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Jun 19, 2012 00:23:55   #
dtcracer
 
I took these pictures on Fathers Day. The sky was blue, and I managed to over expose the photos. (My LED screen on my camera apparently looks darker out in bright sunlight!) I edited them in RAW, but I have been unable to bring the blue back into the sky. Any suggestions?





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Jun 19, 2012 00:30:44   #
oldtool2 Loc: South Jersey
 
dtcracer wrote:
I took these pictures on Fathers Day. The sky was blue, and I managed to over expose the photos. (My LED screen on my camera apparently looks darker out in bright sunlight!) I edited them in RAW, but I have been unable to bring the blue back into the sky. Any suggestions?


Can you post these again and click on save original? Aslo, what PP program are you using and were they shot in raw or jpg?

Jim D

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Jun 19, 2012 00:46:55   #
dtcracer
 
I use GIMP for post processing. The images were shot in both RAW and JPEG. These are the RAW versions after being post processed. I apologize, I did not think to click the store original box until after I had posted.





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Jun 19, 2012 01:35:24   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
I recognize that place. It's War Eagle Arkansas.

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Jun 19, 2012 01:40:32   #
oldtool2 Loc: South Jersey
 
dtcracer wrote:
I use GIMP for post processing. The images were shot in both RAW and JPEG. These are the RAW versions after being post processed. I apologize, I did not think to click the store original box until after I had posted.


I am not familar with Gimp but it may be simular to PSE 10 which I use. All I did was increase the highlights. It brightened the photo a little bringing out the detail a little better as well as the sky.

Is this what you are looking for?

Jim D

I also removed some of the noise & sharpened it a bit.
I also removed some of the noise & sharpened it a ...

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Jun 19, 2012 02:10:23   #
dtcracer
 
oldtool2 wrote:
dtcracer wrote:
I use GIMP for post processing. The images were shot in both RAW and JPEG. These are the RAW versions after being post processed. I apologize, I did not think to click the store original box until after I had posted.


I am not familar with Gimp but it may be simular to PSE 10 which I use. All I did was increase the highlights. It brightened the photo a little bringing out the detail a little better as well as the sky.

Is this what you are looking for?

Jim D
quote=dtcracer I use GIMP for post processing. Th... (show quote)


Thanks.

From what I understand GIMP is very similar to PSE. I have never used PSE (can't afford it) so I really can't say for sure.

It looks better. Maybe the sky wasn't as blue as I thought it was. The day was partly cloudy, maybe there were clouds in that part of the sky?

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Jun 19, 2012 02:11:38   #
dtcracer
 
tainkc wrote:
I recognize that place. It's War Eagle Arkansas.


Yes, it is! :thumbup: :P

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Jun 19, 2012 02:45:32   #
oldtool2 Loc: South Jersey
 
dtcracer wrote:
oldtool2 wrote:
dtcracer wrote:
I use GIMP for post processing. The images were shot in both RAW and JPEG. These are the RAW versions after being post processed. I apologize, I did not think to click the store original box until after I had posted.


I am not familar with Gimp but it may be simular to PSE 10 which I use. All I did was increase the highlights. It brightened the photo a little bringing out the detail a little better as well as the sky.

Is this what you are looking for?

Jim D
quote=dtcracer I use GIMP for post processing. Th... (show quote)


Thanks.

From what I understand GIMP is very similar to PSE. I have never used PSE (can't afford it) so I really can't say for sure.

It looks better. Maybe the sky wasn't as blue as I thought it was. The day was partly cloudy, maybe there were clouds in that part of the sky?
quote=oldtool2 quote=dtcracer I use GIMP for pos... (show quote)


Thats possible. I often don't remember things like cloud cover exactly as they were. Take a look in Gimp and see what they have or meybe someone here uses gimp can help you.

Jim D

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Jun 19, 2012 16:53:31   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
You've pretty much burned out the sky to capture the rest of the photo. Not much chance of recovering anything useful. You'd be better off importing sky from another photo and dropping it in.

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Jun 19, 2012 19:42:05   #
Cooper
 
[quote=dtcracer][quote=oldtool2]
dtcracer wrote:


From what I understand GIMP is very similar to PSE. I have never used PSE (can't afford it) so I really can't say for sure.



GIMP is an open-source free program that has some of the features found in the full version of Adobe's Photoshop. It is not exactly like any particular version of Photoshop, but roughly PS 7.0. Adobe is now up to version CS5.

PSE is Adobe Photoshop Elements, a slightly scaled down version of the full Photoshop. The current version sells for $99.00. I contains most, but not all, of the features found in CS5. Earlier versions, like Elements 9.0, are less expensive than that.

