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Apr 15, 2018 07:31:24   #
ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.
 
traderjohn wrote:
Children was a wrong choice of words. You are of course correct in your response to my use of the word. My train of thought was their"children" who were on their own, working and making choices. Last year my daughter was married. There were 150 people at the reception. They are both 40. Both of them professionals. The guest list was pretty varied. There were three DSLR's at the reception. Those belonged to the wedding photographer and her two assistants. Cell phones were the weapon of choice for those who were taking pictures and videos.
My contention is as the population that uses DSLR's ages (us..me) and mobility becomes a problem those behind them they are not driven to care or have a great interest in what the various camera companies are offering.
Children was a wrong choice of words. You are of c... (show quote)


The market does seem to disagree with you though. There is plenty of money driving advances in high end digital imaging, and it may well be partly driven by youth making online content, and I include YouTube here. If anything, the high end camera market exploded with digital. Yes it will go through dips too, but I don't think it's going to fade away.

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Apr 15, 2018 07:58:29   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
ToBoldlyGo wrote:
The market does seem to disagree with you though. There is plenty of money driving advances in high end digital imaging, and it may well be partly driven by youth making online content, and I include YouTube here. If anything, the high end camera market exploded with digital. Yes it will go through dips too, but I don't think it's going to fade away.


No...not fade. Just lose market share.

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Apr 15, 2018 08:06:25   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
PhotoFem wrote:
I see people using iphones, smart phones and now even with new lens attachments to take photos of everyday life...and even nature. Perhaps, this is because they can instantaneously post their images on Facebook and Instagram. Instagram even has rudimentary tools to improve bad images...or, even alter their original look.
Any thoughts on this?

Thanks,
Jen


"Smart" phone? The oxymoron of these times. Does "smart" identify the item or the user?

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Apr 15, 2018 08:40:01   #
ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.
 
davidrb wrote:
"Smart" phone? The oxymoron of these times. Does "smart" identify the item or the user?


What are you suggesting about the intelligence of a smartphone user?

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Apr 15, 2018 11:19:35   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
davidrb wrote:
"Smart" phone? The oxymoron of these times. Does "smart" identify the item or the user?


Do people who use DSLR's not use smartphones??

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Apr 15, 2018 11:56:23   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
traderjohn wrote:
Do people who use DSLR's not use smartphones??


Heaven forbid.

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Apr 15, 2018 12:01:45   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
davidrb wrote:
"Smart" phone? The oxymoron of these times. Does "smart" identify the item or the user?


Yes on both counts. (Did you somehow miss Steve Jobs’ presentation at MacWorld in January, 2007? If so, YouTube has a copy.)

A dumb phone just makes calls and perhaps sends text messages.

Smartphones are very powerful computers that can do (quite literally!) millions of different things, just by downloading apps and connecting to the Internet.

I use mine as a:

Phone
Text messenger
Radio
TV
Movie player
Music player
Weather checker
Notepad
Reminder with alarms
Calendar
Compass
Level
Calculator
Internet browser
Email client
Network tester
Word processor
PDF reader
Kindle Reader
iBook reader
Camera/image editor
Video camera/editor
FAX
Barcode scanner
Regular document scanner
Clock, alarm clock, stop watch, timer
White noise generator for easier sleeping
Multi-track audio recorder
Ruler
Map/GPS with turn-by-turn audio guidance
Voice memo recorder
Video dialog recorder
Text to speech and speech to text converters
Travel agent (hotels, flights, rental cars, restaurant finder)
“Yellow Pages” (lookup anything or anyone)
Light meter
Depth of field calculator
MILC Camera remote control with live view
WiFi transfer of MILC camera media to the web
Unit of measurement conversions
Inflation calculator
Network router management
Skype and FaceTime video calls
List of contacts (rotary card file info)
Spreadsheets
Presentations
DropBox and iCloud access
WebEx and GoToMeeting clients
Online banking
Stock market monitor
News reader(s)
Internet shopping (Amazon, Walmart, Target, many others)
Dog whistle
Sound sweep generator
Car scanner

...and too many others to list.

The smartphone is arguably the single-most market-disruptive device ever invented. Its impact is felt in nearly everything that happens daily.

