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Feb 4, 2018 19:07:52   #
Dziadzi Loc: Wilkes-Barre, PA
 
I continue to try to perfect my indoor basketball photos. With 6 grandkids, I have plenty of willing subjects.





















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Feb 5, 2018 10:59:27   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
Dziadzi wrote:
I continue to try to perfect my indoor basketball photos. With 6 grandkids, I have plenty of willing subjects.


What kind of equipment are you working with? Once we know that we can help you. In the meantime try to fill the frame with your subject. No backs.

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Feb 5, 2018 13:12:24   #
ducwic Loc: Milwaukee, Wi.
 
Dziadzi wrote:
I continue to try to perfect my indoor basketball photos. With 6 grandkids, I have plenty of willing subjects.


Of the 10 posted photos, only 4 have captured the basketball.
Try to capture the BB more.

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Feb 5, 2018 13:25:36   #
Dziadzi Loc: Wilkes-Barre, PA
 
Jules Karney wrote:
What kind of equipment are you working with? Once we know that we can help you. In the meantime try to fill the frame with your subject. No backs.


Thanks, Jules. Here it is, Nikon D7100, Nikon 85mm f1.8G. Shutter speed 1250, aperature 1.8, ISO 1250 or 1600. The last two photos were in a gym that was lit like a dungeon. Let me know what else might be helpful and relevant.

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Feb 5, 2018 13:28:50   #
Dziadzi Loc: Wilkes-Barre, PA
 
ducwic wrote:
Of the 10 posted photos, only 4 have captured the basketball.
Try to capture the BB more.


Ducwic, thanks for your feedback. My grandson plays JV ball and sometimes Varsity. So, I try to get candids of him. Some of the backs were not the focal point as my grandson was of to the side. Note to self....capture more BB.

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Feb 5, 2018 14:17:36   #
67skylark27 Loc: Fort Atkinson, WI
 
I would try a slower shutter speed and get the ISO down to 1000 or 1250, 1250 is the max I'd go.
Try some different focus types maybe - I use center point focus - AF-C Continous and make sure
my subject is dead center. I shoot in burst mode high and try to get 3 shots, the focus even
varies a touch between the shots as the subject moves.
I've grabbed good action basketball shots as low as 1/500th.
Maybe 9 point would work also for focus, in your 7th shot I see the ref and background is
in focus and not the player, he is just left of center and maybe that is why.

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Feb 5, 2018 14:54:19   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
Dziadzi wrote:
Thanks, Jules. Here it is, Nikon D7100, Nikon 85mm f1.8G. Shutter speed 1250, aperature 1.8, ISO 1250 or 1600. The last two photos were in a gym that was lit like a dungeon. Let me know what else might be helpful and relevant.


Hi again: I have a 7100 also. It's a good camera but the iso has some limits. First you don't need 1/1250 to stop the action. Try 1/800 at 2.8 which will lower your iso settings to about 1000. I shoot ac ac continuous. Either single point or group focus settings. Check your white balance. Sometimes auto wb will do, other gyms you might try cool florescent, etc. Always shoot tight filling your frame with the subject and like I said before no backs or butts. Practice this and don't rely on post processing. Cropping and sharpening a lot presents image degradation. Practice and more practice. Basketball is a tough sport because of the fast action but you will get it.
Good luck. This forum has some wonderful pro and amateur photographers to help you along the way.

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Feb 5, 2018 15:02:41   #
Dziadzi Loc: Wilkes-Barre, PA
 
67skylark27 wrote:
I would try a slower shutter speed and get the ISO down to 1000 or 1250, 1250 is the max I'd go.
Try some different focus types maybe - I use center point focus - AF-C Continous and make sure
my subject is dead center. I shoot in burst mode high and try to get 3 shots, the focus even
varies a touch between the shots as the subject moves.
I've grabbed good action basketball shots as low as 1/500th.
Maybe 9 point would work also for focus, in your 7th shot I see the ref and background is
in focus and not the player, he is just left of center and maybe that is why.
I would try a slower shutter speed and get the ISO... (show quote)


I use center point focus, AF-C Continous and I try to make surre that my subject is dead center. I shoot in burst mode low.
I get a lot of blur with anything below 1/1000th.

Thanks for your feedback. I will try your suggestions and see what happens.

