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May 1, 2016 13:48:42   #
avery48 Loc: Jefferson City
 
haroldross wrote:
Try just using the CF card. The 5D MK III will slow down to the slowest speed card in the camera. The SD card slot does not support the fastest of the SD cards.

The continous shooting speed is also affected by the lens used, AF, and ISO speed. Try manual focus and ISO 100 and see if you get 5-6 frames per second. I have used the Transcend 400x CF in mine with good results when shooting continuous frames. It seems that higher ISO images are larger in size so the buffer fills up faster.


Harold, I found this to be particularly helpful! I'm away from home at the moment and no where close to my manual. This answers lots of questions. :!:

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May 1, 2016 13:52:03   #
Armadillo Loc: Ventura, CA
 
Bill_de wrote:
I want that camera --- what is it?

Edit - while I was typing LFingar covered all the point below, so you can ignore what follows.

OP - Auto focus could slow things down, but could also mean a lot of out of focus shots. If your camera has the option, set it to "shutter" priority rather than "Focus" priority. It will continue to shoot while acquiring focus, as your subject moves.

Also, be sure you are not using a slow shutter speed.



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I want that camera --- what is it? br br color=r... (show quote)


Bill,

A Canon 7D in burst mode during the moment the Surfer caught the wave crest until he was launched into space at the end of the ride.

Michael G

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May 1, 2016 14:17:42   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Armadillo wrote:
Bill,

A Canon 7D in burst mode during the moment the Surfer caught the wave crest until he was launched into space at the end of the ride.

Michael G


That camera can shoot at 8 frames per second, not hundreds. The buffer will support storing/transferring over 100 frames per burst. That's not the same as 8 FPS.

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May 1, 2016 14:27:12   #
Armadillo Loc: Ventura, CA
 
Bill_de wrote:
That camera can shoot at 8 frames per second, not hundreds. The buffer will support storing/transferring over 100 frames per burst. That's not the same as 8 FPS.


Bill,

Correct. My bad!

What I recall from the moment O pressed the shutter and panned the Surfer, the shutter ran continuously in one long burs of ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZs.

Perhaps I should have written frames per minute. The Dude was only up on the crest for a moment.

Michael

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May 1, 2016 14:38:05   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
avery48 wrote:
I could use some assistance from more veteran photographers. I shoot with a Canon 5D Mark 3 and am trying to improve on sports photography (grandsons in sports). When I want to shoot continuous frames in an event, I can only muster up a two or three fps. I know that camera can do better. What do I need to set to get maximum fps? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I use Lexar 800x 16 gig CF and Transcend 32 gig 90mb/s 600x SD cards typically, if that makes any difference.

d.


Exactly how do you have your camera set up for shooting? There are many more things other than cards that effect shooting speeds. You might have selected low as your shoot speed. As others here would say, you need to post a "picture" so we can see your problem. For what it is worth, if you use two cards and they are not identical read/write speeds the slower card will drag the system down to it's speed. Take one card out of your camera and see if it speeds up. Probably not, but it might prove to you that is not the problem.

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May 1, 2016 15:19:34   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Nalu wrote:
SS know way more about this than I do.


Nalu, you are absolutely correct and your point IS very valid! Card speed can make a huge difference. In this case the card speed listed is fast enough BUT, oftentimes, especially with cheaper cards, only the "read" speed is listed. The "write" speed might be only half that speed making the card seemingly faster than it actually is. Or maybe it's the other way around! LoL
The limiting factors with actual fast cards is how MUCH info you're asking the camera to process simultaneously. For example fine Raw+JPEG with a high degree of picture styles and heavy noise suppression all at the same time, especially to one card and not two.
So that he says his card speed is 90 that is likely how fast the card downloads to the computer and not how fast it's allowing the camera to put info into the card.
So you are right, the card speed IS critical and may be here as well.
A card with a speed of 90/90 is a completely different animal than a 90/35. The manufacturer is only gonna list the 90 download speed to give the false impression that the card truly is fast when it's not.
Thanks for your above responce to allow me to clarify.
And we haven't even mentioned that maybe he's really having a buffer problem. The non-action cameras have very small buffers.
Thanks Nalu! :thumbup:
SS

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May 1, 2016 16:07:45   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
avery48 wrote:
I could use some assistance from more veteran photographers. I shoot with a Canon 5D Mark 3 and am trying to improve on sports photography (grandsons in sports). When I want to shoot continuous frames in an event, I can only muster up a two or three fps. I know that camera can do better. What do I need to set to get maximum fps? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I use Lexar 800x 16 gig CF and Transcend 32 gig 90mb/s 600x SD cards typically, if that makes any difference.

d.


there is a setting for continuous shooting speed - make sure it is set to high - so you can get 6 fps. The low will only give you 3 fps.

