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Jan 12, 2018 08:29:48   #
BebuLamar
 
Bill_de wrote:
I forgot all about that. I even owned one of those cameras.

From Wiki:

The Pen series is a family of half-frame cameras made by Olympus from 1959 to the beginning of the 1980s. Aside from the Pen F series of half-frame SLRs, they are fixed-lens viewfinder cameras.

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I have to find it but I have the ads for the Olympus Pen when it was introduced. Olympus called it the "35mm single frame". The didn't call it half frame.

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Jan 12, 2018 08:36:29   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I have to find it but I have the ads for the Olympus Pen when it was introduced. Olympus called it the "35mm single frame". The didn't call it half frame.


because advertising it as half frame wouldn't have been good for sales :)

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Jan 12, 2018 08:37:07   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I have to find it but I have the ads for the Olympus Pen when it was introduced. Olympus called it the "35mm single frame". The didn't call it half frame.


You are correct. I Googled Olympus Pen Ad

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Jan 12, 2018 08:38:22   #
Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY
 
Why did I read past the OP? Did I learn anything? Do I have anything constructive to offer?

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Jan 12, 2018 08:44:00   #
Shutterbug57
 
jackinkc wrote:
A “full frame” digital camera is, indeed, 24X36mm.


So, where does that leave the Hasselblad X1D?

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Jan 12, 2018 08:48:24   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
"Call me a fool for bringing this up time and time again but I just do not understand why folks are not getting it."

You seem to be so concerned over trivial things! Is it that important if someone confuses a Buick with a Chevrolet? Well, it is not for me. The best I can do if it concerns me is to explain the confused person the difference but that is it.

You are right, each camera is full frame (FF) in its own right although it has become customary today to call FF dSLR bodies that use the whole sensor. You are right again, Nikon calls those cameras FX while the designation of DX is reserved for cameras also full frame but using especial optics designed for them. If a lens designed for the FX use is fit to the DX camera then we use the words Cropped Sensor to designate the fact that only part of the sensor is used. All of this is very simple but people get confused because they ignore the facts I have just mentioned.

I do not have the problem you have. If asked I explain the facts I know but otherwise I simply ignore it.

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Jan 12, 2018 08:50:07   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
Bill_de wrote:
You are correct. I Googled Olympus Pen Ad

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Good review here https://www.cameraquest.com/olypenf.htm

Seems a little strange with its portrait orientation but then thats one of the things it was used for. Even with a battery grip a DSLR feels awkward in portrait mode.

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Jan 12, 2018 08:53:15   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
blackest wrote:
Good review here https://www.cameraquest.com/olypenf.htm

Seems a little strange with its portrait orientation but then that's one of the things it was used for. Even with a battery grip a DSLR feels awkward in portrait mode.


But according to the title they are reviewing the half-frame version.

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Jan 12, 2018 08:55:06   #
Peter Boyd Loc: Blyth nr. Newcastle U.K.
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I have to find it but I have the ads for the Olympus Pen when it was introduced. Olympus called it the "35mm single frame". The didn't call it half frame.


In the U.K. they called it half frame.

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Jan 12, 2018 08:58:08   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
You say tomato, I say tomatoe....Much ado about nothing...

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Jan 12, 2018 08:59:32   #
BebuLamar
 
Peter Boyd wrote:
In the U.K. they called it half frame.


Today if you look at Olympus website when they talk about the Pen they do call it half frame. But as in the Ads said they called it single frame back then.

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Jan 12, 2018 09:01:02   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
DaveO wrote:
I'll see if my wife will spring for some new lenses.


Your pushing it Dave.

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Jan 12, 2018 09:08:05   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
papa wrote:
Stuck out in left field again. No balls there, huh?


Not really, left field has so many more balls hit there then right field. If you played the game you'd know this.

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Jan 12, 2018 09:29:02   #
Don W-37 Loc: Bangkok, Thailand
 
Is somebody trolling? If so, it worked! 😊

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Jan 12, 2018 09:31:32   #
pendennis
 
cval52 wrote:
I am still wondering how, when a uterus is removed, it is a hysterectomy. I didn’t know there was an anatomical feature called a hyster.


The etymology of the word comes from "hustera", the Greek word for "womb".

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