Portraits
Jan 22, 2016 22:20:45 #
Still working on portrait lighting, practicing with my mannequin. Any thoughts?
Jan 22, 2016 22:24:35 #
Snoot should not create the burn out in the hair.
Reflector does not quite open the shadow.
This being highly subjective the real question is, are you satisfied?
Reflector does not quite open the shadow.
This being highly subjective the real question is, are you satisfied?
Jan 22, 2016 22:32:14 #
Rongnongno wrote:
Snoot should not create the burn out in the hair.
Reflector does not quite open the shadow.
This being highly subjective the real question is, are you satisfied?
Reflector does not quite open the shadow.
This being highly subjective the real question is, are you satisfied?
It was a bare speedlite, no snoot. I like the overall look of the photo. But not happy with the burn out in the hair, did not know how to correct it.
Jan 22, 2016 22:41:48 #
wayne-03 wrote:
It was a bare speedlite, no snoot. I like the overall look of the photo. But not happy with the burn out in the hair, did not know how to correct it.
Nevermind, I did not pay attention: one light only.
A gel fliter on the area that influences the hair should do it to 'locally mask' the light but not block it. The gel density controls how much light goes through and the position where it is applied.
Jan 23, 2016 06:55:27 #
Jan 23, 2016 10:22:25 #
raymondh wrote:
Might the catch lights in the eyes be a bit to low?
Yeah, they look like cartoon flashlight beams.
Jan 23, 2016 10:24:03 #
Rongnongno wrote:
Nevermind, I did not pay attention: one light only.
A gel fliter on the area that influences the hair should do it to 'locally mask' the light but not block it. The gel density controls how much light goes through and the position where it is applied.
A gel fliter on the area that influences the hair should do it to 'locally mask' the light but not block it. The gel density controls how much light goes through and the position where it is applied.
Rosco soft frost material clipped to a frame would do it.
Jan 23, 2016 10:47:07 #
Well. My first question is; why did you light it using the hair lights and reflectors for the main light?
This is backwards.
I'd start by doing the classic lighting patterns; butterfly, rembrandt, using classic light sources; softboxes or umbrellas etc.
You seem to be making it difficult on yourself and as was mentioned; the hair lights are too bright in relation to the main lights.
Do you have a hand held incident meter?
If not, I'd recommend that you get one. It will save a LOT of futzing around and guessing.
With an incident meter and a softbox and one reflector you can get your lights going this quickly:
1.) Set up main light only, very close to the subjects head...just out of camera frame.
2.) Set light to 1/2 power.
3.) Pop the flash at sync speed (pretend 1/125)meter at the subjects cheek facing the flash.
4.) What did the f stop read? (pretend f/5.6 but you want f/4)
5.) Lower the flash power to 1/4 (one stop below 1/2 power)
Now the main light is set up fine, that took all of about 1 minute.
Now set up the reflectors.
1.) Put the reflectors close to the subject but not as close as the main light.
2.) Pop the main light and meter the reflector (shield the incident meter from stray main light with your hand or body). Move the reflector forward or back until you get 1 stop less than f/4 which is f/2.8.
Now do the hair light.
Set up the hair light with a snoot or narrowed down as much as possible.
Meter at the back of the model's head facing the hair light and pop the flash.
You should get something about f/2.0 or so. Less than the fill and certainly less than the main light.
I know that sounds complicated but it really isn't and it's repeatable and understandable.
It's a LOT better than doing it just willy-nilly and guessing.
Once you've done it a half dozen times you will be able to do it in your sleep in 5 minutes because you will be repeating a known pattern.
This is backwards.
I'd start by doing the classic lighting patterns; butterfly, rembrandt, using classic light sources; softboxes or umbrellas etc.
You seem to be making it difficult on yourself and as was mentioned; the hair lights are too bright in relation to the main lights.
Do you have a hand held incident meter?
If not, I'd recommend that you get one. It will save a LOT of futzing around and guessing.
With an incident meter and a softbox and one reflector you can get your lights going this quickly:
1.) Set up main light only, very close to the subjects head...just out of camera frame.
2.) Set light to 1/2 power.
3.) Pop the flash at sync speed (pretend 1/125)meter at the subjects cheek facing the flash.
4.) What did the f stop read? (pretend f/5.6 but you want f/4)
5.) Lower the flash power to 1/4 (one stop below 1/2 power)
Now the main light is set up fine, that took all of about 1 minute.
Now set up the reflectors.
1.) Put the reflectors close to the subject but not as close as the main light.
2.) Pop the main light and meter the reflector (shield the incident meter from stray main light with your hand or body). Move the reflector forward or back until you get 1 stop less than f/4 which is f/2.8.
Now do the hair light.
Set up the hair light with a snoot or narrowed down as much as possible.
Meter at the back of the model's head facing the hair light and pop the flash.
You should get something about f/2.0 or so. Less than the fill and certainly less than the main light.
I know that sounds complicated but it really isn't and it's repeatable and understandable.
It's a LOT better than doing it just willy-nilly and guessing.
Once you've done it a half dozen times you will be able to do it in your sleep in 5 minutes because you will be repeating a known pattern.
Jan 23, 2016 10:52:50 #
raymondh wrote:
Might the catch lights in the eyes be a bit to low?
The one set of "catch lights" are painted on to the eyes of the mannequin.
Jan 23, 2016 10:53:15 #
2 lights are indeed much better, even three but the guy has only one and does get a surprisingly decent result except for one spot.
The onlt thing that disturbs is the cut head. You need a spike and this starts smelling like 1789... I am/was French so... (joking here)
The onlt thing that disturbs is the cut head. You need a spike and this starts smelling like 1789... I am/was French so... (joking here)
Jan 23, 2016 16:41:38 #
Rongnongno wrote:
2 lights are indeed much better, even three but the guy has only one and does get a surprisingly decent result except for one spot.
The onlt thing that disturbs is the cut head. You need a spike and this starts smelling like 1789... I am/was French so... (joking here)
The onlt thing that disturbs is the cut head. You need a spike and this starts smelling like 1789... I am/was French so... (joking here)
Yes !.....I see blood spatter on the left cheek .....probably the guillotine blade was getting blunt ! :XD:
Jan 23, 2016 19:12:36 #
Jan 23, 2016 19:43:29 #
wayne-03 wrote:
Still working on portrait lighting, practicing with my mannequin. Any thoughts?
The lighting is what it is, OK. What you need to learn is
how to use the sliders in Lightroom/Basic.
I can show you what I did to it if you want???
Craig
Jan 23, 2016 21:17:45 #
CraigFair wrote:
The lighting is what it is, OK. What you need to learn is
how to use the sliders in Lightroom/Basic.
I can show you what I did to it if you want???
Craig
how to use the sliders in Lightroom/Basic.
I can show you what I did to it if you want???
Craig
Show me.
Jan 23, 2016 22:03:30 #
wayne-03 wrote:
Show me.
It's all in the eye of the beholder but here's what I did in Lightroom
just using the Sliders in the Basic Column.
It adds to the Shadows and tones down the Whites with a little contrast.
Craig
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