Why do police shoot the unarmed?
Oct 15, 2016 16:52:50 #
Oct 15, 2016 17:43:07 #
Good -- EXCELLENT -- video --------------
I have always viewed Law Enforcement as a profession I would not do simply because I was not good enough to do it ------ I have nothing but respect & admiration for all those folks clad in blue that on a daily basis keep civilization up & running by placing their lives on the line!!!!!
HOWEVER: I have not spent a lifetime -- nor did my my parents or their parents of being pulled over for driving / walking / shopping / or just being HUMAN while BLACK --- I have always been treated with the utmost of respect --- Could that be because I'm WHITE??? --- I for one sure as hell HOPE NOT ---- My 70+ years of experience with Law Enforcement all started the day Mom told me that the Fireman & Policeman were my Friends & believe me they still are --- However I suspect other skin colors then mine my not share my happy life long experience
I have always viewed Law Enforcement as a profession I would not do simply because I was not good enough to do it ------ I have nothing but respect & admiration for all those folks clad in blue that on a daily basis keep civilization up & running by placing their lives on the line!!!!!
HOWEVER: I have not spent a lifetime -- nor did my my parents or their parents of being pulled over for driving / walking / shopping / or just being HUMAN while BLACK --- I have always been treated with the utmost of respect --- Could that be because I'm WHITE??? --- I for one sure as hell HOPE NOT ---- My 70+ years of experience with Law Enforcement all started the day Mom told me that the Fireman & Policeman were my Friends & believe me they still are --- However I suspect other skin colors then mine my not share my happy life long experience
Oct 15, 2016 17:54:41 #
like the one that was shot in tulsa was wound up on pcp or angel dust which ever you want to call it.
Oct 15, 2016 19:01:09 #
I can tell you guys from personal experience that it is much more difficult to avoid falling into sterotypical nonsense when you have to deal with it on a daily basis.
Don't get me wrong, this is not an excuse for, nor will I ever condone r****m, I'm just saying that if I worked on the streets instead of in a Correctional Facility, I would be much more inclined to shoot first and ask questions later. At the end of the day I will be the one going home to my family and I were to anything that even remotely looked like a weapon, I would have no problem expressing my opinion. It is the reason for the training and the tools. The downside of this coin is that there ARE bigots in this world and in spite of the screening, some of them are allowed to wear a uniform. Some just get jaded from too many years of service but overall the system works.
Don't get me wrong, this is not an excuse for, nor will I ever condone r****m, I'm just saying that if I worked on the streets instead of in a Correctional Facility, I would be much more inclined to shoot first and ask questions later. At the end of the day I will be the one going home to my family and I were to anything that even remotely looked like a weapon, I would have no problem expressing my opinion. It is the reason for the training and the tools. The downside of this coin is that there ARE bigots in this world and in spite of the screening, some of them are allowed to wear a uniform. Some just get jaded from too many years of service but overall the system works.
Oct 15, 2016 19:02:40 #
Notice in the video that the man had the choice: a) reach into the truck or b) NOT reach into the truck. He made choice (b) which started the situation downhill. The time to argue a situation is in the courtroom, not on the street.
Oct 15, 2016 19:11:59 #
My advice to ANYONE confronted by law enforcement for any reason - COMPLY, and the sooner the better. I have NEVER heard of anyone being injured while complying with an officer's instructions.
Oct 15, 2016 19:17:24 #
mdfenton wrote:
Notice in the video that the man had the choice: a) reach into the truck or b) NOT reach into the truck. He made choice (b) which started the situation downhill. The time to argue a situation is in the courtroom, not on the street.
I happen to be at work and they don't allow access to YouTube, however, the use of lethal force is not encouraged in anyone's world that I know of and if someone is pointing a gun at you, does it make any kind of logical sense to ignore the loud verbal commands? No, it doesn't... If the cop screwed up he will be held accountable.
Oct 15, 2016 19:32:49 #
a few years back two young Police officers knocked on my front door. They asked to see James White.
As I started to say " Oh, he does not live here" one used the f word to me and told me not to tell him F ing lies. I am an old woman.
I just looked him up and down and told the other man that Mr and Mrs White live next door. which they did. The "officers left without a word of apology.
Hpw can one respect such people?
As I started to say " Oh, he does not live here" one used the f word to me and told me not to tell him F ing lies. I am an old woman.
