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Sep 9, 2017 08:49:05   #
jackpinoh
 
I own both the D810 & the D500. I had the D850 on preorder but cancelled it. I was disappointed in the image quality improvements the D850 provides--no significant improvements. As far as the increased resolution of the D850 goes, I also have an A7R2. It's image quality pretty much matches that of the D850. And based on the capabilities of the Sony A9, I believe the next high resolution camera Sony releases-probably within a year-will suppass the D850 in every way. So last night I photographer all of my Nikon cameras and lenses and they will be for sale on eBay on Sunday.

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Sep 9, 2017 09:32:12   #
larryepage (a regular here)
 
It may be worth not rushing into the D850 until there has been time for some real-world user experience to get reported.

The design and feature set seems to be very good, although except for focus stacking, there doesn't seem to be anything revolutionary beyond the D810. My big concern is that there is some real evidence that the D850 may mostly be a significantly cost-reduced version of the D810. For example, the move from a one-piece all metal body to hybrid metal/carbon fiber construction may turn out to be pretty significant. And unless it turns out that the space occupied by the flash capacitor and charging circuitry was needed for something else (which is pretty unlikely given increasing miniaturization), elimination of the built-in flash was likely to have been either to save money or to preserve water resistance with the hybrid body (or both).

I appreciate those brave folks who are willing to jump in at the beginning and let the rest of us know, but believe that there may be some real risks with this new design.

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Sep 9, 2017 10:03:44   #
stevetassi
 
I can't intelligently answer your question without knowing what you shoot.

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Sep 9, 2017 10:16:49   #
Festus
 
joer wrote:
I'd like to hear some opinions on this.

If the resources were available and you presently owned the D810 and D500 would you sell one or both and buy the D850?


Keep both and buy D850.

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Sep 9, 2017 10:30:49   #
StanRP
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
For me, that is exactly right--a definitive attack.
But there is more: Aside from my limited ability, I want to know that I am using the best gear I can responsibly afford to create the best possible images. It the 850 adds features, resolution to that end, I will in time make that choice.
There is no end to the madness.


Hi Kmgw9V,

I disagree with you - yours is NOT a GAS attack. You have a good excuse - oops I mean reason. The 850 adds features, resolution etc, that you need.

I upgraded from the D7100 to the D500 because, at my age and old fingers, the buttons, both on the body and the control wheel on the top left were simpler and easy to change. The illuminated buttons and the built in shutter over the viewfinder was a bonus.

While the D850 creates a slight feeling of GAS - the size and weight with a good lens would make it difficult to take on my walks to the park and almost impossible to 'hand-hold' for taking photo's.

( To answer the "use a tripod" - the main objective is to get me out walking and taking the camera is a motivation)

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Sep 9, 2017 10:57:43   #
joer (a regular here)
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I've never had any interest in the D8xx. It originally had SD and CF card slots. The new model still takes two different types of cards, and it lost its pop-up flash. I know that "Real Photographers" never use that silly little flash, but I do. My D750s are perfect for my needs, and I have a D5300 if I want DX.


I like having two card slots but not different types. Sloppy engineering in my opinion.

No built in flash is a big disappointment to me. I use it frequently. Its very handy for close up photography and as the commander for triggering other Nikon flashes. I don't buy the weather sealing reason for omitting it.

I wish they had kept it and made it more powerful. A slightly larger body would not bother me in the least.

Still, these shortcomings are not a deal breakers. I have one on preorder and hope a decent review takes place before mine is shipped. Specifications and performance are sometimes different.

Judging from the release of the D500 it seems very likely.

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Sep 9, 2017 11:02:14   #
joer (a regular here)
 
jackpinoh wrote:
I own both the D810 & the D500. I had the D850 on preorder but cancelled it. I was disappointed in the image quality improvements the D850 provides--no significant improvements. As far as the increased resolution of the D850 goes, I also have an A7R2. It's image quality pretty much matches that of the D850. And based on the capabilities of the Sony A9, I believe the next high resolution camera Sony releases-probably within a year-will suppass the D850 in every way. So last night I photographer all of my Nikon cameras and lenses and they will be for sale on eBay on Sunday.
I own both the D810 & the D500. I had the D850... (show quote)


What is the basis for lack of image quality. You can't possibly have tested it yet.

