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Dec 6, 2017 13:35:50   #
tomad Loc: North Carolina
 
dave.m wrote:
If I knew how to insert images in the text as I went along this would be easier! However:

Create a duplicate layer,
Use Select > color range. Use the LH dropper for initial selection then the middle + dropper (or -)to add (remove) other area clicking in the sky area until you think you've got the sky area of interest (not precise but this selection took less than a minute and 3 or 4 dropper clicks) I tend to use 'quick mask' display to see where things are ahppening. See first screen grab below


Once you think you have a reasonable selection, Click OK to get 'marching ants'

You may then need to experiment with Select > modify. I typically increases the selection by 2 or 3 pixels, then feather by 1 or 2 pixels. This will usually ensure no ghost edge is visible on the selection and blend anything you do afterwards (like color fill!) - and not a big deal on foliage but could be on a persons hair.

Make sure layers window is selected then click on the mask icon at the bottom (3rd along in this screen grab) See screen grab 2 below


Hold Alt and click over the layer mask icon to show the mask full screen

Select the paintbrush tool. Use X key to toggle between black and white brush (white reveals and black conceals.) Paint over the bits of the mask you don't want to include in the mask selection

See screen grab 3

Obviously the bigger the brush the quicker but more coarse the result. With this image I used a 40 pixel brush and took a minute but it would take a bit longer if I was working with a high res image I wanted to enlarge :) see screen grab 4

Once you have painted out all non-sky, Press esc to exit full screen edit of mask

Once you finish the mask decide if you want to replace the sky or just give it a bit of colour. As this was not a 'Big sky' I just used a single color to fill for this demo. If you want to replace with an actual sky the principle is the same, except use a layer mask with the new sky as already suggested instead of a sold color fill layer.
To use a solid color, Layer > create new fill layer > solid color see screen grab 5

Once you have a colour you like click OK.

Then click and hold the layer mask icon from the previous layer, drag and drop it over the new solid color layer and click Yes see screen grab 6

Tidy up layers and done. This demo took less than 5 minutes but obviously a lot more care would be required with masking for a presentation enlargement but still less than 1/2 hr I think, maybe an hour tops?

There are several other ways to do this but this works for me and is quick. Hope this helps - PS is so comprehensive it took me ages to piece all these bits together!!
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Thanks dave.m! That's exactly the type of process I was looking for.


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Dec 6, 2017 13:38:39   #
tomad Loc: North Carolina
 
DWU2 wrote:
Although the original photo would have been a better starting point, I took a screenshot and put it through Landscape Pro Studio. Total editing time: about 2 minutes.


How? I used Landscape Pro and had to paint between all the leaves and limbs. This can't be done in 2 minutes. I would like to know the details of your method.

Thanks

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Dec 6, 2017 13:41:43   #
tomad Loc: North Carolina
 
IOBPhoto wrote:
Sometimes this works, sometimes not but give it a try... Replace sky thru trees tutorial. Based on Photoshop.

Open Picture you are working on. Open separate photo with replacement sky. Select all. Edit-Copy. Or Do a selection; then copy & paste over original.

Paste over original... Select Darken... adjust opacity.

choose colors Black and White on left menu. (Ctrl D)

Open Gradient tool: Linear Foreground to transparent

Draw straight line over sky are going upward

adjust capacity again

You may need to make some adjustments but this should get you close.

Good Luck
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Thanks for the steps. I'll see if I can translate those into Luminar and play with it.

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Dec 6, 2017 13:45:01   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
tomad wrote:
How? I used Landscape Pro and had to paint between all the leaves and limbs. This can't be done in 2 minutes. I would like to know the details of your method.

Thanks

I used the Object in Sky tool. You can just basically scribble back and forth until the leaves are darkly silhouetted. You can also use the similar Tree and Sky tool.

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Dec 6, 2017 13:46:58   #
tomad Loc: North Carolina
 
DeanS wrote:
That photo looks like the covered bridge near Asheboro. It washed away a few years ago,but much of the timber was recovered and the bridge reconstructed. I was here before and after and the rebuild crew did an amazing job!


