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Mar 3, 2017 11:18:15   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
Regulars will know I like ICM, even if it does get frustrating. I've been thinking for a while that I would like to try converting one to an impressionist style of painting, so here's the first attempt together with the original. Your opinions, critique and impressions welcomed. I won't sway you with my own opinion as yet.

Daffodil Walk
Daffodil Walk...
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Original ICM Image
Original ICM Image...
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Mar 3, 2017 11:40:14   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
thats pushing the envelope a bit but an interesting concept none the less.

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Mar 3, 2017 12:09:11   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
oldtigger wrote:
thats pushing the envelope a bit but an interesting concept none the less.


Thanks for responding ot, do you mean in photography terms or impressionist terms?

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Mar 3, 2017 12:15:36   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
magnetoman wrote:
Regulars will know I like ICM, even if it does get frustrating. I've been thinking for a while that I would like to try converting one to an impressionist style of painting, so here's the first attempt together with the original. Your opinions, critique and impressions welcomed. I won't sway you with my own opinion as yet.


I think you're on the way to something good. Impressionist painting was what I thought without reading your post, just from first glance. So, my initial thoughts are that you accomplished what you set out to accomplish. I love the treatment in the lower middle where the people and daffodils are, and yes, you were right to get rid of the white rope or line or whatever. I have more difficulty with the vertical and slanted lines up above, which may be because those are then parts of my own images that I don't care for when I've tried this, and I find them distracting. But maybe that is one of the things you actually are wanting, which is fine. How committed are you to having that evidence of camera movement? Is the movement a tool or is its "trail" part of what you want to preserve? I think that's a key question because there are so many ways to achieve the impressionist look. I've been on the prowl for it for at least a year, and am still dissatisfied, but have uncovered a whole bunch of techniques in the journey. Thanks for this conversation.

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Mar 3, 2017 12:28:04   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
minniev wrote:
I think you're on the way to something good. Impressionist painting was what I thought without reading your post, just from first glance. So, my initial thoughts are that you accomplished what you set out to accomplish. I love the treatment in the lower middle where the people and daffodils are, and yes, you were right to get rid of the white rope or line or whatever. I have more difficulty with the vertical and slanted lines up above, which may be because those are then parts of my own images that I don't care for when I've tried this, and I find them distracting. But maybe that is one of the things you actually are wanting, which is fine. How committed are you to having that evidence of camera movement? Is the movement a tool or is its "trail" part of what you want to preserve? I think that's a key question because there are so many ways to achieve the impressionist look. I've been on the prowl for it for at least a year, and am still dissatisfied, but have uncovered a whole bunch of techniques in the journey. Thanks for this conversation.
I think you're on the way to something good. Impre... (show quote)


The 'look' I achieve with ICM makes me think of 'Impressionism', so it seemed a next logical step to add some paint Min. I haven't tried either another photo-route or simply putting paint down on a canvas. It's too many years since I painted for pleasure and I think the learning curve would be too long at my age, but converting a photo, or using it as a guide to achieve a painting is another matter. That certainly interests me.
At the moment, like you, I find the upper part of this attempt far too distracting - even hard to look at as it hurts my eyes. I've not tried doing much with that section due to being afraid of messing it up, but with layers it really matters not, so I will be attacking it further. I'm hoping that I might get some ideas from FYC stalwarts such as yourself prior to going further. Many thanks for commenting, it's appreciated and encouraging.

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Mar 3, 2017 12:37:40   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
magnetoman wrote:
The 'look' I achieve with ICM makes me think of 'Impressionism', so it seemed a next logical step to add some paint Min. I haven't tried either another photo-route or simply putting paint down on a canvas. It's too many years since I painted for pleasure and I think the learning curve would be too long at my age, but converting a photo, or using it as a guide to achieve a painting is another matter. That certainly interests me.
At the moment, like you, I find the upper part of this attempt far too distracting - even hard to look at as it hurts my eyes. I've not tried doing much with that section due to being afraid of messing it up, but with layers it really matters not, so I will be attacking it further. I'm hoping that I might get some ideas from FYC stalwarts such as yourself prior to going further. Many thanks for commenting, it's appreciated and encouraging.
The 'look' I achieve with ICM makes me think of 'I... (show quote)


I am headed out of town for the afternoon but will be glad to add some thoughts when I get back. I've tried and failed a lot, so can share more failures than successes, but I'll give ya what I've got!!

