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Dec 26, 2016 21:24:33   #
buffyjean Loc: Washington, North Carolina
 
Looking for advice on a canon full frame. I shoot landscapes and grandkids mostly. There are so many different ones out there. Any help is greatly appreciated. I have Sony A7711 now.

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Dec 26, 2016 21:29:18   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Price range?

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Dec 26, 2016 21:31:17   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
Based on what you shoot, you might consider a Canon 6D. I have both the 7D II and 6D. I use the 7DII (Crop Frame) for moving subjects, like sports, birds in flight, etc., but find the 6D (Full Frame) is more than adequate for people, architecture, landscape. It does not have a super-duper auto focus, but that's not really an issue for the kinds of things you listed. Also, the 6D is very good in low light and can be had (if in stock) as a Canon refurbished (in their refurb store) for around $1099. Are there "better" Canon full frames? Yes, but for what you are shooting, the 6D is an exceptional camera at a relatively reasonable price.

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Dec 26, 2016 21:37:16   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
canon 1d series

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Dec 26, 2016 22:17:45   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
The Sony a77II is one of Sony's best crop sensor cameras. But you want full frame Canon. You have the 6D, an affordable full frame. Or you could go used 5D Mark 3. The new 5D Mark 4 is $3500. Body only. The others are quite expensive too. 6D is a good option.

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Dec 26, 2016 22:54:19   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
I too use the 6D and 7DII. The 6D is great for the money and still one of the better Canons for dim light. I even have done Birds In Flight with it using the tricks from the days before AutoFocus. There is supposed to be a 6DII coming out in 2017. Rumor has it having a 24 mega pixel sensor (present one has 20 mp) and an improved AF. But it will be $1999 according to the rumors.

Body only is about $1500, with the 24-105L f/4 lens it is $2099 from B&H, no tax if you are out of NY. I paid 2199 + tax and shipping in Nove 2013.

But that is a great combination. I have gone all day at a Civil War Reenactment and a Steam Punk festival with only the body and that lens. In a well lit room you can get by without flash off a tripod or if you can hold very steady but a small flash makes it much better.

Attached three pictures: 1) indoors by light of Christmas tree and ceiling light 20 feet behind me, exposure increased a bit in processing, no other processing done yet 2) with small flash cropped only 3) outdoors No processing or cropping done.
#1 and #2 are with the 24-105L f/4 lens, #3 with the 70-300 mm lens.

Actually if I had the money I would replace the 6D with the 5DIV and keep the 6D for backup, maybe get my wife to use it instead of her SX50 bridge camera.

By tree lights and ceiling light 20' behind me-exposure brought up a bit in LightRoom
By tree lights and ceiling light 20' behind me-exp...
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Withe a very small flash (Canon 220-no longer made)
Withe a very small flash (Canon 220-no longer made...
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Outdoors, hazy day and a lot of powder smoke in the air
Outdoors, hazy day and a lot of powder smoke in th...
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Dec 26, 2016 23:56:55   #
buffyjean Loc: Washington, North Carolina
 
Thank you.

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Dec 26, 2016 23:57:24   #
buffyjean Loc: Washington, North Carolina
 
Thank you

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Dec 26, 2016 23:58:17   #
buffyjean Loc: Washington, North Carolina
 
Thank you.

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Dec 27, 2016 00:16:23   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
I you click on "quote reply" we will know who each answer is for.

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Dec 27, 2016 00:36:30   #
chaman
 
The OP was asking for advice about full frame cameras...why posting any images at all? She knows what she wants...what is with this compulsion of whoring off images which add NOTHING to the OP request? Besides those images could have been taken with a cellphone and dont show any special characteristic regarding the 6D.

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Dec 27, 2016 01:13:37   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
chaman wrote:
The OP was asking for advice about full frame cameras...why posting any images at all? She knows what she wants...what is with this compulsion of whoring off images which add NOTHING to the OP request? Besides those images could have been taken with a cellphone and dont show any special characteristic regarding the 6D.


Glad to see you in such a nice polite mood and such nice language. Come to that, why do you care? It did nothing to you except maybe take a little time to read and scroll through.

They were to show the IQ of the 6D with and without flash indoors and outdoors just in case there are any doubts or any advice that an "entry level" FF isn't capable. It is called a "teaching moment/opportunity" and after 34 years in the classroom it is second nature to me to respond to such.

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Dec 27, 2016 01:18:28   #
chaman
 
robertjerl wrote:
Glad to see you in such a nice polite mood and such nice language. Come to that, why do you care? It did nothing to you except maybe take a little time to read and scroll through.

They were to show the IQ of the 6D with and without flash indoors and outdoors just in case there are any doubts or any advice that an "entry level" FF isn't capable. It is called a "teaching moment/opportunity" and after 34 years in the classroom it is second nature to me to respond to such.
Glad to see you in such a nice polite mood and suc... (show quote)


Youre right, it did nothing...at all. Teaching moment? The only accurate aspect of that is the word "moment"...teaching? Nope.

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Dec 27, 2016 03:24:55   #
cmc65
 
robertjerl wrote:
Glad to see you in such a nice polite mood and such nice language. Come to that, why do you care? It did nothing to you except maybe take a little time to read and scroll through.

They were to show the IQ of the 6D with and without flash indoors and outdoors just in case there are any doubts or any advice that an "entry level" FF isn't capable. It is called a "teaching moment/opportunity" and after 34 years in the classroom it is second nature to me to respond to such.
Glad to see you in such a nice polite mood and suc... (show quote)


Thank you for those examples. Like the OP I have been considering a ff. It is always helpful to see examples of a photo taken with a particular camera.

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Dec 27, 2016 03:36:48   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
cmc65 wrote:
Thank you for those examples. Like the OP I have been considering a ff. It is always helpful to see examples of a photo taken with a particular camera.


You are welcome.

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