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Feb 1, 2017 09:04:44   #
JackW
 
I love to buy from KEH but they really lowball you when you are selling them gear. Plus they take some time to pay.
If you're local to Atlanta I would suggest you go talk to Mike at Wings Camera on Briarcliff Rd just north of Clairmont. He has a lot of customers that are students and film enthusiasts.
I think you'll do better there and might even find something you like. He will sell on commission, trade, or purchase the gear from you at better prices than KEH will offer.

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Feb 1, 2017 10:39:53   #
Nymphadora
 
My personal, perhaps wrong, feeling, is that when you shoot film and scan the slide, keep off the 'sharpness' buttons. For me, that is the dead giveaway that a picture is digital. No matter how good a lens is, there is still a very slight softness to it. That is what makes the film 'look' so endearing to us. I saw a photo from a local photographer (who I hated for his attitude) that had a beautiful 18"x24" image of a crane like bird. It was surreal because everything on the blowup was too perfect. Too sharp. Almost like a contact print from some unknown 18x24 camera. I use digital for quicky stuff but still use medium and large format. For 120/620/127 I use film and for 4x5 I use film and tinype and glass negatives...then I scan with a light box and Nikon D60. I still use a Yashica D and a Kiev Hassy copy, and an RB67. I won't get rid of them or the antique 620/127 folders. You CAN scan good slides and negatives and get beautiful prints if you don't over process everything in the digital domain. I make sure the camera focus is perfect, scan the slide, and in digital, I spot, adjust tint and cropping. Only. I do develop all my film, b&w and colour, in the kitchen sink. It's easy and you'll save a fortune by not sending it out. I get about 15 rolls out of an E6 kit that's $32 or so.
You have good cameras and unless you're broke, you'll get pennies on the dollar if you sell them to a camera store. All of this rambling is just my opinion and how I do things. Digitally, I'm not a fan of the un-sharp and sharpness tools. All of that defeats the purpose of the lens characteristics, IMHO. Sorry for the long message..... Nyms

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Feb 1, 2017 10:52:29   #
agillot
 
you could use one of them for black and white , and process your own negative , then scan them . [ easy to do b/w developing ]

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Feb 1, 2017 11:25:35   #
Kuzano
 
HaylonBrackin wrote:
Does all this mean if I am in the market for a medium format camera such as these, I need to purchase now and not wait around?


In my experience (buying and selling) MF prices are going up as film becomes more in vogue. Labs are available. More film and more emulsions are being produced. Nobody is making film camera's EXCEPT LARGE FORMAT. Large format camera's are selling for the prices they were selling for when digital arrived on the scene... not all but many.

I would say if you are interested in good MF or even LF.... prices bottomed out except for the uninformed sellers.

You can still find many totally out of the realm of educated film camera sellers. Such as people who sell to KEH. Very poor practice. EBay is the market.

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Feb 1, 2017 11:46:50   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Uturn wrote:
I know that there has been some discussion on this topic before but here goes:

I have an RB 67 ProS system and a Mamiya 645 and I have just about decided to take them to KEH and take what I can get but with the current chatter about Ektachrome coming back I am now more confused than ever.

My intent would be to shot film and scan the transparencies.
I have had some good results scanning my older images -both transparencies and negatives.

I would appreciate any input to help me decide.

Thanks
Bill
I know that there has been some discussion on this... (show quote)

Why make that decision based on just a single film (and btw. Ektachrome is not coming back). If you enjoy shooting film, why give them away, they are awesome cameras ( and you won't get didely sh..# for them at KEH. I would keep 'em and enjoy them!!!!

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Feb 1, 2017 12:12:51   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Start a museum.
Uturn wrote:
I know that there has been some discussion on this topic before but here goes:

I have an RB 67 ProS system and a Mamiya 645 and I have just about decided to take them to KEH and take what I can get but with the current chatter about Ektachrome coming back I am now more confused than ever.

My intent would be to shot film and scan the transparencies.
I have had some good results scanning my older images -both transparencies and negatives.

I would appreciate any input to help me decide.

Thanks
Bill
I know that there has been some discussion on this... (show quote)

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Feb 1, 2017 12:14:43   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
Kuzano wrote:
Nobody is making film camera's EXCEPT LARGE FORMAT.

BLATANTLY FALSE! I received a new Voightländer Bessa R3M Monday, and it’s only one of several 35 mm cameras still being made, along with some medium format cameras.

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Feb 1, 2017 12:34:39   #
Kuzano
 
RWR wrote:
BLATANTLY FALSE! I received a new Voightländer Bessa R3M Monday, and it’s only one of several 35 mm cameras still being made, along with some medium format cameras.


Sorry, forgot about the rangefinder and Lomo style camera's..... but BLATANTLY.... I don't think so. Just a "brain fart" on my part.

It was not my intent to BLATANT ANYONE!.....D-Bag!

Yes, there are a few camera's still new. Fujifilm, however, is the only current film medium format in the Serious column, that I can think of.

Your new R3M is a high quality acquisition. Leica.... also.

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Feb 1, 2017 12:41:53   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
Kuzano wrote:
Sorry, forgot about the rangefinder and Lomo style camera's..... but BLATANTLY.... I don't think so. Just a "brain fart" on my part.

It was not my intent to BLATANT ANYONE!.....D-Bag!