Edit: One quick resource: Susan Bloom's book Digital Painting in Photoshop - I got an edition that was for an earlier version of Photoshop for $1 on Amazon used, and with a few differences that I figured out on my own, it suits the current version quite well.

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Mar 3, 2017 13:09:00   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
I don't have any education in art other than the b&w film class I took a couple of decades ago, so I can only offer my like/dislike.

The yellow-lined path is a terrific setting. I like the distant people, but the closer ones are a little too distinct I think, so I stop looking around in order to try to make out their features. A little trim off the top would help us stay in the moment also.

A terrific exercise, Dave. Looking forward to where this one might end up, as well as future efforts!

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Mar 3, 2017 13:51:56   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I don't have any education in art other than the b&w film class I took a couple of decades ago, so I can only offer my like/dislike.

The yellow-lined path is a terrific setting. I like the distant people, but the closer ones are a little too distinct I think, so I stop looking around in order to try to make out their features. A little trim off the top would help us stay in the moment also.

A terrific exercise, Dave. Looking forward to where this one might end up, as well as future efforts!
I don't have any education in art other than the b... (show quote)


Maybe close figures are not a good idea Linda, I felt the need to simplify them a bit, which I prefer, but maybe they're just not going work. I opted for an 8x10 format to lose a chunk from the top but another slice would help, you're right. I'll let you see where I am when I concede the fight!

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Mar 3, 2017 15:15:13   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
magnetoman wrote:
Regulars will know I like ICM, even if it does get frustrating. I've been thinking for a while that I would like to try converting one to an impressionist style of painting, so here's the first attempt together with the original. Your opinions, critique and impressions welcomed. I won't sway you with my own opinion as yet.


What is ICM?

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Mar 3, 2017 15:18:37   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
JD750 wrote:
What is ICM?


Intentional camera movement. You'll find a thread or two on UHH if you do a search.

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Mar 3, 2017 15:19:20   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
magnetoman wrote:
Intentional camera movement. You'll find a thread or two on UHH if you do a search.


Ok thanks.

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Mar 3, 2017 16:44:18   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I don't have any education in art other than the b&w film class I took a couple of decades ago, so I can only offer my like/dislike.

The yellow-lined path is a terrific setting. I like the distant people, but the closer ones are a little too distinct I think, so I stop looking around in order to try to make out their features. A little trim off the top would help us stay in the moment also.

A terrific exercise, Dave. Looking forward to where this one might end up, as well as future efforts!
I don't have any education in art other than the b... (show quote)


Looking again, I think leave the figures as they are now but use a landscape around 10x8, chopping almost all the evidence of sky.

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Mar 3, 2017 21:29:03   #
Billyspad Loc: The Philippines
 
JD750 wrote:
What is ICM?


ICM is waving your camera about with the shutter open to get a blurred picture you can exhibit on FYC convincing yourself and others along the way its artistic. Yep you guessed it right. There is no real plan or idea of what you are going to end up with. Its called Lucky Art. But some get pleasure from it.

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Mar 3, 2017 21:33:03   #
Billyspad Loc: The Philippines
 
10 out of 10 for the sense of humor Dave. The way you get others to take this seriously creases me my friend. Trust all is well with you and its not too cold.

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Mar 3, 2017 21:48:29   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
it may be art but if you can't replicate it, it isn't photography.
You may well luck into a great rendition of "boating on the Seine" today but
the probability of creating a similar "field of sunflowers" tomorrow is about zilch.

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