Examples from yesterday (context: I’m on vacation):

“Hey, Siri, get me directions to the nearest Walmart.” (Result: instant turn-by-turn audio guidance)

“Hey, Siri, what are popular things to see and do in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia?” (Result: lots of links)

(while driving) “Hey, Siri, read my texts.” (Result: text to speech conversion, with opportunity to reply with speech to text... all hands-free.)

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Apr 15, 2018 12:25:37   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
davidrb wrote:
"Smart" phone? The oxymoron of these times. Does "smart" identify the item or the user?

The computer in a 'smart phone' is more powerful than the one used to land Apollo on the moon - and the camera harnesses that power. Not an oxymoron at all

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Apr 15, 2018 15:49:24   #
MW
 
No

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Apr 15, 2018 15:52:46   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
With the possible exception of professional models its not a question of if...its when.

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Apr 15, 2018 16:31:00   #
Tom G Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
Bill_de wrote:
No. But something else might.


Jen asked: Any thoughts on this?

And you answer: No. But something else might.

And, I ask: Might what?

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Apr 15, 2018 16:32:32   #
Tom G Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
rmalarz wrote:
Not for me, Jen. Smart phones are for making phone calls. Cameras are for making photographs. I try not to get either to multi-task by taking the other's responsibilities. But, then, that's just me.

To me, the print, and a large one at that, is the final stage of a photograph. Phones just don't cut it with a 24x36 print.
--Bob



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Apr 15, 2018 16:34:04   #
Tom G Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
Congrats on Bailing from FB

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Apr 15, 2018 21:11:11   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
burkphoto wrote:
Yes on both counts. (Did you somehow miss Steve Jobs’ presentation at MacWorld in January, 2007? If so, YouTube has a copy.)

A dumb phone just makes calls and perhaps sends text messages.

Smartphones are very powerful computers that can do (quite literally!) millions of different things, just by downloading apps and connecting to the Internet.

I use mine as a:

Phone
Text messenger
Radio
TV
Movie player
Music player
Weather checker
Notepad
Reminder with alarms
Calendar
Compass
Level
Calculator
Internet browser
Email client
Network tester
Word processor
PDF reader
Kindle Reader
iBook reader
Camera/image editor
Video camera/editor
FAX
Barcode scanner
Regular document scanner
Clock, alarm clock, stop watch, timer
White noise generator for easier sleeping
Multi-track audio recorder
Ruler
Map/GPS with turn-by-turn audio guidance
Voice memo recorder
Video dialog recorder
Text to speech and speech to text converters
Travel agent (hotels, flights, rental cars, restaurant finder)
“Yellow Pages” (lookup anything or anyone)
Light meter
Depth of field calculator
MILC Camera remote control with live view
WiFi transfer of MILC camera media to the web
Unit of measurement conversions
Inflation calculator
Network router management
Skype and FaceTime video calls
List of contacts (rotary card file info)
Spreadsheets
Presentations
DropBox and iCloud access
WebEx and GoToMeeting clients
Online banking
Stock market monitor
News reader(s)
Internet shopping (Amazon, Walmart, Target, many others)
Dog whistle
Sound sweep generator
Car scanner

...and too many others to list.

The smartphone is arguably the single-most market-disruptive device ever invented. Its impact is felt in nearly everything that happens daily.

Examples from yesterday (context: I’m on vacation):

“Hey, Siri, get me directions to the nearest Walmart.” (Result: instant turn-by-turn audio guidance)

“Hey, Siri, what are popular things to see and do in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia?” (Result: lots of links)

(while driving) “Hey, Siri, read my texts.” (Result: text to speech conversion, with opportunity to reply with speech to text... all hands-free.)
Yes on both counts. (Did you somehow miss Steve Jo... (show quote)


Bill, why such a short list? I am sure that my grandkids have 2 or 3 times the size of your list!

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Apr 15, 2018 21:28:42   #
BebuLamar
 
davidrb wrote:
"Smart" phone? The oxymoron of these times. Does "smart" identify the item or the user?


The user, as I don't know how to use it. You gotta be smart to use one of them thing.

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