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Sep 9, 2017 11:08:50   #
RonM12
 
I have the D810, and as much as I love this camera, will upgrade to the D850. There are several features on the D850 that for me, are worth upgrading. The tilt screen, increased frame rate and buffer to name a few. I can afford to make the move now so going to go for it.

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Sep 9, 2017 11:27:58   #
Kmgw9v (a regular here)
 
Festus wrote:
Keep both and buy D850.



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Sep 9, 2017 11:43:03   #
StanRP
 
joer wrote:
I like having two card slots but not different types. Sloppy engineering in my opinion.

No built in flash is a big disappointment to me. I use it frequently. Its very handy for close up photography and as the commander for triggering other Nikon flashes. I don't buy the weather sealing reason for omitting it.

I wish they had kept it and made it more powerful. A slightly larger body would not bother me in the least.

Still, these shortcomings are not a deal breakers. I have one on preorder and hope a decent review takes place before mine is shipped. Specifications and performance are sometimes different.

Judging from the release of the D500 it seems very likely.
I like having two card slots but not different typ... (show quote)


re:I like having two card slots but not different types. Sloppy engineering in my opinion.

Unless Nikon know something we do not, I agree with you:

re:

I have one on preorder and hope a decent review takes place before mine is shipped. Specifications and performance are sometimes different.


I was pleasantly surprised by the performance of the D500 - especially with the VR on the 16-80mm kit lens. Below is a photo down the path at our local lakeshore park and a crop from the end of the path ( Taken from the RAW file). I was also pleased with the low noise at higher ISO - a photo below taken at the Toronto (On) aquarium at ISO 10,000 and 1/125 sec exposure. Both hand-held.





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Sep 9, 2017 12:04:36   #
cambriaman (a regular here)
 
I have a D800e and a D300 plus Canon SX-50. If I really wanted to get into stop motion, fast frame exposures, I might consider it. Really, I can do everything I need to do with what I have. Especially when the D850 costs almost as much as the two Nikons new prices combined when I bought them (Ignoring value of the dollar then and now).

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Sep 9, 2017 12:15:00   #
mleuck
 
NEVER!

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Sep 9, 2017 12:20:19   #
pdsdville
 
I'm a great believer in "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". If your current equipment works well and does all you want it to, why buy new. It's not the camera you hold, it's the brain between your ears that you hold that makes the difference in your photos. I wonder how many of us use ALL the features of the camera we are holding. I'll bet not many. I have a Sony a77v, and it was a gift from someone I was mentoring. I see no reason to buy another camera until it dies a tragic death at my hands. Good luck on your choice. Oh, if you just want to get rid of money, just send it my way!

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Sep 9, 2017 12:26:19   #
StanRP
 
mleuck wrote:
NEVER!


I have a D800e and a D300 plus Canon SX-50. If I really wanted to get into stop motion, fast frame exposures, I might consider it. Really, I can do everything I need to do with what I have. Especially when the D850 costs almost as much as the two Nikons new prices combined when I bought them (Ignoring value of the dollar then and now).

A wise decision. The dollar # is much higher up here in Canada. The only full frame lens I have is the Nikon 105 macro - so going the D850 route would push cost up towards C$10,00

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Sep 9, 2017 12:32:40   #
GENorkus
 
joer wrote:
I'd like to hear some opinions on this.

If the resources were available and you presently owned the D810 and D500 would you sell one or both and buy the D850?


1st thing, I presently do not own CaNikon, but to thrown in my opinion... (Forgetting those who just have a gas problem.)

Does the newer camera body have something you really need or just want? Example: If you take photos in low light and the ISO values would really help or something like that. (Think of some other example since the 500 and 810 seem to have really good ISO values already. I hope you get my idea.)

Does it have abilities you are dreaming about? Example: You have thousands of older slides or film and want to digitize them. (Providing you have the time needed.) It just might be financially worth your while to get the 850. Something else like that might come into play too.

In those two examples, I'd say sure, do it. If there really isn't an advantage to get the 850, I'd say no.

These thoughts should hold true for any camera, short of a died in the wool collector.

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