Yes, there are a few camera's still new.

“Blatant” may have been a bit severe, but you sure sounded emphatic about it! There are also the Nikon F6 and FM10 SLRs.

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Feb 1, 2017 12:53:23   #
Kuzano
 
RWR wrote:
“Blatant” may have been a bit severe, but you sure sounded emphatic about it! There are also the Nikon F6 and FM10 SLRs.


Yeah... I guess that's a problem of mine...and I own it. Always a bit too emphatic. So, thanks for the reminders. I quess you can still buy film camera's, and quality one's at that. The digital "film is dead" crowd has done it's damage to my brain cells, leaving the surviving one cells too emphatic.

I hope you are enjoying you Voigtlander RM3. I am a Voigtlander fan both of old "folders" and glass. I've been fascinated by the current rangefinders, and my best Voigtlander rangefinder was a 1934 Bessa RF folder. I've a thing for 6X9Cm film in folders. I am on the hunt now for a Bessa II folder with Heliar lens (50's era), again a rangefinder.

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Feb 1, 2017 12:55:41   #
dead2fred Loc: Da Bronx
 
I sold most my medium format cameras years ago and got good money for them. Yes, they are labor and brain intensive to use but lots of fun! I had two RB 67 Pro S, Mamiya TLR bodies and lots of glass for them. A Kowa 6X6 with all the attachments and a few 6X6 folders all of which were fun to use. BUT, the lab I used closed up and I started using mailers and the results were not as impressive. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Ektachrome to make a comeback when you can use Fugichrome which has been around forever. I kept a few of the big boys to sit atop the dining room hutch for looks. There are tons of medium format cameras on E Bay for big money but they're not selling and KEH pays pennies on the dollar.

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Feb 1, 2017 13:06:41   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Uturn wrote:
I know that there has been some discussion on this topic before but here goes:

I have an RB 67 ProS system and a Mamiya 645 and I have just about decided to take them to KEH and take what I can get but with the current chatter about Ektachrome coming back I am now more confused than ever.

My intent would be to shot film and scan the transparencies.
I have had some good results scanning my older images -both transparencies and negatives.

I would appreciate any input to help me decide.

Thanks
Bill
I know that there has been some discussion on this... (show quote)


If you "just gotta use film," go buy some Fujifilm Velvia and Provia and play around. It's 'chrome film. Velvia is super saturated, and Provia is accurate.

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Feb 1, 2017 13:07:20   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Uturn wrote:
I know that there has been some discussion on this topic before but here goes:

I have an RB 67 ProS system and a Mamiya 645 and I have just about decided to take them to KEH and take what I can get but with the current chatter about Ektachrome coming back I am now more confused than ever.

My intent would be to shot film and scan the transparencies.
I have had some good results scanning my older images -both transparencies and negatives.

I would appreciate any input to help me decide.

Thanks
Bill
I know that there has been some discussion on this... (show quote)


My Hasselblad will be in my will. Those after me can decide what they want to do with it. Hopeful I will live long enough to buy a digital back for it. I have been work so many hours that I haven't had a chance to put some film through it, but as soon as I can I will.

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Feb 1, 2017 15:00:13   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
Kuzano wrote:
Yeah... I guess that's a problem of mine...and I own it. Always a bit too emphatic. So, thanks for the reminders. I quess you can still buy film camera's, and quality one's at that. The digital "film is dead" crowd has done it's damage to my brain cells, leaving the surviving one cells too emphatic.

I hope you are enjoying you Voigtlander RM3. I am a Voigtlander fan both of old "folders" and glass. I've been fascinated by the current rangefinders, and my best Voigtlander rangefinder was a 1934 Bessa RF folder. I've a thing for 6X9Cm film in folders. I am on the hunt now for a Bessa II folder with Heliar lens (50's era), again a rangefinder.
Yeah... I guess that's a problem of mine...and I o... (show quote)

Well, actually we should be emphatic about our passion!

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Feb 1, 2017 15:05:52   #
pendennis
 
A few years ago, I sold all my medium and large format equipment to KEH, when they were in the Detroit area. I got decent money for them, and since I was doing nothing but digital, I really didn't miss them. However, earlier this year, I bought a couple of new Nikons, and several new lenses after deciding to devote more time to my photography. I looked at a lot of my transparencies, and decided it would be great to start making those images again. I started to price a Mamiya 645 Pro TL, and found a screamingly good deal on eBay, from a dealer in Japan. Mint condition M645 Pro TL, two lenses, three backs, all four extension tubes, and a 2x teleconverter; $500 plus $35 shipping from Tokyo. Since then, I've added a battery of lenses, including a 500mm f5.6, and a 35mm f3.5 at the extremes. I've shot a few rolls of Fujichrome, with the results scanned to CD (yes, Fujichrome does have a green bias). The results are stunning, and it's widened my horizons. Since then I've also purchased a mint condition Mamiya C330s. The thought of 6x6, and color film is appealing, as is B&W.

I also found a mint condition Nikon F6 to continue 35mm shooting.

Since film is still out there, it's another medium that's available. I know I can just about duplicate 35mm on my D750, but I still enjoy the depth that comes from film.

My favorite film K25 is in the ash bin of history. But I'm looking forward to later this year when Ektachrome will become a reality again.

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