr 13, 2018 20:58:20   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Wrong thread- moved.

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Apr 13, 2018 21:13:02   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Besperus wrote:
Technology has been used to help people develope skills and interest in recording history and how life impacts their lives. Cameras on a cell phone have done this just as box cameras and 8mm movie cameras have aided and pushed manufactures in this development. Superior imaging is still the purview of larger imaging systems such as the current DSLR and the upcoming FF mirrorless technologies. Point and shoot cameras have slowly gone the way of the disc camera, 110, 127 film cameras, but there are the die hards which produce artful interesting images today using old technology.
I have seen what NASA and the NSA can do with gangs of cell phone cameras mounted in satellites, 1200 cameras interconnected pointed at earth can read a newspaper held in a person’s hands from hundreds of miles up!
But no, as tech progresses cell phone, all technology will improve. Tiny cameras in cell phones or ware able devices will improve as will DSLR devices. How would you like a DSLR with 100 megapixels or 200?
Technology has been used to help people develope s... (show quote)


Canon already is using a 250 mp dslr sensor with EF lenses.

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Apr 13, 2018 21:42:14   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
No, not for serious photographers. For selfies and casual snapshots, they already have.

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Apr 13, 2018 22:39:42   #
adm
 
I am with the vast majority of those weighing in above that the smartphone will not replace the DSLR or other high end cameras for professionals and serious amateurs. The smartphone has made substantial inroads into the point and shoot market but this is for the mass market, point and shoot crowd, the kind of people that would have used instamatics 50 years ago. A smartphone would generally not be satisfying to a serious amateur or pro because of its relatively low image quality, limited optics, and lack of manual options. The only serious challenge to the DSLR comes from interchangeable lens mirrorless cameras of comparable quality. I refer you to the thread on that topic of a few days ago.

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Apr 13, 2018 23:48:50   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
PhotoFem wrote:
I see people using iphones, smart phones and now even with new lens attachments to take photos of everyday life...and even nature. Perhaps, this is because they can instantaneously post their images on Facebook and Instagram. Instagram even has rudimentary tools to improve bad images...or, even alter their original look.
Any thoughts on this?

Thanks,
Jen


My iPhone is great as a fixed-lens snapshot camera. It does not replace my mirrorless Lumix GH4. But the Lumix replaced my Canon and Nikon dSLR (and film SLR) systems.

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Apr 13, 2018 23:55:02   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
photoman022 wrote:
I come from the days of film and print and enlarging. I don't have a smart phone (all my phone does is make calls) so I don't know the quality of a print enlarged to 11x14 or 16x20. I know my crop sensor cameras do an admirable job as prints that size; I doubt a cell phone camera can -- but, since I don't have a cell phone camera, I may be wrong.


Yes you are wrong, but it is ok.

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Apr 14, 2018 01:00:13   #
adm
 
Whatever a smart phone can do, a real camera (even a crop sensor one) can do better.

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