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Jan 17, 2018 21:55:34   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
There have been several discussions about Trump's BMI, and whether or not he is overweight and by how much. Lets assume he is overwheight and approaching obesity and maybe he should lose 10 or 20 pounds. Not exactly a world shaking event. Some ofb the following liberal darlings and far worse problems. FDR was in a wheelchair, the press covered it up. JFK took narcotic pain meds. the press covered it up. He also hadmulitple affairs while president. the press covered it up. Ted Kennedy let a woman die in Chapaquidick, and was still allowed to be senator. But when trump mispronounces a word the liberal press accuses him of mental disease.

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Jan 17, 2018 22:52:22   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
boberic wrote:
There have been several discussions about Trump's BMI, and whether or not he is overweight and by how much. Lets assume he is overwheight and approaching obesity and maybe he should lose 10 or 20 pounds. Not exactly a world shaking event. Some ofb the following liberal darlings and far worse problems. FDR was in a wheelchair, the press covered it up. JFK took narcotic pain meds. the press covered it up. He also hadmulitple affairs while president. the press covered it up. Ted Kennedy let a woman die in Chapaquidick, and was still allowed to be senator. But when trump mispronounces a word the liberal press accuses him of mental disease.
There have been several discussions about Trump's ... (show quote)


Charlie Brown, you're a clown, you're gonna get caught, just you wait and see, whys everybody alway picking on MEEEE!! .......
SS

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Jan 17, 2018 23:04:00   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
boberic wrote:
There have been several discussions about Trump's BMI, and whether or not he is overweight and by how much. Lets assume he is overwheight and approaching obesity and maybe he should lose 10 or 20 pounds. Not exactly a world shaking event. Some ofb the following liberal darlings and far worse problems. FDR was in a wheelchair, the press covered it up. JFK took narcotic pain meds. the press covered it up. He also hadmulitple affairs while president. the press covered it up. Ted Kennedy let a woman die in Chapaquidick, and was still allowed to be senator. But when trump mispronounces a word the liberal press accuses him of mental disease.
There have been several discussions about Trump's ... (show quote)


Criticism of Ted Kennedy is legitimate, but he didn’t “let” a woman die, as he had no control over her life or death. That much is dishonest.

“Lets assume he is overwheight and approaching obesity and maybe he should lose 10 or 20 pounds. ”. Let’s assume that as you suggest and let that issue go.

I’m much more concerned about his mental abilities that his weight.

I think when more is known, and we have better perspective and better information, we may learn how very serious Trump’s mental weaknesses really are, and how justified we would be in panic.

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Jan 17, 2018 23:38:15   #
EyeSawYou
 
Twardlow wrote:
Criticism of Ted Kennedy is legitimate, but he didn’t “let” a woman die, as he had no control over her life or death. That much is dishonest.

“Lets assume he is overwheight and approaching obesity and maybe he should lose 10 or 20 pounds. ”. Let’s assume that as you suggest and let that issue go.

I’m much more concerned about his mental abilities that his weight.

I think when more is known, and we have better perspective and better information, we may learn how very serious Trump’s mental weaknesses really are, and how justified we would be in panic.
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BS, Ted Kennedy absolutely did have control over that woman's death he could have saved her life that little pig. You sure believe in read a lot of b*******.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1209313/Ted-Kennedy-The-Senator-Sleaze-drunk-sexual-bully--left-young-woman-die.html

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Jan 18, 2018 00:00:07   #
drainbamage
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Charlie Brown, you're a clown, you're gonna get caught, just you wait and see, whys everybody alway picking on MEEEE!! .......
SS


Partying in your own world SS? Time to slow it down and change into your night time phase of wh**ever world you are living in.

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Jan 18, 2018 00:02:07   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
BS, Ted Kennedy absolutely did have control over that woman's death he could have saved her life that little pig. You sure believe in read a lot of b*******.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1209313/Ted-Kennedy-The-Senator-Sleaze-drunk-sexual-bully--left-young-woman-die.html


Interesting that you have such an emotional investment in something that happened so long ago, almost fifty years ago—were you even alive then?

Here are two summaries of what happened by impartial sources. There are aspects that might be reprehensible or irresponsible, but it’s a far cry from saying he chose to let her die:

The Chappaquiddick incident was a single-vehicle car accident on Chappaquiddick Island, Massachusetts, on Friday, July 18, 1969, that was the result of U.S. Senator Ted Kennedy's negligence and resulted in the death of his 28-year-old passenger, Mary Jo Kopechne, who was trapped inside the vehicle.

