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Feb 3, 2018 12:13:34   #
tommystrat Loc: Bigfork, Montana
 
Sadly, I have noticed an increasing animosity and snarkiness in this forum. It is particularly evident when I see a number of new OP's to the site practically beg not to get flamed for asking a (perhaps) simple question to the experts on here but maybe not so simple to a newbie, of which we have all been one. If you have a constructive comment to add (and there are dozens every day from some extremely talented and knowledgable photographers) then chime in! But if all you want to do is beat up the new kid for asking about the sweet 16 or the golden triangle or the spots on their images, please do everyone a favor and head to Facebook. You can flame and snark to your heart's content and still post your pictures!

BTW, please don't flame me for writing this!

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Feb 3, 2018 12:18:21   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
tommystrat wrote:
Sadly, I have noticed an increasing animosity and snarkiness in this forum. It is particularly evident when I see a number of new OP's to the site practically beg not to get flamed for asking a (perhaps) simple question to the experts on here but maybe not so simple to a newbie, of which we have all been one. If you have a constructive comment to add (and there are dozens every day from some extremely talented and knowledgable photographers) then chime in! But if all you want to do is beat up the new kid for asking about the sweet 16 or the golden triangle or the spots on their images, please do everyone a favor and head to Facebook. You can flame and snark to your heart's content and still post your pictures!

BTW, please don't flame me for writing this!
Sadly, I have noticed an increasing animosity and ... (show quote)


That is just what happens when a forum is not moderated. The a$$holes can be themselves. Nothing you can about it, except accept it or join a different forum.

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Feb 3, 2018 12:22:46   #
canders
 
I agree. This is why I have never posted anything.

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Feb 3, 2018 12:28:31   #
rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin
 
tommystrat wrote:
Sadly, I have noticed an increasing animosity and snarkiness in this forum. It is particularly evident when I see a number of new OP's to the site practically beg not to get flamed for asking a (perhaps) simple question to the experts on here but maybe not so simple to a newbie, of which we have all been one. If you have a constructive comment to add (and there are dozens every day from some extremely talented and knowledgable photographers) then chime in! But if all you want to do is beat up the new kid for asking about the sweet 16 or the golden triangle or the spots on their images, please do everyone a favor and head to Facebook. You can flame and snark to your heart's content and still post your pictures! BTW, please don't flame me for writing this!
Sadly, I have noticed an increasing animosity and ... (show quote)

Tommy - I agree in general, but when a pugnacious jerk posts an antagonistic response to me or others who are simply trying to help the OP, I see nothing at all wrong with responding in kind (or in ‘not-so-kind’). Standing my ground.

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Feb 3, 2018 12:30:19   #
wkillham
 
As new member, I have to agree. As Thumper's mom used to say. "if you cant say something nice, say nuthin at all"

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Feb 3, 2018 12:45:23   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
If you would like a more civilised environment to post your queries in you could try the new section "Advice from the Pros". You can access it at the bottom of the extended Home page (you extend the Home page by clicking on "All Sections"), or by clicking HERE.

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Feb 3, 2018 13:33:48   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
It is a problem and it is getting worse.

Mike

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Feb 3, 2018 13:46:37   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
canders wrote:
I agree. This is why I have never posted anything.


Don't let the bast*/%s get you down.

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Feb 3, 2018 13:59:40   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
PHRubin wrote:
Don't let the bast*/%s get you down.


Good advice Paul, but when the bast*/%s run off most of the members, that gets me down.

Mike

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Feb 3, 2018 14:13:55   #
SS319
 
tommystrat wrote:
Sadly, I have noticed an increasing animosity and snarkiness in this forum. ...


I believe it to be a sign of the times. After watching the latest Star Wars movie, and seeing several people throw hissy fits - and throw other things as well, I went back and watched the first star wars movie. In 1978, the characters were polite. Lia hated the emperor with a passion, but she had respect for him, Darth Vader and Obewan were enemies, but they each showed respect to the other. Not so today. The members of the dark side threw at least three violent fits where they threw thing, broke things and yelled at other people.

I reject these behavioral changes and refuse to allow them to control my life. If I like or dislike the creation of others - here or anywhere - I will comment on the creation not the creator, and I will provide reason for my comments and suggestions for improvement. I have not and will never block another member for anything they have said.

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Feb 3, 2018 15:01:27   #
d3200prime
 
tdekany wrote:
That is just what happens when a forum is not moderated. The a$$holes can be themselves. Nothing you can about it, except accept it or join a different forum.


You hit the nail on the head. I know of a group that one member constantly invades, starts or tries to start arguments, calls people hypocrites, etc. I have complained to Admin and sinatraman who began the group. I don't believe Admin really cares who says what unless its really bad like grossly swearing, etc. UHH really has helped many photographers on all levels but the management of the groups is sorely lacking. Admin indeed!

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Feb 3, 2018 15:21:57   #
Ghost45 Loc: Everywhere/ Nowhere
 
I have learned that you can gleem wisdom from even the worst humans. The rest is a waste. Keep up the good attitude and make someone’s day 👍

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Feb 3, 2018 15:29:46   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
d3200prime wrote:
You hit the nail on the head. I know of a group that one member constantly invades, starts or tries to start arguments, calls people hypocrites, etc. I have complained to Admin and sinatraman who began the group. I don't believe Admin really cares who says what unless its really bad like grossly swearing, etc. UHH really has helped many photographers on all levels but the management of the groups is sorely lacking. Admin indeed!




Money talks bs walks

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Feb 3, 2018 15:52:41   #
dancers Loc: melbourne.victoria, australia
 
If you find members here to be.nasty, have a visit to the sister forum Knitting Paradise............some of the women there are disgusting in the way they "speak" to others.

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Feb 3, 2018 17:22:03   #
krashdragon
 
dancers wrote:
If you find members here to be.nasty, have a visit to the sister forum Knitting Paradise............some of the women there are disgusting in the way they "speak" to others.


Yup, agree with that. Word was the admin of both these sites sold them, so no moderation. I can understand the reasoning, just sorry so many people are becoming more and more uncivilized.

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