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Jan 3, 2018 09:51:51   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
I got to thinking. We spend a lot of time and effort in dealing with the technical side of photography, the mechanics. If we put that much effort into driving a car, we'd still be at the end of the driveway at the end of the day.

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Jan 3, 2018 09:59:18   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Hardly. One should become conversant with the technical aspects and thus taking a photograph becomes no more effort that your writing the sentence you posted in this thread.
--Bob
gvarner wrote:
I got to thinking. We spend a lot of time and effort in dealing with the technical side of photography, the mechanics. If we put that much effort into driving a car, we'd still be at the end of the driveway at the end of the day.

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Jan 3, 2018 09:59:50   #
Wrongway Loc: Hewitt Texas
 
For most the way people drive today that might be the safest place to be

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Jan 3, 2018 10:25:20   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
gvarner wrote:
I got to thinking. We spend a lot of time and effort in dealing with the technical side of photography, the mechanics. If we put that much effort into driving a car, we'd still be at the end of the driveway at the end of the day.


But cameras are so much more complicated than cars.

A lot of our "problems" are not mechanical, but not knowing how to perform certain procedures. Cameras themselves work pretty well. It's the operators who often have trouble.

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Jan 3, 2018 11:46:18   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
jerryc41 wrote:
But cameras are so much more complicated than cars.

A lot of our "problems" are not mechanical, but not knowing how to perform certain procedures. Cameras themselves work pretty well. It's the operators who often have trouble.


And because of the technical complexity people make it much more difficult than it should be, or even is. We have the camera tool and the computer tool and the monitor tool and the printer tool, all to produce something that we like to look at or that others will also like to look at. One way to deal with a complex process is break it down into manageable parts instead of trying to tackle the whole thing at once. I think that too many try to tackle the whole thing at once.

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Jan 3, 2018 11:58:05   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I think you're on to something here.
--Bob

gvarner wrote:
And because of the technical complexity people make it much more difficult than it should be, or even is. We have the camera tool and the computer tool and the monitor tool and the printer tool, all to produce something that we like to look at or that others will also like to look at. One way to deal with a complex process is break it down into manageable parts instead of trying to tackle the whole thing at once. I think that too many try to tackle the whole thing at once.

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Jan 3, 2018 12:05:11   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
gvarner wrote:
And because of the technical complexity people make it much more difficult than it should be, or even is. We have the camera tool and the computer tool and the monitor tool and the printer tool, all to produce something that we like to look at or that others will also like to look at. One way to deal with a complex process is break it down into manageable parts instead of trying to tackle the whole thing at once. I think that too many try to tackle the whole thing at once.




We see lots of discussions here that could be avoided: dpi and pixels, focal length and depth of field, full frame vs cropped, whether a lens changes focal length when it's put on a different camera, etc. It's not that the topics are worthless, but different people have different ideas about how to discuss those topics. It's like some members are waiting to pounce if someone uses a term they don't like.

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Jan 3, 2018 13:14:28   #
jungle Loc: Scotland
 
Read the instruction manual BEFORE you use them , we never do !!!

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Jan 4, 2018 00:59:12   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
But cameras are so much more complicated than cars.

A lot of our "problems" are not mechanical, but not knowing how to perform certain procedures. Cameras themselves work pretty well. It's the operators who often have trouble.

ROFLMAO! Have you ever watched someone under 50 try to parallel park in a space between two cars. Most of them park by ear; they stop when they hit something.

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Jan 4, 2018 01:27:37   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
gvarner wrote:
I got to thinking. We spend a lot of time and effort in dealing with the technical side of photography, the mechanics. If we put that much effort into driving a car, we'd still be at the end of the driveway at the end of the day.


There are websites like this for car or truck enthusiasts. The users probably put on more than average mileage.

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Jan 4, 2018 04:01:55   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
gvarner wrote:
I got to thinking. We spend a lot of time and effort in dealing with the technical side of photography, the mechanics. If we put that much effort into driving a car, we'd still be at the end of the driveway at the end of the day.


You are exactly correct. Because the technical part is easy to master. To take a photo that others keep wanting to look at is extremely hard for most people. You either born with the eye or not. Most of us will never have the skills to take award winners just like most of us will never play in the nfl, nba, nhl, etc...

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Jan 4, 2018 04:03:11   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
BHC wrote:
ROFLMAO! Have you ever watched someone under 50 try to parallel park in a space between two cars. Most of them park by ear; they stop when they hit something.


Lol!

I’m not sure where you live, but a lot of younger folks buy cars that park themselves.

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Jan 4, 2018 04:23:47   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
tdekany wrote:
Lol!

I’m not sure where you live, but a lot of younger folks buy cars that park themselves.

Well, if you can’t teach a human to do it, invent a machine that will do it for him. Do you remember shovels, the kind we used to dig dirt? Now, any kind of hole you want dug, there’s a rental for that!
😅 😂 🤣

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Jan 4, 2018 04:26:22   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
BHC wrote:
Well, if you can’t teach a human to do it, invent a machine that will do it for him. Do you remember shovels, the kind we used to dig dirt? Now, any kind of hole you want dug, there’s a rental for that!
😅 😂 🤣


How cool is that? Imagine that you can go out to take photographs all day, while a robot does all the stupid work. But you always have the choice to do it yourself.

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Jan 4, 2018 05:00:54   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
gvarner wrote:
I got to thinking. We spend a lot of time and effort in dealing with the technical side of photography, the mechanics. If we put that much effort into driving a car, we'd still be at the end of the driveway at the end of the day.


Aperture, shutter speed, ISO and focus. Everything else is bells and whistles.

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