I just looked him up and down and told the other man that Mr and Mrs White live next door. which they did. The "officers left without a word of apology.
Hpw can one respect such people?
Oct 15, 2016 21:34:45 #
Mollie wrote:
a few years back two young Police officers knocked on my front door. They asked to see James White.
As I started to say " Oh, he does not live here" one used the f word to me and told me not to tell him F ing lies. I am an old woman.
I just looked him up and down and told the other man that Mr and Mrs White live next door. which they did. The "officers left without a word of apology.
Hpw can one respect such people?
As I started to say " Oh, he does not live here" one used the f word to me and told me not to tell him F ing lies. I am an old woman.
I just looked him up and down and told the other man that Mr and Mrs White live next door. which they did. The "officers left without a word of apology.
Hpw can one respect such people?
You cannot respect those two but please do not put all police officers in that category. I was a policeman for many years. I tried to treat every one with respect and dignity; but sometime they would not allow me to do that.
Oct 15, 2016 23:54:17 #
Mollie wrote:
a few years back two young Police officers knocked on my front door. They asked to see James White.
As I started to say " Oh, he does not live here" one used the f word to me and told me not to tell him F ing lies. I am an old woman.
I just looked him up and down and told the other man that Mr and Mrs White live next door. which they did. The "officers left without a word of apology.
Hpw can one respect such people?
As I started to say " Oh, he does not live here" one used the f word to me and told me not to tell him F ing lies. I am an old woman.
I just looked him up and down and told the other man that Mr and Mrs White live next door. which they did. The "officers left without a word of apology.
Hpw can one respect such people?
We are human Mollie and not everyone is like that. It really isn't fair to judge the whole by a few. God knows that not all of the stupid that goes on where I work is done by the inmates.
Oct 16, 2016 09:03:40 #
DeanS wrote:
My advice to ANYONE confronted by law enforcement for any reason - COMPLY, and the sooner the better. I have NEVER heard of anyone being injured while complying with an officer's instructions.
Exactly, Simple as can be !!!
Oct 16, 2016 09:21:18 #
DeanS: My advice to ANYONE confronted by law enforcement for any reason - COMPLY, and the sooner the better. I have NEVER heard of anyone being injured while complying with an officer's instructions.
Nagy: People do not have to comply with everything they say. Many of them issue unconstitutional directives. If citizens do not assert their rights, they will have none. When they do, they are often k**led by a heavily armed bully. The solution to this is not to have people do wh**ever they are told. It is to assure that cops who issue illegal orders are fired and prosecuted.
Nagy: People do not have to comply with everything they say. Many of them issue unconstitutional directives. If citizens do not assert their rights, they will have none. When they do, they are often k**led by a heavily armed bully. The solution to this is not to have people do wh**ever they are told. It is to assure that cops who issue illegal orders are fired and prosecuted.
Oct 16, 2016 09:42:17 #
Mike D.: I happen to be at work and they don't allow access to YouTube, however, the use of lethal force is not encouraged in anyone's world that I know of and if someone is pointing a gun at you, does it make any kind of logical sense to ignore the loud verbal commands? No, it doesn't... If the cop screwed up he will be held accountable.
Nagy: False; he is generally not held accountable unless overwhelming independently gathered data proves his guilt. The purpose of the internal affairs department of law enforcement agencies is to sweep under the rug anything they can about the inappropriate and illegal behavior of cops. Cops are disciplined when they are forced to be by external pressure.
Their victims very frequently did not do anything wrong, not even failure to comply with unreasonable demands. I have been harassed by cops several times and once kidnapped. I was trying to sell burglar alarms to a politician in Wet Lafayette, Indiana. He was leading me to his residence for me to make an estimate, but did not tell me an unmarked police car would be following him.
The cop car faced itself between me and the political. I tried to pass him, but he cut me off. I tried again, and he forced me onto someone's yard. He thought I was the man who had tried to assassinate the politician, their favorite mayoral candidate. He handcuffed me and shoved me into the back of his squad care. He said on the radio, "Well, we got the son of a b***h. Come behind the old abandoned Kroger and join in on the fun."
Several squad cars arrived behind the empty, corroding dumpsters about the same time we did. They pulled out their clubs. Before the first blow landed, the politician, who had a price radio in his car arrived on the scene to rescue me. He rode with the cop who had illegally apprehended me to fetch my car, which had been impounded. The cop wanted to stick me with towing and storage charges. "Trust me, Vinnie, said the politician," who was also a lawyer, "You can't charge him for the car."