It is. I was taking my daughter to the NC Zoo and noticed the sign to this (Pisgah) covered bridge, so we drove a few minutes out of the way on the way home so I could snap a few pics. The day was completely overcast and I guess I metered on the bridge itself (mostly in shade) so got the blown out sky. I was snapping casual photos in the zoo and my camera was set for .jpg only. I didn't even think about setting it back to RAW (+ .jpg) which is what I would normally shoot for photos like this.

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Dec 6, 2017 13:48:57   #
tomad Loc: North Carolina
 
DWU2 wrote:
I used the Object in Sky tool. You can just basically scribble back and forth until the leaves are darkly silhouetted. You can also use the similar Tree and Sky tool.


Thanks a bunch, I'll give that a try.

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Dec 6, 2017 13:50:44   #
tomad Loc: North Carolina
 
There are so many different tools and different ways to accomplish this! It can get quite confusing just looking for the best/fastest way.

Thanks everyone for all the tutorials! This is a great place to learn from others.

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Dec 6, 2017 14:01:31   #
Jimande Loc: Huntsville, Alabama
 
Download Landscope Pro 1 (free 30 day trial). It is very easy to use, has presets or you can use your own as I do. Reasonable price. Can see some of mine here on UHH. jimande
tomad wrote:
Hey pp experts, I have a photo that has a white (cloudy) sky behind a complex structure of tree limbs with colorful leaves. I've looked at a dozen tutorials on changing sky color (to blue) but every one uses a mask from another photo employing erasing or painting to get around foreground objects. This, if not impossible, would take a year (for me) with this photo because of the complex tree structure with lots of sky showing through between leaves and limbs.

I would think there should be a way to isolate part of the photo to be changed and then just adjust/change one of the colors in that part; in this case the white sky to blue but I have not been able to find a tutorial that shows how to do that. I'm using Luminar, but even a photoshop tutorial may help as I may be able to translate the method to Luminar.

Thanks in advance for any helpful answers.
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Dec 6, 2017 15:19:53   #
Ednsb Loc: Santa Barbara
 
I feel On1 Raw has the best masking tools for this type of composite change. Matt KLOSKOWSKI has a great video which shows how to use it. Regardless it will take some patience with this image. http://mattk.com/on1-system-bonus02/

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Dec 6, 2017 15:33:44   #
photodoc16
 
mborn,
Tell me about Landscape Pro. I am interested in it. Does it do much that is not available elsewhere? Can you easily manipulate the featureless skies?
How much do you really use it?
Thanks,
Photodoc16

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Dec 6, 2017 15:38:34   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
photodoc16 wrote:
mborn,
Tell me about Landscape Pro. I am interested in it. Does it do much that is not available elsewhere? Can you easily manipulate the featureless skies?
How much do you really use it?
Thanks,
Photodoc16


Take a look at their site:
http://www.landscapepro.pics/

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Dec 6, 2017 15:43:13   #
photodoc16
 
DWU2,
Please tell me about Landscape Pro Studio and Landscape Pro. I read that it does have many presets but is it also very good for handling situations like the sky and the bridge? Do you use it very much?
Thanks,
Photodoc16

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Dec 6, 2017 15:58:51   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
tomad wrote:
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I posted something about that recently. Here is the link.

Of course you need Photoshop or a program that uses layers and blending modes.

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Dec 6, 2017 16:20:21   #
Lens Creep
 
jcdonelson, hahahaha!

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Dec 6, 2017 16:22:27   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
photodoc16 wrote:
DWU2,
Please tell me about Landscape Pro Studio and Landscape Pro. I read that it does have many presets but is it also very good for handling situations like the sky and the bridge? Do you use it very much?
Thanks,
Photodoc16


I use it frequently. It comes with maybe 200 different skies to choose from (and, you can use your own), general presets, the ability to reflect clouds you introduce in water in the photo, ability to control the light direction, lighting brushes, and many other features. There are 8 tools to help with selections. Recommended.

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