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Mar 2, 2017 19:31:18   #
jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania
 
I was recently watching a video by Blake Rudis I think, and in the process of making his adjustments in the Develop module he said he was "double clicking" on the word "White" in the panel. It made a whites adjustment but I have never heard anyone double clicking the name before. I want to know what adjustment is being made when you do this?

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Mar 2, 2017 19:42:34   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
jamesl wrote:
I was recently watching a video by Blake Rudis I think, and in the process of making his adjustments in the Develop module he said he was "double clicking" on the word "White" in the panel. It made a whites adjustment but I have never heard anyone double clicking the name before. I want to know what adjustment is being made when you do this?


It's a feature of Lightroom that allows the user to use the "auto" feature for individual adjustments. All adjustments respond in a similar manner. I know this is available in version 6.

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Mar 2, 2017 19:44:36   #
Bunkershot Loc: Central Florida
 
Double clicking any of the names in the first panel will produce a '0' setting of the parameter. Let's say that the white setting was incorrectly set at +20. The quickest way to get it back to zero is to double click the name versus using the slider.

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Mar 2, 2017 20:12:43   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
jamesl wrote:
I was recently watching a video by Blake Rudis I think, and in the process of making his adjustments in the Develop module he said he was "double clicking" on the word "White" in the panel. It made a whites adjustment but I have never heard anyone double clicking the name before. I want to know what adjustment is being made when you do this?


Hold down the Shift key and then double click the Whites or Blacks to set white point or black point automatically.

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Mar 2, 2017 21:02:18   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
jamesl wrote:
I was recently watching a video by Blake Rudis I think, and in the process of making his adjustments in the Develop module he said he was "double clicking" on the word "White" in the panel. It made a whites adjustment but I have never heard anyone double clicking the name before. I want to know what adjustment is being made when you do this?

First are you familiar with the Whites slider in the basic panel? Assuming you are, as was said, clicking on the slider name will just reset it, or any other slider, to its 0 position. In fact, in all the panels you can click on the text to reset any particular slider or setting. Its not very intuitive but once you know it, it makes perfect sense.

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Mar 3, 2017 04:28:38   #
jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania
 
I'm sorry, I wrote my question down wrong. What I meant was holding down "Shift" and double clicking "White" at the same time. I forgot about the shift key in my initial question.

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Mar 3, 2017 11:50:39   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
jamesl wrote:
I'm sorry, I wrote my question down wrong. What I meant was holding down "Shift" and double clicking "White" at the same time. I forgot about the shift key in my initial question.


So now you know it's setting the white and black points. Remember, this isn't set in stone. Most, but not all can benefit from this.

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Mar 3, 2017 16:51:07   #
Bunkershot Loc: Central Florida
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
Hold down the Shift key and then double click the Whites or Blacks to set white point or black point automatically.

So, what does setting the white and black points do to the image?

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Mar 4, 2017 01:56:09   #
altheman Loc: Christchurch, New Zealand
 
Bunkershot wrote:
So, what does setting the white and black points do to the image?


It improves the the contrast of the image

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Mar 4, 2017 06:57:32   #
Bunkershot Loc: Central Florida
 
altheman wrote:
It improves the the contrast of the image


Thanks, I'l give it a try...

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Mar 4, 2017 09:20:23   #
brucewells Loc: Central Kentucky
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
Hold down the Shift key and then double click the Whites or Blacks to set white point or black point automatically.


. . . and holding down the ALT key while adjusting lets you set the point where you want it, vs where LR thinks it should be.

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Mar 5, 2017 12:18:17   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
brucewells wrote:
. . . and holding down the ALT key while adjusting lets you set the point where you want it, vs where LR thinks it should be.



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Mar 5, 2017 12:21:46   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Bunkershot wrote:
So, what does setting the white and black points do to the image?


It allows you to adjust the picture so that it doesn't blow out the whites, or make the blacks lose detail as if they are pure black. When white becomes pure white or black becomes pure black, there is no detail. It's rare that you see pure black or pure white in life. Even the white Tee-shirt I'm wearing isn't pure white. If all you see is pure white or black, you won't see the texture of that shirt or those shoes or whatever.

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Mar 5, 2017 13:16:07   #
canon Lee
 
jamesl wrote:
I was recently watching a video by Blake Rudis I think, and in the process of making his adjustments in the Develop module he said he was "double clicking" on the word "White" in the panel. It made a whites adjustment but I have never heard anyone double clicking the name before. I want to know what adjustment is being made when you do this?


Setting the whites and blacks as well as the color doesn't guarantee that your PRINTS will come out as you can see on your monitor. I KNOW from using my color lab that they print dark and, at times over saturate color. As a "compensation" I have learned how to adjust to their printers, by making sure the WB is correct on my calibrated monitor, after I adjust white/black levels. I make sure that the "shadow" slider shows definition in the blacks, (reducing the blacks).
Notice! how the WB (temperature ) going towards the "blue" ( left) reduces "saturation" as well as making it sharper, (less blooming).
Since I outsources my prints, I set my adjustments to their ICC printers . It took a few times till I got it correct. My prints come out good all the time.
Prints are not the same as what you see on your monitor. Glossy paper tends too blur the blacks, so the type of paper used is very important.
As a final adjustment tweak the WB to sharpen and reduce color saturation.

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