The rest of the way, the cop kept fingering his pistol as he drove. He growled at me, "I could have shot you... I could have k**led you." In his feeding frenzy of rage, it did not register on him that he would have k**led an innocent man. The lawyer did not object to what he was saying, either. Worse still, the incident proves the abject lawlessness of the entire police department of West Lafayette at the time. The cop invited anyone cop who heard him to join in on his "fun," which consisted of kidnapping an innocent person and at least beating him into permanent injuries, like brain damage.
I was lucky that politician stopped this sordid game. More than one cop told me since that they plant "untraceable" guns on people like me, as well as drugs. When they found out that I was not the assassin for whom they were looking they would have had to k**l me to cover up their little mistake. My finger prints would have been all over a gun I never touched till I was dead, and drugs I never possessed would have filled my pockets. The public explanation would have been that I shot the gun at them; they gunned me down in self defense. This was only the worst of several misadventures I have had with cops. The good ones provide indispensable public service. The bad ones, of whom there are far too many, are a menace to public safety.
Nagy: False; he is generally not held accountable unless overwhelming independently gathered data proves his guilt. The purpose of the internal affairs department of law enforcement agencies is to sweep under the rug anything they can about the inappropriate and illegal behavior of cops. Cops are disciplined when they are forced to be by external pressure.
Their victims very frequently did not do anything wrong, not even failure to comply with unreasonable demands. I have been harassed by cops several times and once kidnapped. I was trying to sell burglar alarms to a politician in Wet Lafayette, Indiana. He was leading me to his residence for me to make an estimate, but did not tell me an unmarked police car would be following him.
The cop car faced itself between me and the political. I tried to pass him, but he cut me off. I tried again, and he forced me onto someone's yard. He thought I was the man who had tried to assassinate the politician, their favorite mayoral candidate. He handcuffed me and shoved me into the back of his squad care. He said on the radio, "Well, we got the son of a b***h. Come behind the old abandoned Kroger and join in on the fun."
Several squad cars arrived behind the empty, corroding dumpsters about the same time we did. They pulled out their clubs. Before the first blow landed, the politician, who had a price radio in his car arrived on the scene to rescue me. He rode with the cop who had illegally apprehended me to fetch my car, which had been impounded. The cop wanted to stick me with towing and storage charges. "Trust me, Vinnie, said the politician," who was also a lawyer, "You can't charge him for the car."
The rest of the way, the cop kept fingering his pistol as he drove. He growled at me, "I could have shot you... I could have k**led you." In his feeding frenzy of rage, it did not register on him that he would have k**led an innocent man. The lawyer did not object to what he was saying, either. Worse still, the incident proves the abject lawlessness of the entire police department of West Lafayette at the time. The cop invited anyone cop who heard him to join in on his "fun," which consisted of kidnapping an innocent person and at least beating him into permanent injuries, like brain damage.
I was lucky that politician stopped this sordid game. More than one cop told me since that they plant "untraceable" guns on people like me, as well as drugs. When they found out that I was not the assassin for whom they were looking they would have had to k**l me to cover up their little mistake. My finger prints would have been all over a gun I never touched till I was dead, and drugs I never possessed would have filled my pockets. The public explanation would have been that I shot the gun at them; they gunned me down in self defense. This was only the worst of several misadventures I have had with cops. The good ones provide indispensable public service. The bad ones, of whom there are far too many, are a menace to public safety.
Oct 16, 2016 09:53:22 #
PNagy wrote:
DeanS: My advice to ANYONE confronted by law enfor... (show quote)
expected reply from naggy the gun grabber....anyone who teaches their kids to disrespect cops willl possibly attend their kids funerals..
WHat part of teaching your kids respect for the law do you not understand???????? i***t
Oct 16, 2016 10:05:58 #
I never said that there aren't bad cops in the world and I'm sorry that you had to experience such things but there are schmucks in everyone's world, not just yours.
It's pretty obvious that the experience left you with some sour grapes but it doesn't need to dictate your life. Try being Black anywhere in the South. R****m is still very much alive and well and yet great things still come from those who can get past it. Perhaps you should do the same...
It's pretty obvious that the experience left you with some sour grapes but it doesn't need to dictate your life. Try being Black anywhere in the South. R****m is still very much alive and well and yet great things still come from those who can get past it. Perhaps you should do the same...
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