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Mar 16, 2016 15:50:20   #
stepping beyond Loc: usa eastcoast
 
I've been working on this target at my leisure until it cleared the trees and got higher in the sky. Next, I need to learn how to process this without overcooking it. All it has is AS2 and reg6 wavelets for starters. I just couldn't resist sharing my excitement on a night that wasn't going well. It's a 2 fer Jupiter and 1 of it's satellite



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Mar 16, 2016 17:14:01   #
Albuqshutterbug Loc: Albuquerque NM
 
stepping beyond wrote:
I've been working on this target at my leisure until it cleared the trees and got higher in the sky. Next, I need to learn how to process this without overcooking it. All it has is AS2 and reg6 wavelets for starters. I just couldn't resist sharing my excitement on a night that wasn't going well. It's a 2 fer Jupiter and 1 of it's satellite


The hardest thing is shooting for the satellites and not over exposing the primary target.
I don't know if you are processing singles in AS2 or AVI's but AVI's will let you stack large numbers of shots and the satellites will fall into place. If this is with singles, you did a respectable job of it. Keep working at it, I see lots of progress.
:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Mar 16, 2016 17:49:05   #
stepping beyond Loc: usa eastcoast
 
Thank you asb , It's a 3026 frame avi taken with my slow fps Levenhuk T510NG color digital from 10-11.6 fps for 5 min. It did give me time to adjust focusing, brightness and saturation while collecting data. I've made an improvement and that's good enough for me. NO quit in me on anything. I've been trying this for 6 separate nights and it finally clicked. Woohoo, that satellite just popped in doing wavelets, always striving for better results always.

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Mar 16, 2016 19:32:09   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
Or you can overexpose jupiter for one stack to get the moons of Jupiter in good exposure, then create a second stack in which jupiter will be properly exposed and the moons barely visible. Then you process both stacks and do a cut and paste of properly exposed jupiter and a bit of sky to cover the over exposed Jupiter. That way you get everything properly exposed.
Albuqshutterbug wrote:
The hardest thing is shooting for the satellites and not over exposing the primary target.
I don't know if you are processing singles in AS2 or AVI's but AVI's will let you stack large numbers of shots and the satellites will fall into place. If this is with singles, you did a respectable job of it. Keep working at it, I see lots of progress.
:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Mar 18, 2016 02:37:32   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
That looks great, Ronnie.
You've greatly improved! ;)
I've been working on a DSO for several nights now, NGC 2244. Last night was a total bust as my USB kept messing up. I gave up and packed it in early.
But I think I straightened it out tonight. Been tracking and doing long images.
My Jupiter looks like a star with some tiny orbiting stars around it. :? Poop.

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Mar 18, 2016 12:44:22   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
I can no longer lift my rig or set it up outside, but here is an example of using two stacks, one exposed for the moons and one for Jupiter and combining them.


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Mar 18, 2016 12:51:55   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
That is a great example, Bob!
Well done, and all the details help a lot!

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Mar 18, 2016 13:00:25   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
Thanks Sonny.
SonnyE wrote:
That is a great example, Bob!
Well done, and all the details help a lot!

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Mar 19, 2016 09:49:07   #
stepping beyond Loc: usa eastcoast
 
Bob , that's a good idea on how to bring the moons out. I run all my avi's through AS2 and reg6 and it can only get better as long as the freeware doesn't glitch. I took this 1 of 4 with a thin layer of clouds overhead and 2 nights later took another 2 just to see what the differences are , also ease of processing. Not much difference when you save the wavelet settings.

can't seem to get rid of the rings around it
can't seem to get rid of the rings around it...
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rings are faded and moon is gone
rings are faded and moon is gone...

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Mar 19, 2016 10:52:12   #
stepping beyond Loc: usa eastcoast
 
SonnyE, I think you're just blowing smoke up my ---. You've done some awesome imaging in the past, sky conditions, electronics and just plain ole not having a clue mess up on me an awful lot but, every once in a while I can collect some quality data. I'm glad that my buds gave me good advice and inspiration to finally achieve results that I can live with , I was getting tired of beating my head against a wall. Though it isn't awesome , it's better than previous attempts. Everything has to work in harmony for results to show improvement, I've got AG down pat and positioning of the Telrad. I now have some new neighbors that leave their -------- lights on and I'm ------.

