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What's the best B/W paper you've ever used? ... Agfa? ... Ilford? ... Kodak? ... Fuji?
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Jan 27, 2018 18:37:46   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Pablo8 wrote:
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There are many other countries outside of Ex, or present Commonwealth Countries that have members. World-Wide, means World-Wide. It's just that the Patron of the Society was, and still is , the Head of State. (King or Queen).


Yes, okay, Pablo ... but, you'd have a hard time getting anyone in America to recognize a "Royal" Society ... with the Queen as its head ... although, others might ....

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Jan 27, 2018 18:42:43   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Caranx wrote:
Started off using Kodak, then Agfa and Ilford. Can't remember the types now other than matte or glossy, but used depending on desired finish, availability and price! Ilford became my favorite. Vaguely remember that the choice of chemistry affected paper behavior leading to more creativity.


Caran .... now, you've brought up an interesting aspect, which I've also used as one of today's two Topic Posts ... does chemistry really affect the outcome?

If so, could you please let me know how?

Does Kodak Dektol affect Agfa paper differently than its own? ... Does Fuji chemistry affect Ilford paper differently than its own? ... If so, how?

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Jan 27, 2018 18:47:03   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
ecurb1105 wrote:
Kodak Polycontrast E, fiber base until the 1980s. Then fiber base Ilford Gallerie Pearl until I dumped the wet darkroom around 2005.


Wasn't keen on Polycontrast, Ecurb ... much preferred Agfa papers ... and Ilford Gallerie Pearl was one helluva good-looking paper, eh, Ecurb? ....

So you dumped the wet darkroom in favor of all-digital in 2005, eh, Ecurb? ... and never looked back, huh?

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Jan 27, 2018 18:49:43   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
kvanhook wrote:
I was a fan of Kodak Ektalure back in the 60's. Heavy paper, good for display. Used a canvas texture and really liked it. It was all I used in exhibits. But, it hasn't been made in many years and any "new old stock" may be unsatisfactory.


Expensive, though - as I remember, K ... but, you're right ... a natural for Exhibitions ....

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Jan 27, 2018 18:54:03   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Hostman wrote:
It's been 15 years since I have had my B/W darkroom but I think I used Ilford multi. Resin...


Possibly, Host .... a late introduction into the resin-coated stock ....

Much preferred fiber-based papers for my own use, but when someone wanted something in a hurry - RC was the way to go ....

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Jan 27, 2018 18:59:30   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Steamboat wrote:
Ilford Portriga Rapid fiber based ........ back in the late 1970's Ahhh those were the days !

In full disclosure I haven't shot film since 1999


Yeah, you and Prince both, Steamboat

And the gag stops right there, in reverence to the composition writer ....

You have things just a bit twisted, there, Steam ....

Agfa made Portriga Rapid ... NOT Ilford .... but, that's okay ... at least, I knew what you meant! .... 1999, eh? ... zat when you got your first dig cam?

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Jan 27, 2018 19:04:28   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
ELNikkor wrote:
My favorite back in the day for my best shots was Agfa Brovira; still have a few prints I made with it, but it didn't always lie flat when dry. For standard printing, it was always the Kodak RC papers.


Yes, I know, El ... I noticed that, too, with some Kodak papers ... (Brovira, BTW, like Portriga-Rapid - was an Agfa paper)

I always used to pick those off the drum dryer tray, and immediately put them between two mounting boards, in the Dry Mount Press ....

If there were a bunch - I'd put two in, back-to-back, between each pair of mount-boards ... a few hours later, I'd take 'em out ... worked like a charm!

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Jan 27, 2018 19:18:53   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Acufine3200 wrote:
It really depended on what kind of tone I desired. There was a Kodak Portrait bromide based paper I loved for cold tones; a slight bluish tint which was great for sunless landscapes, and certain portraits where a dark background with higher contrast was needed. For warm tones there was Agfa-Geveart’s Brovira. It was super for landscapes and portraits where warm fleshtones were needed.

For everyday newspaper shots A-G had a Rapid that was a good utility paper.

Then came the Ilford Pearl multicontrast papers. In a word, beautiful.

I miss the paper selection process of the old darkroom days. Especially when we were limited to graded paper. Of course so much of this was prohibitive to the average amateur without access to a good darkroom, or local photo stores with plenty of product on the shelves.
It really depended on what kind of tone I desired.... (show quote)


Oh, I agree, Acufine .... Agfa-Gevaert papers were / are - simply, the best, aren't they? ... Although, some of the Ilford papers - give them a good run for the money.

Rapid-Repro - I believe is the "good utility paper" to which you referred .....

Exactly, Ilford Pearl - is an excellent runner up ... (and, in some ways - bests Agfa) ... the others (Kodak, Fuji) are also-rans ...