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Feb 5, 2018 15:07:43   #
Dziadzi Loc: Wilkes-Barre, PA
 
Jules Karney wrote:
Hi again: I have a 7100 also. It's a good camera but the iso has some limits. First you don't need 1/1250 to stop the action. Try 1/800 at 2.8 which will lower your iso settings to about 1000. I shoot ac ac continuous. Either single point or group focus settings. Check your white balance. Sometimes auto wb will do, other gyms you might try cool florescent, etc. Always shoot tight filling your frame with the subject and like I said before no backs or butts. Practice this and don't rely on post processing. Cropping and sharpening a lot presents image degradation. Practice and more practice. Basketball is a tough sport because of the fast action but you will get it.
Good luck. This forum has some wonderful pro and amateur photographers to help you along the way.
Hi again: I have a 7100 also. It's a good camera... (show quote)


I set the WB with an Expodisc, it seems to serve me well. I will try your suggestions and see what happens. Thanks!

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Feb 5, 2018 15:22:00   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
[quote=Dziadzi]I use center point focus, AF-C Continous and I try to make surre that my subject is dead center. I shoot in burst mode low.
I get a lot of blur with anything below 1/1000th.

Thanks for your feedback. I will try your suggestions and see what happens.[/qu

Part of the problem might be shooting at 1.8 (if you do) at that aperture there is no room for error when it comes to subjects being in focus. If you can push it to 2.8 around there might help. When your shooting keep your arms and elbows tucked tight to your sides. This shot 1/640 at 2.8.


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Feb 5, 2018 15:37:40   #
Dziadzi Loc: Wilkes-Barre, PA
 
WOW, Jules, you and Skylark are a plethora of information. I didn't realize that you could go to 2.8 and @ 1/640 blows my mind. Great shot! Thanks again!

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Feb 5, 2018 15:51:53   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
Dziadzi wrote:
WOW, Jules, you and Skylark are a plethora of information. I didn't realize that you could go to 2.8 and @ 1/640 blows my mind. Great shot! Thanks again!


Thanks just trying to help.

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Feb 5, 2018 16:01:57   #
67skylark27 Loc: Fort Atkinson, WI
 
Once I started nailing the focus I was able to get sharper pics at a slower shutter speed. It's easy
to blame one or the other for lack of sharpness. Also, proper exposure will give the higher
ISO's more clarity vs. shooting slightly dark and pushing them in Lightroom. Once I got
up to iso 1250 and proper exposure I started seeing better quality photos, I bumped up
my shutter speed a little bit more and now I'm about as good as I can get settings wise.
After that it's up to timing and getting the focus dead on.

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Feb 5, 2018 16:43:55   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
67skylark27 wrote:
Once I started nailing the focus I was able to get sharper pics at a slower shutter speed. It's easy
to blame one or the other for lack of sharpness. Also, proper exposure will give the higher
ISO's more clarity vs. shooting slightly dark and pushing them in Lightroom. Once I got
up to iso 1250 and proper exposure I started seeing better quality photos, I bumped up
my shutter speed a little bit more and now I'm about as good as I can get settings wise.
After that it's up to timing and getting the focus dead on.
Once I started nailing the focus I was able to get... (show quote)


Those gyms are terrible. I had to up the iso to 8000 just to get 1/640 at 2.8 group focus for the shot I showed before.

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Feb 5, 2018 23:29:55   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
Dziadzi wrote:
WOW, Jules, you and Skylark are a plethora of information. I didn't realize that you could go to 2.8 and @ 1/640 blows my mind. Great shot! Thanks again!


Good advice from all. I'll throw in, relax and don't jam the shutter. Exhale and squeeze smoothly. Difficult urge to fight when the adrenaline kicks in!
If you let the action come to a spot you have pre-focused for, you can get pretty low on shutter speed. This one is 1/320 and has the faintest of basketball blur. But ISO is also 500. I was on the end line. (edit: If I had to do over, I would have upped SS to 1/500 and a 1000 ISO. I think pic would have been sharper.)

I also try not to cut off feet/legs mid-shin. The waist is natural. Shoulders, head and arms look normal. Full length is natural. Try your 70-200 @ 2.8. Gives you a little more leeway down close. Have fun!


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