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Jun 16, 2017 19:10:38   #
ralphfr Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Here are a few examples of photos shot into the sun that have issues. Is it flare, a dirty/bad lens or some other phenomena? I'm looking for some guidance as to what I'm seeing in them and possible causes and solutions to eliminate them in the imaging process, not PP. These were shot at sunrise without any filters. Thank you in advance for any info provided.


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Jun 16, 2017 19:12:26   #
orrie smith Loc: Kansas
 
ralphfr wrote:
Here are a few examples of photos shot into the sun that have issues. Is it flare, a dirty/bad lens or some other phenomena? I'm looking for some guidance as to what I'm seeing in them and possible causes and solutions to eliminate them in the imaging process, not PP. These were shot at sunrise without any filters. Thank you in advance for any info provided.


sun flare, use a polarized filter to possibly correct the problem.

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Jun 16, 2017 19:22:59   #
ralphfr Loc: Long Island, NY
 
orrie smith wrote:
sun flare, use a polarized filter to possibly correct the problem.


I did at some point put a CP on but definitely not till after sunrise was over. Thank you very much for the help.

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Jun 16, 2017 19:25:30   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
ralphfr wrote:
Here are a few examples of photos shot into the sun that have issues. Is it flare, a dirty/bad lens or some other phenomena? I'm looking for some guidance as to what I'm seeing in them and possible causes and solutions to eliminate them in the imaging process, not PP. These were shot at sunrise without any filters. Thank you in advance for any info provided.


Actually the flare enhances your first two images, really nice. Needs to be eliminated from the second two.

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Jun 16, 2017 19:32:03   #
ralphfr Loc: Long Island, NY
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Actually the flare enhances your first two images, really nice. Needs to be eliminated from the second two.


Thank you lamiaceae!

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Jun 16, 2017 19:53:12   #
twowindsbear
 
What lens did you use?

I'm thinking you used a zoom lens with felatively 'many' elements.

If that's correct, using a single focal lenght lens with 'fewer' elements may reduce the flare a bit.

In general, you'll get flare shooting into the sun like you did.

Good luck

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Jun 16, 2017 20:12:18   #
ralphfr Loc: Long Island, NY
 
twowindsbear wrote:
What lens did you use?

I'm thinking you used a zoom lens with felatively 'many' elements.

If that's correct, using a single focal lenght lens with 'fewer' elements may reduce the flare a bit.

In general, you'll get flare shooting into the sun like you did.

Good luck


Below are the lens specs for my bridge camera. I'm guessing 15 is a lot. When I find myself in this situation again I suppose I'll have to try to position myself in such a way that the flare "enhances" the photo. Thanks for the advice.

Lens 15 elements in 11 groups
EFL: 4.2-126mm (35 mm equivalent: 24-720mm)
Aperture: f/2.8 (W) - 5.6 (T) to f/11

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Jun 16, 2017 21:23:32   #
twowindsbear
 
ralphfr wrote:
Below are the lens specs for my bridge camera. I'm guessing 15 is a lot. When I find myself in this situation again I suppose I'll have to try to position myself in such a way that the flare "enhances" the photo. Thanks for the advice.

Lens 15 elements in 11 groups
EFL: 4.2-126mm (35 mm equivalent: 24-720mm)
Aperture: f/2.8 (W) - 5.6 (T) to f/11


Yes, I'm pretty sure that is your problem. About your only solution is to avoid having the sun, or any other really bright light source, in your image - or, as you say, put the flare to creative use.

Again, good luck!

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Jun 16, 2017 21:43:03   #
ralphfr Loc: Long Island, NY
 
twowindsbear wrote:
Yes, I'm pretty sure that is your problem. About your only solution is to avoid having the sun, or any other really bright light source, in your image - or, as you say, put the flare to creative use.

Again, good luck!


Now knowing this I will make sure I have my P&S with me for sunrise/sunset images. Again thank you very much for this information. Happy Imaging!

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Jun 17, 2017 07:31:29   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
As others have said, it's lens flare, which is not really a major problem. You often see it in movies and TV shows. It doesn't necessarily ruin a shot.

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-star-trek-has-so-much-lens-flare-2015-11
https://www.google.com/search?q=lens+flare+in+movies&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS716US717&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjikZXM48TUAhWCRj4KHdldB-4QsAQIew&biw=1920&bih=950

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Jun 17, 2017 12:30:42   #
erinjay64
 
Either lens flare, or the planet Nibiru. Haha.

Seriously, all lenses have imperfections which produce flare under bright light. Some flares are more interesting than others. Try to use it artistically, and see what you come up with.

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Jun 17, 2017 20:39:48   #
ralphfr Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Erin and Jerry, thank you for the input. Much appreciated.

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Jun 17, 2017 21:23:32   #
sailorsmom Loc: Souderton, PA
 
I'm not learned enough to critique your work, ralph, although I think these images are pretty good. It's difficult shooting into the sun.

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Jun 18, 2017 07:16:40   #
ralphfr Loc: Long Island, NY
 
sailorsmom wrote:
I'm not learned enough to critique your work, ralph, although I think these images are pretty good. It's difficult shooting into the sun.


I do appreciate you looking Sailorsmom. I guess with this camera I'll have to work it into the composition. Thank you.

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