According to Kennedy's own testimony, he accidentally drove his car off the one-lane bridge and into a tidal channel. He swam free, vainly tried to rescue Kopechne, left the scene, and did not report the accident to the police for ten hours. Meanwhile, Kopechne died inside the car that was submerged underwater. The next day, Kopechne's body and the car were both recovered by a diver. Kennedy pleaded guilty to a charge of leaving the scene of a crash causing personal injury; he later received a two-month suspended jail sentence.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident



Just after 11 p.m., Kennedy left the party with Kopechne, by his account to drive to the ferry slip where they would catch a boat back to their respective lodgings in Edgartown on Martha’s Vineyard. While driving down the main roadway, Kennedy took a sharp turn onto the unpaved Dike Road, drove for a short distance, and then missed the ramp to a narrow wooden bridge and drove into Poucha Pond. Kennedy, a married man, claimed the Dike Road excursion was a wrong turn. However, both he and Kopechne had previously driven down the same road, which led to a secluded ocean beach just beyond the bridge. In addition, Kopechne had left both her purse and room key at the party.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/incident-on-chappaquiddick-island

BTW, just went back to follow your link, and find it quite amusing. How’s this for impartial and informed reporting, judicious, honest, balanced?

Senator Edward 'Ted' Kennedy [[b]stood for sleaze. Bloated and drunken,[/b] he used his standing in the Kennedy clan to chase vulnerable women - which brought his dream of reaching the White House to a shameful end.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1209313/Ted-Kennedy-The-Senator-Sleaze-drunk-sexual-bully--left-young-woman-die.html#ixzz54VfEkXua


I understand he beat little girls, kicked puppies, lied to his mother, stole from the Church poor box, and had bad breath.

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Jan 18, 2018 00:15:06   #
drainbamage
 
Twardlow wrote:
Criticism of Ted Kennedy is legitimate, but he didn’t “let” a woman die, as he had no control over her life or death. That much is dishonest.

“Lets assume he is overwheight and approaching obesity and maybe he should lose 10 or 20 pounds. ”. Let’s assume that as you suggest and let that issue go.

I’m much more concerned about his mental abilities that his weight.

I think when more is known, and we have better perspective and better information, we may learn how very serious Trump’s mental weaknesses really are, and how justified we would be in panic.
Criticism of Ted Kennedy is legitimate, but he did... (show quote)


I lived on Martha's Vineyard during the Kennedy era, and it is a well known fact among the locals that the Kennedy's, including President John, were maniacal party goers and hostesses of wild, crazy parties. You could hear them partying across the bay at Chappaquiddick island. They were as loud as the parties they had at Hyannis, but because it was a quiet island, the noises they made were "intense" because of the closeness of the island to the Vineyard, and when the President was there, there were a lot of security vehicles. It would be easy for Ted to hide behind one of those parties. He was drunk when the car went over the bridge. He swam for his own safety and did not care about Mary Jo Kopechne.

Ted Kennedy did "let" Mary Jo die.

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Jan 18, 2018 00:21:14   #
drainbamage
 
Twardlow wrote:
Interesting that you have such an emotional investment in something that happened so long ago, almost fifty years ago—were you even alive then?

Here are two summaries of what happened by impartial sources. There are aspects that might be reprehensible or irresponsible, but it’s a far cry from saying he chose to let her die:

The Chappaquiddick incident was a single-vehicle car accident on Chappaquiddick Island, Massachusetts, on Friday, July 18, 1969, that was the result of U.S. Senator Ted Kennedy's negligence and resulted in the death of his 28-year-old passenger, Mary Jo Kopechne, who was trapped inside the vehicle.

According to Kennedy's own testimony, he accidentally drove his car off the one-lane bridge and into a tidal channel. He swam free, vainly tried to rescue Kopechne, left the scene, and did not report the accident to the police for ten hours. Meanwhile, Kopechne died inside the car that was submerged underwater. The next day, Kopechne's body and the car were both recovered by a diver. Kennedy pleaded guilty to a charge of leaving the scene of a crash causing personal injury; he later received a two-month suspended jail sentence.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident



Just after 11 p.m., Kennedy left the party with Kopechne, by his account to drive to the ferry slip where they would catch a boat back to their respective lodgings in Edgartown on Martha’s Vineyard. While driving down the main roadway, Kennedy took a sharp turn onto the unpaved Dike Road, drove for a short distance, and then missed the ramp to a narrow wooden bridge and drove into Poucha Pond. Kennedy, a married man, claimed the Dike Road excursion was a wrong turn. However, both he and Kopechne had previously driven down the same road, which led to a secluded ocean beach just beyond the bridge. In addition, Kopechne had left both her purse and room key at the party.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/incident-on-chappaquiddick-island

BTW, just went back to follow your link, and find it quite amusing. How’s this for impartial and informed reporting, judicious, honest, balanced?

Senator Edward 'Ted' Kennedy [[b]stood for sleaze. Bloated and drunken,[/b] he used his standing in the Kennedy clan to chase vulnerable women - which brought his dream of reaching the White House to a shameful end.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1209313/Ted-Kennedy-The-Senator-Sleaze-drunk-sexual-bully--left-young-woman-die.html#ixzz54VfEkXua


I understand he beat little girls, kicked puppies, lied to his mother, stole from the Church poor box, and had bad breath.
Interesting that you have such an emotional invest... (show quote)


You need to understand when a story is true, and when it is manipulated.