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Mar 19, 2016 13:04:00   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
Not of Jupiter, :lol:
It eludes me.
But I'll make you a deal, you keep bringing the planetary stuff, and I'll try and bring the naughty nebulae. ;)

Last night I experienced more USB anomalies. I haven't been able to sort it out yet. :?: :?
I have my hub at the computer and my cables coming to it. So I'm wondering if I got too long in my wiring. Data collisions and such malarkey. (I know, it's a long shot, but sumting not rite.)
And the sky was quite weird, lots of moisture, almost fog.

Anyway, here's my last Jupiter. I did get all 4 moons.
I took these 2-24-16.

Jumpin Jupiter @ 1 second... :^(
Jumpin Jupiter @ 1 second... :^(...
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0.5 second
0.5 second...
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Mar 20, 2016 00:42:53   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
I took the liberty of downloading your top shot and just edited it in microsoft paint. I magnified it and erased the rings and then filled the erased space with the color of the sky. It took three passes to get rid of all the ghost rings, but the whole process only took about 10 minutes. I also cropped it to eliminate some of the dark sky.
Bob

stepping beyond wrote:
Bob , that's a good idea on how to bring the moons out. I run all my avi's through AS2 and reg6 and it can only get better as long as the freeware doesn't glitch. I took this 1 of 4 with a thin layer of clouds overhead and 2 nights later took another 2 just to see what the differences are , also ease of processing. Not much difference when you save the wavelet settings.


(Download)

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Mar 20, 2016 00:45:45   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
That's the first step Sonny. Next you change your exposure so Jupiter is correctly exposed and the moons are barely visible. Then you just do a cut and paste of the correctly exposed Jupiter and enough sky to cover the over exposed Jupiter. I don't know of any other way to get the moons highly visible and Jupiter properly exposed without creating a composite.
Bob

SonnyE wrote:
Not of Jupiter, :lol:
It eludes me.
But I'll make you a deal, you keep bringing the planetary stuff, and I'll try and bring the naughty nebulae. ;)

Last night I experienced more USB anomalies. I haven't been able to sort it out yet. :?: :?
I have my hub at the computer and my cables coming to it. So I'm wondering if I got too long in my wiring. Data collisions and such malarkey. (I know, it's a long shot, but sumting not rite.)
And the sky was quite weird, lots of moisture, almost fog.

Anyway, here's my last Jupiter. I did get all 4 moons.
I took these 2-24-16.
Not of Jupiter, :lol: br It eludes me. br But I... (show quote)

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Mar 20, 2016 18:49:18   #
stepping beyond Loc: usa eastcoast
 
Bob, that's pretty darn good. If only I new what tools would do what , after posting later on I ran it through photopad image editor and improved it and I'm learning. When I get back down to my cave I'll have a go in Photoshop cs5. SonnyE , It all takes time and doing over and over, in the right conditions and not so good conditions. So, at least you can experience what your data will look like and save it all no matter what. I think I just might be getting better with my po'mans imaging gear. I think you know what I mean, {don't save the" CRUD"} if you can't work with it then toss it !

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Mar 21, 2016 00:15:13   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
Thanks. You are definitely on the right path. Just a little bit of practice and you will be there. When erasing light artifacts from your pic be sure to zoom in enough so you don't erase part of the planet. But if you do, there's always the undo button.
Bob

stepping beyond wrote:
Bob, that's pretty darn good. If only I new what tools would do what , after posting later on I ran it through photopad image editor and improved it and I'm learning. When I get back down to my cave I'll have a go in Photoshop cs5. SonnyE , It all takes time and doing over and over, in the right conditions and not so good conditions. So, at least you can experience what your data will look like and save it all no matter what. I think I just might be getting better with my po'mans imaging gear. I think you know what I mean, {don't save the" CRUD"} if you can't work with it then toss it !
Bob, that's pretty darn good. If only I new what t... (show quote)

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