For the average or advanced photographer, PSE does everything
that is routinely required...and then some. The full version, CS5, is primarily used by professionals in graphic arts, professional photographers, and amateurs like me who started out with Photoshop before there was Elements and have upgraded over the years. Starting over, I'd be happy with Elements.

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Jun 19, 2012 19:50:14   #
dtcracer
 
RMM wrote:
You've pretty much burned out the sky to capture the rest of the photo. Not much chance of recovering anything useful. You'd be better off importing sky from another photo and dropping it in.


How would I do that?

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Jun 19, 2012 22:13:00   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
dtcracer wrote:
RMM wrote:
You've pretty much burned out the sky to capture the rest of the photo. Not much chance of recovering anything useful. You'd be better off importing sky from another photo and dropping it in.


How would I do that?

I don't use PSE, though it should be similar. In Photoshop CS5,
1. Go to the Select -> Color range... tool and select your sky.
2. Use the other selection tools to remove the highlights that aren't in the sky (bridge, road and barn roof.
3. Under the Select menu, expand the selection a couple of pixels, then feather them (to smooth the blend)
4. Open a photo with a nice sky.
5. Drag that photo (drag tool, top of the tools menu in PS) onto your photo.
6. Your selection will still be in effect. Go to Select -> Inverse
7. Hit the Delete key. Everything but the sky in your selection goes away.
8. Flatten the layers and save.

I was a bit sloppy, my sky photo had some tree limbs sticking out. Still, it adds something to the image, don't you think? :)



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Jun 19, 2012 22:14:52   #
twindad Loc: SW Michigan, frolicking in the snow.
 
RMM wrote:
dtcracer wrote:
RMM wrote:
You've pretty much burned out the sky to capture the rest of the photo. Not much chance of recovering anything useful. You'd be better off importing sky from another photo and dropping it in.


How would I do that?

I don't use PSE, though it should be similar. In Photoshop CS5,
1. Go to the Select -> Color range... tool and select your sky.
2. Use the other selection tools to remove the highlights that aren't in the sky (bridge, road and barn roof.
3. Under the Select menu, expand the selection a couple of pixels, then feather them (to smooth the blend)
4. Open a photo with a nice sky.
5. Drag that photo (drag tool, top of the tools menu in PS) onto your photo.
6. Your selection will still be in effect. Go to Select -> Inverse
7. Hit the Delete key. Everything but the sky in your selection goes away.
8. Flatten the layers and save.

I was a bit sloppy, my sky photo had some tree limbs sticking out. Still, it adds something to the image, don't you think? :)
quote=dtcracer quote=RMM You've pretty much burn... (show quote)


Nice job!

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Jun 19, 2012 22:20:42   #
Cooper
 
dtcracer wrote:
RMM wrote:
You've pretty much burned out the sky to capture the rest of the photo. Not much chance of recovering anything useful. You'd be better off importing sky from another photo and dropping it in.


How would I do that?


I don't suggest you even attempt it. I'm an experienced user of the full version of Photoshop, and I have done this on several images. I have a file full of sky images for this. I wouldn't even begin to try.

Basically, what you do is have a second image of good sky (and nothing but sky) and bring that in as a layer behind your primary image. Then, you make your primary layer a Layer Mask and paint out the old sky allowing the new sky to show through.

It's fairly simple if you have nice sharp edges that separate the sky from the rest of the image. However, your image would be a nightmare to work on. You would have to paint out the old sky in each of those openings in the bridge. You would have to paint
around the trees that poke up into the sky and keep the leaves looking realistic. At the end, you flatten the two layers into one.

Personally, I don't see problem with the present sky. It's a bit washed out, but that's the way the sky looks sometimes. Sky is not always that deep blue that we like and full of fluffy clouds.

You do have a problem with purple fringing in the trees, and this is correctable, but I don't know if GIMP has the right tools. Eliminating purple fringing requires using the tool that changes a color by changing hue/saturation of the color selected by the eye dropper. There's a post elsewhere that covers this. You could do it in Elements (the $99 program mentioned above).

Here's a photo I took today where I dropped in a new sky, but look at the nice, sharp edges I had to work with. I chose too
deep of a blue sky image, but I wanted to pop something off.

Surveillance System
Surveillance System...

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Jun 19, 2012 22:32:06   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
Twindad, thanks.

Dtcracer, my mistake, I see you use Gimp instead of PSE. I have Gimp, but rarely use it, so I won't go through the same steps and menu references in Gimp. However, as far as I know, the process is essentially the same.

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