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May 10, 2016 07:58:07   #
micolh Loc: NYC
 
Mac wrote:
You might also want to ask this question in the Post Processing forum section.


You must live in a very rigid room.

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May 10, 2016 07:59:28   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Good morning. Yes, the photograph contains major distractions. For best viewing, you'd want a clean background. The duck heads popping out of the back of the foreground duck present a bizarre effect.

The tail feathers of another duck also distract.

It's your call whether or not to do surgery by way of Photoshop to gain the main subject free of distraction.

I'd say the heck with it, and move on.
robsphotography wrote:
I recently captured an image of a pretty Pukeko bird at a park in New Zealand. This image can be seen here:

http://www.robsphotography.co.nz/A7R2-Pukeko.html

But, because the bird was moving around a lot amongst several ducks, it was almost impossible to avoid a rather "busy" background.

So I have ben debating whether to simply toss this image out or whether to attempt to "photoshop" out the four ducks in the background.

I suppose it could be argued that the image does at least show the natural environment in which the Pukeko lives and that the ducks are a part of this environment.

So, I would be interested in your views about this image, would you toss it out or would you use an imaging program to get rid of the ducks? If you were to attempt the latter, I would be interested in what imaging program you would use and which tools within that program you think would be the most suitable.

This image was captured using the Sony A7RII 42 mp full frame camera with the excellent FE Sony Zeiss 55mm F/1.8 lens.

Thanks for your views on this.

Regards
Rob
I recently captured an image of a pretty Pukeko bi... (show quote)

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May 10, 2016 08:16:13   #
tturner Loc: Savannah Ga
 
I have been the same situation, one solution is to kneel down and hold the camera at low angle, this will give a different perspective "hiding" the clutter behind the main subject

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May 10, 2016 08:26:48   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
anotherview wrote:
Good morning. Yes, the photograph contains major distractions. For best viewing, you'd want a clean background. The duck heads popping out of the back of the foreground duck present a bizarre effect.

The tail feathers of another duck also distract.

It's your call whether or not to do surgery by way of Photoshop to gain the main subject free of distraction.

I'd say the heck with it, and move on.


I respectfully disagree. It's always worth trying to save an image with potential, and the improvement process can be enjoyable and educational, even if it ultimately fails. If this were my photo, I would dive in. Who knows? It could turn out to be an image the photographer is really proud of. >Alan

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May 10, 2016 08:47:33   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
robsphotography wrote:
So I have ben debating whether to simply toss this image out or whether to attempt to "photoshop" out the four ducks in the background..

Regards
Rob


If I were better with PS, I'd give it a try. You can try this tutorial. No harm done if you mess it up, provided you keep this beautiful original.

http://www.diyphotography.net/how-to-cut-anything-out-in-photoshop/

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May 10, 2016 08:48:07   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
aellman wrote:
It's always worth trying to save an image with potential, and the improvement process can be enjoyable and educational, even if it ultimately fails.>Alan


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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May 10, 2016 08:52:53   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Key consideration: "It's always worth trying to save an image with potential."

The photographer must deem so.
aellman wrote:
I respectfully disagree. It's always worth trying to save an image with potential, and the improvement process can be enjoyable and educational, even if it ultimately fails. If this were my photo, I would dive in. Who knows? It could turn out to be an image the photographer is really proud of. >Alan

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May 10, 2016 09:45:40   #
bcrawf
 
robsphotography wrote:
I recently captured an image of a pretty Pukeko bird at a park in New Zealand. This image can be seen here:

http://www.robsphotography.co.nz/A7R2-Pukeko.html

But, because the bird was moving around a lot amongst several ducks, it was almost impossible to avoid a rather "busy" background.

So I have ben debating whether to simply toss this image out or whether to attempt to "photoshop" out the four ducks in the background.

I suppose it could be argued that the image does at least show the natural environment in which the Pukeko lives and that the ducks are a part of this environment.

So, I would be interested in your views about this image, would you toss it out or would you use an imaging program to get rid of the ducks? If you were to attempt the latter, I would be interested in what imaging program you would use and which tools within that program you think would be the most suitable.

This image was captured using the Sony A7RII 42 mp full frame camera with the excellent FE Sony Zeiss 55mm F/1.8 lens.

Thanks for your views on this.

Regards
Rob
I recently captured an image of a pretty Pukeko bi... (show quote)


Since you can try it without losing your original, go ahead and see what you get. Use the tools you have unless you are ready to move up to PhotoShop.

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May 10, 2016 09:46:37   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
anotherview wrote:
Key consideration: "It's always worth trying to save an image with potential."

The photographer must deem so.


Indeed! :thumbup:

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May 10, 2016 10:14:34   #
pjarbit Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
I spent only 5 minutes on getting rid of the distractions for a reason. To see if the pic is better with or without the distracting backgrounds. If you decide its a "keeper" spend some time and make it look really good. The question still has not been addressed, is the pic better without the distractions? This is the question the author of the thread asked. I think it is better with a clean background.

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May 10, 2016 10:16:24   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
pjarbit wrote:
I spent only 5 minutes on getting rid of the distractions for a reason. To see if the pic is better with or without the distracting backgrounds. If you decide its a "keeper" spend some time and make it look really good. The question still has not been addressed, is the pic better without the distractions? This is the question the author of the thread asked. I think it is better with a clean background.


As I said in an earlier post, there is a compromise between background and no background. That is to defocus the background. This has worked well for me in many situations.

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May 10, 2016 10:18:26   #
pjarbit Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
aellman wrote:
As I said in an earlier post, there is a compromise between background and no background. That is to defocus the background. This has worked well for me in many situations.


Ok, well show me what you got! Im not sure a bokeh will look appropriate in this image, but would love to see your technique.

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May 10, 2016 11:33:37   #
valley4photo Loc: Lemon Grove, Ca. 91945
 
robsphotography wrote:
I recently captured an image of a pretty Pukeko bird at a park in New Zealand. This image can be seen here:

http://www.robsphotography.co.nz/A7R2-Pukeko.html

But, because the bird was moving around a lot amongst several ducks, it was almost impossible to avoid a rather "busy" background.

So I have ben debating whether to simply toss this image out or whether to attempt to "photoshop" out the four ducks in the background.

I suppose it could be argued that the image does at least show the natural environment in which the Pukeko lives and that the ducks are a part of this environment.

So, I would be interested in your views about this image, would you toss it out or would you use an imaging program to get rid of the ducks? If you were to attempt the latter, I would be interested in what imaging program you would use and which tools within that program you think would be the most suitable.

This image was captured using the Sony A7RII 42 mp full frame camera with the excellent FE Sony Zeiss 55mm F/1.8 lens.

Thanks for your views on this.

Regards
Rob
I recently captured an image of a pretty Pukeko bi... (show quote)

Very easy to remove other birds & you have a nice photo.

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May 10, 2016 12:49:21   #
captgac
 
robsphotography wrote:
Hi thanks, yes without the ducks it's quite a nice image and perhaps I should continue with my somewhat slow efforts at retouching it in Photoshop!

Or, I could just do a "portrait" (as shown on my web page above) and this would reduce the Photoshop time considerably.Because it's a 42mp image, the cropped portrait image is still large enough for a sharp A4-sized print.

Cheers
Rob



Don't forget to take the shadow of the duck out.

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May 10, 2016 13:38:18   #
cjeisch
 
You can make it looklike this in elements by blurring the background using the selection tool and then use the clone stamp tool.



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