But, you know, you can call up places like B&H or Adorama, and have what you need, delivered straight to your door, within 1-2 days ....

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Jan 27, 2018 19:21:41   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Charles O. Slavens wrote:
Agfa - Brovira #6


Boy!!! ... You sure liked things contrasty - huh, Charles?

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Jan 27, 2018 19:40:33   #
Acufine3200 Loc: Texarkana USA
 
Chris T wrote:

But, you know, you can call up places like B&H or Adorama, and have what you need, delivered straight to your door, within 1-2 days ....


Today, yes. Simply get on the net, peruse the reviews, and then either order online or make a toll-free call.

Maybe toll-free ordering was available in 1974, but as a junior high student in rural East Texas all I had access to for supplies were two “mom and pops” 30-miles down the road. Even then I was at the mercy of what those stores had on the shelves which was limited to what mom or pop stocked.

Sure, those living in more populated areas had choices near them. I suspect though, I wasn’t alone in not having many available resources. Sure, there were the magazines with the ads in the back, but ordering sight unseen wasn’t prudent.

The only way I finally got to use high quality papers, and even experiment with various brands was by being hired by the local newspaper when I entered high school.

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Jan 27, 2018 19:41:44   #
Steamboat
 
This link is like a walk down memory lane.....those were good days
.....and so are these I love PS .....and the medium of photography.

Remember Acufine? ..... Tri-X pushed to ASA 1600 for concert photography
The great Rock 'n' Roll shows shooting with Nikon's and a 180 f/2.8ED sitting at the bottom of the stage
Sorry for wandering the above post has a photo of a can of Acufine developer that took me back.

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Jan 27, 2018 20:02:28   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Steamboat wrote:
This link is like a walk down memory lane.....those were good days
.....and so are these I love PS .....and the medium of photography.

Remember Acufine? ..... Tri-X pushed to ASA 1600 for concert photography
The great Rock 'n' Roll shows shooting with Nikon's and a 180 f/2.8ED sitting at the bottom of the stage
Sorry for wandering the above post has a photo of a can of Acufine developer that took me back.


Yes, but that's Acufine's Avatar, Steam ...

It always shows up when he contributes to a Topic Post ....

That's okay, Steam ... wander all you want ... that's fine ... in fact - that's Acufine!


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Jan 27, 2018 20:05:06   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Acufine3200 wrote:
Today, yes. Simply get on the net, peruse the reviews, and then either order online or make a toll-free call.

Maybe toll-free ordering was available in 1974, but as a junior high student in rural East Texas all I had access to for supplies were two “mom and pops” 30-miles down the road. Even then I was at the mercy of what those stores had on the shelves which was limited to what mom or pop stocked.

Sure, those living in more populated areas had choices near them. I suspect though, I wasn’t alone in not having many available resources. Sure, there were the magazines with the ads in the back, but ordering sight unseen wasn’t prudent.

The only way I finally got to use high quality papers, and even experiment with various brands was by being hired by the local newspaper when I entered high school.
Today, yes. Simply get on the net, peruse the revi... (show quote)


And I'll bet you were thrilled, Acufine .... what as? ... A junior correspondent, or a darkroom assistant?

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Jan 27, 2018 20:10:56   #
Acufine3200 Loc: Texarkana USA
 
Steamboat wrote:

Remember Acufine? .....

Sorry for wandering the above post has a photo of a can of Acufine developer that took me back.


Steamboat—Acufine was my go to for night sports back in the day. Our sports fields were so poorly lighted that sometimes I did cheat all the way to 3200. On one field I actually used a 135/2.8 @1600 WITH a flash. Tri-X was my mainstay unless I could get my hands on some hi-speed recording film.

Oops, this thread is about papers. Soooo—the above rolls of film were so contrasty I was often forced to use #1 graded Rapid in a weakened 10-1 dektol to soften the black tones.

Yeah, memory lane!

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Jan 27, 2018 20:25:23   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Acufine3200 wrote:
Steamboat—Acufine was my go to for night sports back in the day. Our sports fields were so poorly lighted that sometimes I did cheat all the way to 3200. On one field I actually used a 135/2.8 @1600 WITH a flash. Tri-X was my mainstay unless I could get my hands on some hi-speed recording film.

Oops, this thread is about papers. Soooo—the above rolls of film were so contrasty I was often forced to use #1 graded Rapid in a weakened 10-1 dektol to soften the black tones.

Yeah, memory lane!
Steamboat—Acufine was my go to for night sports ba... (show quote)


Hit it high in contrast AT the shoot ... then bring it back down with low paper grade, and diluted Dektol, huh? ....

Hmmmm ....

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