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Jan 30, 2018 04:56:52   #
blazerneon Loc: Colorado
 
I'm trying to learn how to take pictures of bison behind a fence and 'lose' the fence in the finished product. As you can see in the sample included, the fence (right in the middle of the bison's head and along the flank area) is visible with what I did. Shot was taken with Canon T6i with Sigma 150-500 f/5-6.3 at 500mm and f/16. I'm pretty sure I need to adjust DOF, but would like confirmation on that. This was taken from the car as it's not permitted to get out of vehicles where I was at the time. All insights and constructive criticism is very much appreciated!

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Jan 30, 2018 05:24:00   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
blazerneon wrote:
I'm trying to learn how to take pictures of bison behind a fence and 'lose' the fence in the finished product. As you can see in the sample included, the fence (right in the middle of the bison's head and along the flank area) is visible with what I did. Shot was taken with Canon T6i with Sigma 150-500 f/5-6.3 at 500mm and f/16. I'm pretty sure I need to adjust DOF, but would like confirmation on that. This was taken from the car as it's not permitted to get out of vehicles where I was at the time. All insights and constructive criticism is very much appreciated!

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If you have photoshop, on1 or any other capable editing program you can adjust the contrast, luminosity and saturation of the area that is lower contrast (obscured by the fencing), and carefully adjust that area.

Alternately, when you take the picture, you can use a wider aperture and bring the front of the lens as close as you can to the fencing.

Last but not least, you can bring a pair of wire cutters and hope the fence is not electrified and there is no video surveillance.

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Jan 30, 2018 05:28:32   #
Silverman Loc: Michigan
 
blazerneon wrote:
I'm trying to learn how to take pictures of bison behind a fence and 'lose' the fence in the finished product. As you can see in the sample included, the fence (right in the middle of the bison's head and along the flank area) is visible with what I did. Shot was taken with Canon T6i with Sigma 150-500 f/5-6.3 at 500mm and f/16. I'm pretty sure I need to adjust DOF, but would like confirmation on that. This was taken from the car as it's not permitted to get out of vehicles where I was at the time. All insights and constructive criticism is very much appreciated!

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Nice Photo, although I as a beginner myself, do not have the knowledge or experience to offer advice. But just guessing, I would say Post Processing is involved.

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Jan 30, 2018 05:42:55   #
blazerneon Loc: Colorado
 
Thanks Gene51, I'll see what I'm able to do with post processing and will repost after I do. While your last resort idea would be lots easier, I'm really sure that I couldn't out run a bison no matter how much I tried. I think I read their top speed is about 40 mph and I'm nowhere near that fast....guess I'll have to dive into PS after all.

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Jan 30, 2018 05:43:33   #
breck Loc: Derbyshire UK
 
place the lens very close to the fence, and such that you are aiming between the strands of wire.
Use the widest aperture (F2.8 or less if possible)

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Jan 30, 2018 05:50:13   #
Shutterbug57
 
Basically, shoot with a wider aperture to reduce the DOF. Not being able to get out of the car, hence nearer to the fence, you may need a faster lens, but certainly, moving from f/16 to wide open (f/5 to f/6.3) will help and, depending on how far the bison is from the fence, it may solve the problem.

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Jan 30, 2018 06:40:45   #
blazerneon Loc: Colorado
 
Thanks, Shutterbug57, I'll try going to the wider aperture and see how it goes. He was probably about 5 feet from the fence.

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Jan 30, 2018 06:42:02   #
blazerneon Loc: Colorado
 
Breck, I think you missed the part of my original post where it said that getting out of vehicles is prohibited and there are rangers patrolling the area all the time.

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Jan 30, 2018 07:01:25   #
fourg1b2006 Loc: Long Island New York
 
You did a nice job getting rid of the fence.

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Jan 30, 2018 07:10:01   #
Shutterbug57
 
blazerneon wrote:
Thanks, Shutterbug57, I'll try going to the wider aperture and see how it goes. He was probably about 5 feet from the fence.


Assuming the car cannot get right next to the fence, you need to find a bison that is farther from the fence. With your max aperture and the proximity of this bison to the fence, the fence will almost certainly be visible. You did well, however, removing it.

You may want to play with a DOF calculator to better understand this issue.

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Jan 30, 2018 08:58:57   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
blazerneon wrote:
I'm trying to learn how to take pictures of bison behind a fence and 'lose' the fence in the finished product. As you can see in the sample included, the fence (right in the middle of the bison's head and along the flank area) is visible with what I did. Shot was taken with Canon T6i with Sigma 150-500 f/5-6.3 at 500mm and f/16. I'm pretty sure I need to adjust DOF, but would like confirmation on that. This was taken from the car as it's not permitted to get out of vehicles where I was at the time. All insights and constructive criticism is very much appreciated!

Thanks
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Since you cant't get closer (which may not matter,anyway because the fence post is so wide), the only thing you can do is move to a different place, in the car, so the post does not appear to block the head

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Jan 30, 2018 18:12:50   #
blazerneon Loc: Colorado
 
Thanks Marty

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Jan 30, 2018 18:14:19   #
blazerneon Loc: Colorado
 
bobric, that's not the fence post, it's the fencing material (wire).

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Jan 31, 2018 06:11:04   #
BJW
 
blazerneon wrote:
I'm trying to learn how to take pictures of bison behind a fence and 'lose' the fence in the finished product. As you can see in the sample included, the fence (right in the middle of the bison's head and along the flank area) is visible with what I did. Shot was taken with Canon T6i with Sigma 150-500 f/5-6.3 at 500mm and f/16. I'm pretty sure I need to adjust DOF, but would like confirmation on that. This was taken from the car as it's not permitted to get out of vehicles where I was at the time. All insights and constructive criticism is very much appreciated!

Thanks
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I frequently have to shoot through white netting or glass at ice hockey arenas. I do it the way Gene51 recommends in his second paragraph, but I also concentrate on lock focusing on the subject.

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Jan 31, 2018 07:37:45   #
Stephan G
 
blazerneon wrote:
Breck, I think you missed the part of my original post where it said that getting out of vehicles is prohibited and there are rangers patrolling the area all the time.


Learn how to ask the bison to come closer to you, in Bison, of course.

Considering the limitations, you have done well.


PS. Singing the "Canadian Love Song" only works for the north of the line bison. Or so I am told.

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