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Mar 30, 2016 09:18:27   #
Triplets Loc: Reading, MA
 
I'm considering a purchase of a couple of 77mm ND filters and trying to decide on a brand. I'm leaning towards either B+W or Hoya. Are these considered good filters? If not, what are some recommendations?

Regards,

Dennis (aka Triplets)

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Mar 30, 2016 09:35:18   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Both are excellent brand of filters. Most photographers will go for B+W.

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Mar 30, 2016 09:37:00   #
Triplets Loc: Reading, MA
 
camerapapi wrote:
Both are excellent brand of filters. Most photographers will go for B+W.


Thanks Papi.

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Mar 30, 2016 09:44:33   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Triplets wrote:
I'm considering a purchase of a couple of 77mm ND filters and trying to decide on a brand. I'm leaning towards either B+W or Hoya. Are these considered good filters? If not, what are some recommendations?

Regards,

Dennis (aka Triplets)


My choice is B+W. They are owned by Schneider and my personal experience with them is this, they are honest and dedicated to very high quality products.
--Bob

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Mar 30, 2016 09:45:29   #
sidpearce
 
The very best filters are Lee.
Problem is they are made of quality glass and you handle with care

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Mar 30, 2016 09:46:13   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Save some money and go with Haida...they use the same glass (Schott Glass) as some of the high end manufacturers. I use them along with b&w

http://www.manateevoyager.co.uk/haida-10-stop-nd-filter.html

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Mar 30, 2016 09:47:59   #
Jim Bob
 
Triplets wrote:
I'm considering a purchase of a couple of 77mm ND filters and trying to decide on a brand. I'm leaning towards either B+W or Hoya. Are these considered good filters? If not, what are some recommendations?

Regards,

Dennis (aka Triplets)


Hoya. Independent test from Lenstip (best of memory) confirms it to be better than B+W even if the latter is chosen by most photographers (I would like to see some data to support such a claim) as one poster asserts. Go here: http://www.lenstip.com/113.1-article-UV_filters_test.html

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Mar 30, 2016 10:32:55   #
Triplets Loc: Reading, MA
 
rmalarz wrote:
My choice is B+W. They are owned by Schneider and my personal experience with them is this, they are honest and dedicated to very high quality products.
--Bob


Thanks Bob

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Mar 30, 2016 10:48:21   #
Triplets Loc: Reading, MA
 
Thanks everyone.

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Mar 30, 2016 11:29:34   #
wolfman
 
Triplets wrote:
I'm considering a purchase of a couple of 77mm ND filters and trying to decide on a brand. I'm leaning towards either B+W or Hoya. Are these considered good filters? If not, what are some recommendations?

Regards,

Dennis (aka Triplets)


Check out the Breakthrough Photography brand. I have the 10 stop X3 and it is an excellent filter, with a 25 yr. warranty.
In these tests, it outperformed all the rest.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/10-Stop-Neutral-Density-Filter.aspx

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Mar 30, 2016 11:31:56   #
Haydon
 
wolfman wrote:
Check out the Breakthrough Photography brand. I have the 10 stop X3 and it is an excellent filter, with a 25 yr. warranty.
In these tests, it outperformed all the rest.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/10-Stop-Neutral-Density-Filter.aspx


There was a thread going on at Canon Rumors about that filter. Maybe it's premature, but it wasn't accepted well unfortunately by some of the members.

I use both B+W and Lee's. Love both of them for their different uses.

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Mar 30, 2016 11:49:49   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Many filter manufacturers make several grades of filters to offer them at different prices.

B+W makes less expensive, uncoated, aluminum framed filters... single coated filters that cost a little more... and multi-coated, brass framed that are more expensive... plus in some types "nano" multi-coated that are their top-of-the-line, more resistant to scratching, easier to clean and most expensive.

Hoya does something similar.

You might not see as many choices in ND type filters as you do in, say, Circular Polarizers. But you will probably at least find uncoated and coated in many brands. Regardless of brand I'd definitely look for multi-coated. Hoya labels their multi-coated "HMC" and B+W labels theirs "MRC".

Brass frames are less likely to bind and get stuck on lenses that have aluminum or other types of metal threads... but may not be necessary on modern lenses that use plastic threads instead.

If you are seeking specific ND strengths, you might need to consider multiple brands. Most brands make only certain types of ND.

For example, B+W offers:
ND.3 (101) = 1 stop
ND.6 (102) = 2 stop
ND.9 (103) = 3 stop
ND1.8 (106) = 6 stop
ND3.0 (110) = 10 stop

And Hoya offers:
ND1000 = 10 stop (multi-coated?)
NDX500 = 9 stop
NDX200 = 7.6 stop
NDX100 = 6.6 stop
NDX64 = 6 stop
ND32 = 5 stop (multi-coated?)
ND16 = 4 stop (multi-coated?)
NDX8 = 3 stop
NDX4 = 2 stop
NDX2 = 1 stop

Haida offers uncoated, multi-coated and nano-multi-coated:
ND0.3 (2x), 1 stop
ND0.6 (4x), 2 stops
ND0.9 (8x), 3 stops
ND1.8 (64x), 6 stops
ND2.7 (400x), 9 stops
ND3.0 (1000x), 10 stops



I'd be concerned that testing of UV filters might not be very applicable to choosing ND, CPL or any other type of filters (Lenstip site has a CPL comparison, but it's a big fail because of some issues they never went back and corrected). Also, a seven year old "test" may or may not be relevant today. In some cases, newer types of multi-coatings are now offered and manufacturers have changed their designations.

sidpearce wrote:
The very best filters are Lee.
Problem is they are made of quality glass and you handle with care


Lee filters are excellent. Their 15 stop Super Stopper is one of the strongest ND made by anyone. But the problem is that they only make square (100x100mm & 150x150mm) and rectangular type which are expensive, bulkier and difficult to shade with a hood than a screw-in filter... plus Lee are not multi-coated.

wolfman wrote:
Check out the Breakthrough Photography brand. I have the 10 stop X3 and it is an excellent filter, with a 25 yr. warranty.
In these tests, it outperformed all the rest.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/10-Stop-Neutral-Density-Filter.aspx


Weird name! "Breakthrough" sound to be very good, but their "X3" are also VERY expensive (and I haven't been able to tell what the difference is between those and the cheaper "X2" ). Only available in three strengths, too: 3 stop, 6 stop and 10 stop.

The Digital Picture appears to be a more recent testing and comparison, since it includes the relatively recently inroduced Breakthrough. It also includes Heliopan and Singh-Ray, two more excellent, if pricey, brands. This test only looks at 10-stop filters... so it omits some Hoya that might be multi-coated and perform better than the 10-stop sample Bryan tested.

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Mar 30, 2016 17:33:44   #
wolfman
 
Haydon wrote:
There was a thread going on at Canon Rumors about that filter. Maybe it's premature, but it wasn't accepted well unfortunately by some of the members.

I use both B+W and Lee's. Love both of them for their different uses.


I also use Lee filters now, as I got tired of screwing it on and off, but it is an excellent filter.

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Mar 31, 2016 05:31:51   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
the B+W have brass rings.
camerapapi wrote:
Both are excellent brand of filters. Most photographers will go for B+W.

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Mar 31, 2016 05:39:41   #
Ted Liette Loc: Greenville, Ohio
 
I've used Hoya for a long time and I have to say I'm satisfied with them.

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