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Jan 18, 2018 01:05:45   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
drainbamage wrote:
I lived on Martha's Vineyard during the Kennedy era, and it is a well known fact among the locals that the Kennedy's, including President John, were maniacal party goers and hostesses of wild, crazy parties. You could hear them partying across the bay at Chappaquiddick island. They were as loud as the parties they had at Hyannis, but because it was a quiet island, the noises they made were "intense" because of the closeness of the island to the Vineyard, and when the President was there, there were a lot of security vehicles. It would be easy for Ted to hide behind one of those parties. He was drunk when the car went over the bridge. He swam for his own safety and did not care about Mary Jo Kopechne.

Ted Kennedy did "let" Mary Jo die.
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I don’t know that parties are illegal, even loud parties. Of course there are security vehicles where the President goes—any president. Does that offend you? Of course Ted could hide behind vehicles, as could anyone else, hell I’ve hidden behind vehicles myself. I don’t think I broke any law. Yes, Kennedys have political power and get special treatment. So do the Bushes, the Clintons, the Reagans, and the Trumps. Probably Harry Truman didn’t, but he’s an exception. Not too democratic, perhaps a little illegal...but it happens.

He may have been drunk, and he may have been chasing a little tail; it happens. News reports say he tried to save her—Why The Hell Wouldn’t He? They say he went back with two others and they couldn’t save her either.

In a sense he caused her death. He was the responsible driver, and he failed. Alcohol may have been an issue. He waited too long to report it.

Still, no reasonable, rational and responsible person can say he “let” her die. Period.

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Jan 18, 2018 01:06:54   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
drainbamage wrote:
You need to understand when a story is true, and when it is manipulated.


Well, I understand the link presented from 2009 was wildly manipulated. I wouldn’t use that newspaper to line my birdcage.

But, what you mean is that I need to pad the issue with my personal hostility beyond all issues of the law or practical politics in order to be as intentionally misguided, dishonest and hysterical about something the happened 50 years ago as you are.

I don’t buy it.

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Jan 18, 2018 01:26:05   #
drainbamage
 
Twardlow wrote:
I don’t know that parties are illegal, even loud parties. Of course there are security vehicles where the President goes—any president. Does that offend you? Of course Ted could hide behind vehicles, as could anyone else, hell I’ve hidden behind vehicles myself. I don’t think I broke any law. Yes, Kennedys have political power and get special treatment. So do the Bushes, the Clintons, the Reagans, and the Trumps. Probably Harry Truman didn’t, but he’s an exception. Not too democratic, perhaps a little illegal...but it happens.

He may have been drunk, and he may have been chasing a little tail; it happens. News reports say he tried to save her—Why The Hell Wouldn’t He? They say he went back with two others and they couldn’t save her either.

In a sense he caused her death. He was the responsible driver, and he failed. Alcohol may have been an issue. He waited too long to report it.

Still, no reasonable, rational and responsible person can say he “let” her die. Period.
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You have too many "may have's" in your excusing Ted Kennedy's k*****g Mary Jo. Chasing a little tail? it happens? Wow! I wouldn't want to go to a party with you.

He was drunk. Alcohol was definitely an issue. It always was with the Kennedys - they drank like fish every day of the week. Ted drove his car off a bridge. He did not "wait too long to report it"..he swam to his own safety and forgot about her until the next morning when someone asked him "Where's Mary Jo"

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Jan 18, 2018 09:45:22   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Twardlow wrote:
Criticism of Ted Kennedy is legitimate, but he didn’t “let” a woman die, as he had no control over her life or death. That much is dishonest.

“Lets assume he is overwheight and approaching obesity and maybe he should lose 10 or 20 pounds. ”. Let’s assume that as you suggest and let that issue go.

I’m much more concerned about his mental abilities that his weight.

I think when more is known, and we have better perspective and better information, we may learn how very serious Trump’s mental weaknesses really are, and how justified we would be in panic.
Criticism of Ted Kennedy is legitimate, but he did... (show quote)


Didn't let her die ? BS. He was drunk when he drove off that bridge. Left the scene of the accident for 10 hours. If you or I did that we would be prosecuted for criminally negligent homicide. Probably spend a long time in the clink

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Jan 18, 2018 09:58:30   #
Black Bart Loc: Indiana
 
Twardlow wrote:


I think when more is known, and we have better perspective and better information, we may learn how very serious Trump’s mental weaknesses really are, and how justified we would be in panic.
Well you will have 7 years to decide.


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Jan 18, 2018 10:01:17   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
How does Ted Kennedy's behavior excuse the behaviors of Trump?
If it does, then shouldn't Eisenhower having an affair with his Lieutenant be factored in?

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Jan 18, 2018 10:21:33   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Frank T wrote:
How does Ted Kennedy's behavior excuse the behaviors of Trump?
If it does, then shouldn't Eisenhower having an affair with his Lieutenant be factored in?


Only that Trump's behavior is slammed and the same, or similliar actions of democrats is ignored. Kennedy's affairs were ignored while mere alligations against Trump are fodder for impeachment

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