Shooting only jpeg in this camera will not give you more fps - it will only allow you more shots before the buffer fills up - about 65 frames or so.

Shooting raw+jpeg is the worst case - you will only get 7 shots before the buffer fills.

Shooting just raw, you will get 13 shots.

If you are using a faster UDMA mode 7 SD card, you'll get 16,000 jpegs, 18 raw and still only 7 raw+jpeg before the buffer fills. But it will still be 6 fps.

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May 1, 2016 17:58:12   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Nalu, you are absolutely correct and your point IS very valid! Card speed can make a huge difference. In this case the card speed listed is fast enough BUT, oftentimes, especially with cheaper cards, only the "read" speed is listed. The "write" speed might be only half that speed making the card seemingly faster than it actually is. Or maybe it's the other way around! LoL
The limiting factors with actual fast cards is how MUCH info you're asking the camera to process simultaneously. For example fine Raw+JPEG with a high degree of picture styles and heavy noise suppression all at the same time, especially to one card and not two.
So that he says his card speed is 90 that is likely how fast the card downloads to the computer and not how fast it's allowing the camera to put info into the card.
So you are right, the card speed IS critical and may be here as well.
A card with a speed of 90/90 is a completely different animal than a 90/35. The manufacturer is only gonna list the 90 download speed to give the false impression that the card truly is fast when it's not.
Thanks for your above responce to allow me to clarify.
And we haven't even mentioned that maybe he's really having a buffer problem. The non-action cameras have very small buffers.
Thanks Nalu! :thumbup:
SS
Nalu, you are absolutely correct and your point IS... (show quote)



Appreciate the info on cards. Need to read the fine print if it is available. I still have. It figured out why my older 100/400 slowes both the 7dII and 1dx. Must be something to do with Af. 600 mm,400 mm doii, and 70-200 work fine. If that older 100-400 weren't so sharp I'd drop it.

Thx for the comments. Later.

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May 1, 2016 18:44:11   #
avery48 Loc: Jefferson City
 
Thanks to all for some great input! I'll experiment to see what works best.

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May 2, 2016 06:16:06   #
Szalajj Loc: Salem, NH
 
Bill_de wrote:


Also, be sure you are not using a slow shutter speed.

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OP is shooting sports, slower shutter speed are often an option in order to obtain sharp, in focus shots.

I ran into buffering problems on my Canon Rebel T5, which turned out to be two fold. First, I had to stop shooting in JPEG to get a decent burst speed. Second, the T5 just wasn't engineered to shoot RAW at the speeds that I was trying to shoot. I will be upgrading to the 7D Mark II, as soon as I save up enough to purchase it.

As someone mentioned, change from recording to both cards to a single card until that card is full. Yes, purchasing the fastest card your camera will handle is advised.

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May 2, 2016 07:49:53   #
Boentgru Loc: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
 
"Turning off auto-focus I recorded several hundred exposures in a second. (of course most of those were not worth keeping)."

Really? What kind of a camera are you using? I have to go to a specialized cine camera to get that king of performance.

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May 2, 2016 07:54:40   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
avery48 wrote:
Nalu, good point. I'm writing one card (SD) to raw and the other to jpeg, simultaneously. So how would I change the settings to get a faster fps count and still shoot raw? I know professionals shoot raw and still get quick captures.


Actually I read an article by a sports photographer who covers the NFL and he says they do not shoot raw. Just JPEG.
Try that.

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May 2, 2016 08:49:17   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
avery48 wrote:
I could use some assistance from more veteran photographers. I shoot with a Canon 5D Mark 3 and am trying to improve on sports photography (grandsons in sports). When I want to shoot continuous frames in an event, I can only muster up a two or three fps. I know that camera can do better. What do I need to set to get maximum fps? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I use Lexar 800x 16 gig CF and Transcend 32 gig 90mb/s 600x SD cards typically, if that makes any difference.

d.


What lens are you using ( f-stop of the lens) and what are the lighting conditions ??

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May 2, 2016 08:49:44   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Actually I read an article by a sports photographer who covers the NFL and he says they do not shoot raw. Just JPEG.
Try that.


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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May 2, 2016 08:56:37   #
avery48 Loc: Jefferson City
 
imagemeister wrote:
What lens are you using ( f-stop of the lens) and what are the lighting conditions ??


Using mostly Canon 70-200 L IS f2.8 and Canon 24-105 L IS f4 lenses.

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