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Mar 21, 2017 09:30:56   #
tinplater Loc: Scottsdale, AZ
 
Thanks to all for the suggestions and interest. I will try the unbricking references mentioned above...I really enjoy the A6000 as a second body to my A7RII and will probably sell the carcus and replace with another A6000 (I will make certain it is version 3.2!) I too am through with updating these cameras!.

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Mar 21, 2017 09:32:42   #
Peekayoh Loc: UK
 
Peterff wrote:
I like going down! 🙊
Don't change the subject!!!

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Mar 21, 2017 09:33:58   #
Peekayoh Loc: UK
 
kymarto wrote:
Not only that, all the a6xxx series sensors suffer from serious banding issues. Sony knows this. I had two a6000s and thought it was a sensor defect, until I did some research and tried out a number of a6000 bodies. All with the same banding, so then I tried an a6300--even worse! I am now using a NEX-7. I am truly disappointed in Sony.
No they don't, suffer from banding that is. What you see is a streaking effect commonly seen on CMOS sensors. The sensitivity to this phenomenon is more or less visible depending on the sensor construction. Each generation of sensor tries to reduce such phenomenon but it is not always possible to do so. The 24Mpix sensor used on the a6000 is more sensitive to this issue compared to previous models. The phenomenon is reproducible on all a6000s using similar condition (bright backlight shot and dark subject in foreground, applying contrast boost in the shadows) but it is mostly noticeable when some post-processing are applied (like for example brightness/contrast change).

Most users will never suffer from the effect but if you do a lot of backlit stuff and push things in post, then switch to a different (more expensive) camera.
kymarto wrote:
I have had Nikons for years without a single problem. My Sonys are full of issues. I'm sorry I ever started with NEX. If I had it to do over again I would definitely go Panasonic or Fuji or Samsung.
Complete rubish, all manufacturers have problems from time to time and I don't see Sony is any worse. In any case, most of Sony's problems come from innovating and pushing the envelope, no bad thing AFAICS.

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Mar 21, 2017 09:37:16   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Peekayoh wrote:
Don't change the subject!!!


OK, I'll just have to stick to potholing then. I like plumbing the depths!

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Mar 21, 2017 09:41:17   #
Shutterbugsailer Loc: Staten Island NY (AKA Cincinnati by the Sea)
 
Peterff wrote:
I like going down! 🙊


Nothing like the "sound" of the slit trombone

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Mar 21, 2017 09:42:01   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Peekayoh wrote:
Complete rubish, all manufacturers have problems from time to time and I don't see Sony is any worse. In any case, most of Sony's problems come from innovating and pushing the envelope, no bad thing AFAICS.


All good points, but Nikon and others use Sony sensors don't they? So do these observations apply to many camera brands?

Just trying to ferret out a bit more understanding!

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Mar 21, 2017 10:35:05   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
Most don't have electronic first curtain shutters.... which when the camera is set to high ISO, is mainly when the problem occurs.

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Mar 21, 2017 10:36:43   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
Peekayoh wrote:
Complete rubish, all manufacturers have problems from time to time and I don't see Sony is any worse. In any case, most of Sony's problems come from innovating and pushing the envelope, no bad thing AFAICS.


Peek, that guy kymarto is a PROFESSIONAL Sony hater. All he ever does is bash Sony stuff.

He has ZERO credibility when it comes to this subject.

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Mar 21, 2017 10:53:19   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
CHOLLY wrote:
Peek, that guy kymarto is a PROFESSIONAL Sony hater. All he ever does is bash Sony stuff.

He has ZERO credibility when it comes to this subject.


That may be true, but he has lots of credibility in most areas, and you are a Sony fan boy.

Which position is more valid than the other?

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Mar 21, 2017 11:56:49   #
tinplater Loc: Scottsdale, AZ
 
[quote=repleo]Try here for advice on how to unbrick your A6000
http://www.1scan.co.uk/sony-a6000-firmware-update-brick-mode/

Thanks! His experience was identical to mine, unfortunately my attempt to "rescue" my A6000 failed again. It can't recognize the presence of the camera during the update process.
Yesterday, on my reattempt, I did get the green progress bar up to about 90%, then it aborted. Today I get nothing despite reloading a new download, rebooting computer, etc. The A6000 is dead.

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Mar 21, 2017 12:24:15   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
Peterff wrote:
Is it time to have a discussion about replacing Sonys with real cameras and should it be Canon or Nikon? 🙀

(Tries to sneak away without being noticed.....)


Gee. Maybe I'm just lucky. I've had two a6000s and my current a6300. Haven't had a problem. I sold my a6000 for other reasons--no audio input jack main one and no need for a backup camera as I'm not a professional with money riding on it.

I did upgrade the firmware on one a6000 without an incident.

Right now, I'm looking for a used a6000 for a friend who wants to start a dog photography business. She does great on her cellphone. Good eye and sense of connection with the dogs, but no money.

Anyone with an a6000 (Or a Nikon 33 or 5500) to donate? Or even sell for a pittance.

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Mar 21, 2017 12:30:12   #
Brasspounder001 Loc: Erewhon
 
Peterff wrote:
Is it time to have a discussion about replacing Sonys with real cameras and should it be Canon or Nikon? 🙀

(Tries to sneak away without being noticed.....)


That's actually a valid point. Sony is not, nor has ever been, a camera manufacturer. It is a large consumer electronics company. My opinion. And a big thank you for not using an apostrophe in the plural of Sony - Sonys!

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Mar 21, 2017 12:32:50   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Brasspounder001 wrote:
That's actually a valid point. Sony is not, nor has ever been, a camera manufacturer. It is a large consumer electronics company. My opinion. And a big thank you for not using an apostrophe in the plural of Sony - Sonys!


An apostrophe can be a catastrophe when used inappropriately. That would have been bad of me!

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Mar 21, 2017 12:55:50   #
jeffhendy Loc: El Dorado Hills, CA
 
This seems to be a damaging unsubstantiated comment. I have a 6000 that works well and I updated it to 3.2 without any problem. It's size, weight and performance with Sony's 18-200 lens enable me to take good pictures in almost every condition. Certainly I believe we should comment on real problems and ask for solutions, but I can't see how making general, undocumented complaints helps. Even if our President thinks so.

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Mar 21, 2017 14:20:37   #
Peekayoh Loc: UK
 
jeffhendy wrote:
This seems to be a damaging unsubstantiated comment. I have a 6000 that works well and I updated it to 3.2 without any problem. It's size, weight and performance with Sony's 18-200 lens enable me to take good pictures in almost every condition. Certainly I believe we should comment on real problems and ask for solutions, but I can't see how making general, undocumented complaints helps. Even if our President thinks so.
That's the thing really, thousands of users have a good experience but the odd problem sets some folk off on unjustified tirades. It's simply a fact that any mass produced item will invariably suffer from the odd problem and sometimes, as with cars and driers recently, from disastrous problems.

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